The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Be it man or woman, Darth Courage is our savior...

Well put R_T.

[pate]

Not Sure how Bruce Jenner=David Icke.  Not judgemental, just curious...

hmmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w

Not Sure?

[norland2424]

So why did you PM MV asking for someone to be banned, Art?

[Barfly]

yup but thats why we have the ignore feature tho, and i dont blame MV for not banning free speech.

He banned White Crow, Falkie and others just for being assholes.
This latest is MUCH worse than any of what those have said, im sure they use ad block so its no loss for MV.

[norland2424]

He banned White Crow, Falkie and others just for being assholes.
This latest is MUCH worse than any of what those have said, im sure they use ad block so its no loss for MV.

true but art trying to guilt trip bellgab then threaten MV with legal action is insulting.

[Royal_Tenenbaum]

This site should have the courage to ban Art Bell. The queen is dead. Long live the queen.

[trostol]

true but art trying to guilt trip bellgab then threaten MV with legal action is insulting.

+1

[Royal_Tenenbaum]

true but art trying to guilt trip bellgab then threaten MV with legal action is insulting.

I will always enjoy Art's old shows, but he is a rotten, cowardly, and thin-skinned bitch. I've never heard of a 70 year old man prattle on for decades about how Manny Pardo he is, while being nothing more than a Jake. (Hotline Miami joke)

[malachi.martini]

Since 4chan infested the forum i dont blame him for staying away, i may leave as well, MV does nothing about it. i just put them on ignore.
But its just not fun anymore, to much hate, and im talking REAL hate, thats not my thing.

MV is right to do nothing about it, why play clean up for Art's shitshow? All the love and support from Bellgab over the years, and Art threatens to sue MV over two or three trolls that frequent 4chan? Fuck that noise.

[norland2424]

I will always enjoy Art's old shows, but he is a rotten, cowardly, and thin-skinned bitch. I've never heard of a 70 year old man prattle on for decades about how Manny Pardo he is, while being nothing more than a Jake. (Hotline Miami joke)

ill always enjoy his shows, i just never understood why anyone would think that he was "our" friend.

[Royal_Tenenbaum]

MV is right to do nothing about it, why play clean up for Art's shitshow? All the love and support from Bellgab over the years, and Art threatens to sue MV over two or three trolls that frequent 4chan? Fuck that noise.

Yup. Fuck Art, he is has shown his maturity for ages. We all know what he is. 4chan is correct here. Art prattled on about free speech and standing up to bullies for years, while being a complete hypocrite. Fuck IRL Art. Radio show Art will always be fun, but not the person behind it.

[Royal_Tenenbaum]

ill always enjoy his shows, i just never understood why anyone would think that he was "our" friend.

100% If they though that, they were not listening or reading for decades. All good, I can distinguish the two.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

true but art trying to guilt trip bellgab then threaten MV with legal action is insulting.

I didn't care for that at all, but Art is Art. His spurious comments are what make him an excellent radio host, but don't translate well in business.

[trostol]

and he makes it all worse by constantly saying things about trolls on his FB ..posting pics all over the place of his wife and daughter..just seems..weird

[Barfly]

true but art trying to guilt trip bellgab then threaten MV with legal action is insulting.

It is, however MV should have kicked out the 4channers before it got that bad.
Its up to MV, Art has no legal basis in his argument, we all know that.
My point is i have seen great forums being taken over by 4chan in short order,its what they want.
They bring no revenue, they all use ad block, i believe in free speech but not hate speech, these people
have accused Art of murder, pedophilia , as well as other distasteful things, that should NOT be acceptable on this forum.
Its seems to be fine on 4chan because you are anonymous, it shouldn't be fine here.

[trostol]

this woman made pasta that isnt even finished lol

[Mind Flayer Monk]

"... when you see these things ..."

Or see, or touch, or smell, or sumtheen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Az4uWcQEzA

I've never heard that band before. Thanks for the post.

[norland2424]

and he makes it all worse by constantly saying things about trolls on his FB ..posting pics all over the place of his wife and daughter..just seems..weird

he should have made his profile private to his fam and real life friends.

