MSNBC tax cheats

[bateman]

Do as I say, not as I do.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417275/msnbcs-tour-has-taxman-his-case-jillian-kay-melchior

[Gd5150]

Even funnier, in order for him to have not had standard income tax deductions he must have been a private contractor. Why would MSNBC set up his employment this way? So they don't have to provide "mandatory benefits for full time employees" a law created in the early 90s. Which party shoved this wonderful law trough and thus created the economic and health care disaster we now all enjoy? Hint: it's the same law that's killed well over 40 million full time jobs, and caused health insurance costs to go up 500%. Hint 2: the law passed just after Hillary failed at the democrats 1st major attempt at government enforced health insurance.

So now we not only benefit from a 7 year recession thanks to Obamacare, we now get a gun put to our heads mandating we pay for the 500% increase in insurance costs. Free health care for all is the best! Thanks Dems!

[Eddie Coyle]

   Sharpton, Perry, Toure.

   Nothing will happen to them. Nothing. Greedy careerist tokens who think taxes are for the white sucker who makes 40 grand, not "Talented Tenth" minstrels like themselves. Fuck them and their privilege. Green Bucks Matter.

   

   

[3OctaveFart]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/americans-love-paying-taxes/390582/?utm_source=btn-twitter-control

[albrecht]

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/04/22/report-irs-hung-up-phones-on-more-than-8-million-taxpayers/

[Gd5150]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo#/media/File:Scooby-gang-1969.jpg

[bateman]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/americans-love-paying-taxes/390582/?utm_source=btn-twitter-control

[albrecht]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/americans-love-paying-taxes/390582/?utm_source=btn-twitter-control

This apparent attitude could be due to several things:
-lots of money have a net gain from Federal taxes (if one considers food, housing, medical, etc assistance, various tax credits, free cellphones, etc.)
-the scam of withholding (versus making people cut a check to Uncle Sam quarterly or on tax-day) makes many people not "see" what they are paying and also tricks many to think "hey I'm getting money" with their tax refund (ignoring what they actually paid in and the opportunity costs of having their money withheld.) These people are also the people at home during the day who answer, and have the time, to answer polls.
-they think that the government (via the IRS, NSA, DIA, CIA, FBI, etc etc) are monitoring their response to this poll and also know that the IRS targets people for political opinion.
-relative to some other countries, especially European, our personal income taxes are relatively low (people don't "see" the sales and real estate taxes, often, or how the high corporate tax rate is passed down to them)
-or we are just crazy

[3OctaveFart]

I believe there is greater contempt for those imposing the taxes- a joke of a president and the worst congress in the history of the republic- and not the concept itself.

"As to taxes, they are evidently inseparable from government. It is impossible without them to pay the debts of the nation, to protect it from foreign danger, or to secure individuals from lawless violence and rapine."
      -Alexander Hamilton, 1801
       The godfather of Am. taxation

[albrecht]

I believe there is greater contempt for those imposing the taxes- a joke of a president and the worst congress in the history of the republic- and not the concept itself.

"As to taxes, they are evidently inseparable from government. It is impossible without them to pay the debts of the nation, to protect it from foreign danger, or to secure individuals from lawless violence and rapine."
      -Alexander Hamilton, 1801
       The godfather of Am. taxation

To an extent., the less the better, the more local the better, in my opinion and should be enacted to encourage strength in the country and its economy- not hurt it, and no personal income tax on a Federal level. Also I don't trust that 'bastard brat of a Scottish peddler' and his strong central government views  though admittedly he would be considered a radical these days with regard to the latter, though interestingly some sources claim he is actually genetically very much like this character Obama though that is not 100% verified and could be rumors by detractors at the time.

[3OctaveFart]

Yes, long historical rumours Hamilton had black /and/ Jewish blood.
Also that he was sired by Washington while the latter was in Barbados.
And then there are the whisperings he was homosexual.
Ten-dollar Al enjoyed his Founder Chic at the turn of this century, as well.

[albrecht]

Yes, long historical rumours Hamilton had black /and/ Jewish blood.
Also that he was sired by Washington while the latter was in Barbados.
And then there are the whisperings he was homosexual.
Ten-dollar Al enjoyed his Founder Chic at the turn of this century, as well.

I find fascinating the claims, especially during this Presidency, by politicians (and their handlers) and pundits about the vitriol of the press, conspiracy thinking, dirty politics, partisanship, etc etc when, in actuality, the "good old days" were often far, far worse. I guess it is just the speed and national exposure to said allegations and that history is not really taught much anymore.

[3OctaveFart]

Yeah, I've done some writing on his sex scandal, which dwarfed the Lewinsky affair for sheer acrimony.
It truly had everything- even the star of his own sex scandal publishing a 100-page pamphlet on the sexy times.
One of the most self-loathing documents in American history.

[albrecht]

Yeah, I've done some writing on his sex scandal, which dwarfed the Lewinsky affair for sheer acrimony.
It truly had everything- even the star of his own sex scandal publishing a 100-page pamphlet on the sexy times.
One of the most self-loathing documents in American history.

Any links to your stuff? The Henry Ward Beecher sex scandal also is quite interesting stuff. Just because we seem to think that this kind of thing only happens now and look back on our past as if people then weren't people with the usual lusts and scandals. Or how, in some circumstances, great people/ideas can overcome, in history, what would be assumed career-ending scandals. I guess it is like you don't like to think of your parents having sex (and then later not thinking your kids are.) Or "party" etc. We look at Prohibition now as a ridiculous experiment (and it was) but also don't realize how much people drank back in the day (and drank even more during our earliest days. And drugs.) Nothing is, really, new except I guess with technology it is possible for "vices" to be distributed easier and for nothing to ever disappear. I shudder at kids now that everything they do is recorded (often by them) for posterity.

[3OctaveFart]

Consider the first partisan newspaper was kickstarted by Jefferson and Madison.
Tantamount to them launching an MSNBC, Fox or Current TV today.
Only it was meaner then, as there was more at stake.
The 1790s were a shitshow.