[trostol]

It is, however MV should have kicked out the 4channers before it got that bad.
Its up to MV, Art has no legal basis in his argument, we all know that.
My point is i have seen great forums being taken over by 4chan in short order,its what they want.
They bring no revenue, they all use ad block, i believe in free speech but not hate speech, these people
have accused Art of murder, pedophilia , as well as other distasteful things, that should NOT be acceptable on this forum.
Its seems to be fine on 4chan because you are anonymous, it shouldn't be fine here.

not taking a side..but did/do you say the same thing when all that hate was directed at Noory?

[norland2424]

It is, however MV should have kicked out the 4channers before it got that bad.
Its up to MV, Art has no legal basis in his argument, we all know that.
My point is i have seen great forums being taken over by 4chan in short order,its what they want.
They bring no revenue, they all use ad block, i believe in free speech but not hate speech, these people
have accused Art of murder, pedophilia , as well as other distasteful things, that should NOT be acceptable on this forum.
Its seems to be fine on 4chan because you are anonymous, it shouldn't be fine here.

the best way to kill trolling is to ignore it, and even tho i dont think Art did any of that hes a grown man that can fight his own battles, not try to shame us all for the words of a few people.

[norland2424]

I didn't care for that at all, but Art is Art. His spurious comments are what make him an excellent radio host, but don't translate well in business.

with all of his flaws set aside he is still one of the best radio hosts in my opinion

[malachi.martini]

I don't think it's a surprise the people most asspained about the fallout on the forum, the ones who threaten to leave, are the ones who defend Heather like it's their job and take critique of her show personally. They'd rather blame MV rather than confront Art's drama craft. There'd be no 4chan 'hate' if Art wasn't a bitch and handled his exit with dignity and respect for all those involved. 

[malachi.martini]

not taking a side..but did/do you say the same thing when all that hate was directed at Noory?

of course not, lol

[trostol]

I don't think it's a surprise the people most asspained about the fallout on the forum, the ones who threaten to leave, are the ones who defend Heather like it's their job and take critique of her show personally. They'd rather blame MV rather than confront Art's drama craft. There'd be no 4chan 'hate' if Art wasn't a bitch and handled his exit with dignity and respect for all those involved.

i've said..and it has calmed down more or less lately..but i had been saying there were assholes on both sides ..the pro Art/Heather side and the Anti side

[trostol]

alright...i'm outta here...night folks

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

It is, however MV should have kicked out the 4channers before it got that bad.
Its up to MV, Art has no legal basis in his argument, we all know that.
My point is i have seen great forums being taken over by 4chan in short order,its what they want.
They bring no revenue, they all use ad block, i believe in free speech but not hate speech, these people
have accused Art of murder, pedophilia , as well as other distasteful things, that should NOT be acceptable on this forum.
Its seems to be fine on 4chan because you are anonymous, it shouldn't be fine here.

What I don't like seeing is the hate spreading to long-time BellGabbers. A certain amount of group-think is inevitable, but you're right about it acting like a cancer. Art isn't helping matters any with his recent posts.
I finished up the unit tests on my first module today so I was able to catch up on some of the threads this afternoon/evening. I think bellboy put it best with just a single word. "  * fuck *  " .   MV has it right though, BellGab itself will determine the direction BellGab takes.  There have been big shake-ups here before.

[norland2424]

alright...i'm outta here...night folks

night dude

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

with all of his flaws set aside he is still one of the best radio hosts in my opinion

I agree, and I'll be damned if I ever pollute my ears with Dave again.  Snoory free since 2006.

[norland2424]

What I don't like seeing is the hate spreading to long-time BellGabbers. A certain amount of group-think is inevitable, but you're right about it acting like a cancer. Art isn't helping matters any with his recent posts.
I finished up the unit tests on my first module today so I was able to catch up on some of the threads this afternoon/evening. I think bellboy put it best with just a single word. "  * fuck *  " .   MV has it right though, BellGab itself will determine the direction BellGab takes.  There have been big shake-ups here before.

bellgab will survive buddy, look at all the topics we have here, once the drama dies down, the trolling will go away too.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

alright...i'm outta here...night folks

Have a good weekend trostol.