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Why is Noory's job so safe?

Started by henge0stone, March 16, 2015, 02:00:21 PM

henge0stone

I'm not as big a Noory hater as some others but after all these years and of crappy performances on the air why isn't Clear Channel thinking about replacing him? I mean C2C has only lost listeners since Art left and the show is so stale, why not bring in some new blood? If they ever listened they would see how Noory is basically just browsing his computer while a guest is on. Once in a while there will be a fun guest but its all on the guest Noory adds nothing to the show.

bateman

He comes cheap and doesn't rock the boat.

ManiacMatt

I don't hate Noory, but he does annoy me.  I bet they keep him because he does whatever they want.  He doesn't demand a lot and he is a compliant employee.  I feel like he was given a Ferrari and he treats it like an old, rusty lawn mower.

Morgus

Quote from: bateman on March 16, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
He comes cheap and doesn't rock the boat.
yep he is the ultimate 'company yes man' so PremRat loves that.
Noory claims he now has a very long term network contract that will keep him hosting c2cam until man lands on the planet Mars...  :o

cweb

Noory knows the true location of the Jade Monkey.

wr250

because clearchannel (and its subsidiary premrat) would rather build expensive studios and mist tunnels while hemorrhaging money they dont have, rather than employing new fresh talent.
i think  the only thing holding them together is rush limbaugh .

albrecht

Whilst the Peter Principle or simple toadying might explain it I sometimes wonder if he has a few incriminating polaroids of something that happened in the mist tunnel that might embarrass some executive managers. That or he has mob connections and people are "leaned on" when they rightfully look at the numbers and ask in corporate meetings "why is this guy still on the job?"

DanTSX

Quote from: albrecht on March 17, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
Whilst the Peter Principle or simple toadying might explain it I sometimes wonder if he has a few incriminating polaroids of something that happened in the mist tunnel that might embarrass some executive managers. That or he has mob connections and people are "leaned on" when they rightfully look at the numbers and ask in corporate meetings "why is this guy still on the job?"

Nooron doesn't have any juice.  He's an overnight host from St Louis.  He had a Lebanese eatery and a video production company and thats it.  Small time.   Dave does talk a decent game when he's not on the air (which makes zero sense) and he's probably just clever enough to keep all of these guys happy.

The problem is a lot of their executives are as dumb and blind to the condition of the show as Dave.  They are all out there for themselves and could probably get away with anything with dopey Dave holding down a ton of stations in their marketing strategy.

But it is clear that they are screening new hosts with all the new weekend heads they bring in.

DanTSX

Quote from: bateman on March 16, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
He comes cheap and doesn't rock the boat.

I bet he makes more than you think.

But you are right, he is not one to rock the boat.

RedMichael

He is a cheap "yes man". I also think if he feels there is any kind of threat to his show he will focus on the threat moreso than improve his show (telling guests it is either one show or the other, having that guy on that accused Art of some heinous shit all of a sudden when he was banned from C2C up to Dark Matter...which got people talking about the subject all over again. I think he pulled JC close to: either disrupt the dark matter network/hurt Art/diffuse any momentum JC had). I actually don't remember if JC was on the DMN.

By doing  all of those things I listed, he has made himself the only safe, dependable choice. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he encouraged Ian Punnet to take time off or even retire due to him "Caring about his well being...pain in the ears? OUUUCH".

John B Wells is a tool with no talent but Noory sure liked him until he became a competitor. I also feel that he probably hindered JBW from getting more airtime and just did more shows even though the quality suffers from it.

ACE of CLUBS

Quote from: bateman on March 16, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
He comes cheap and doesn't rock the boat.

It's like the promotion the daytime clerk at the 'Seven-Eleven' gets ....... promoted to 'Night Manager' ...... he's the only one there.

b_dubb

No one wants it. How bored would you be if you had to talk to those hacks and charlatans and frauds every night?

SnapT

My theory is that he uses the power of affirmations, which he learned about by reading all the way to the end of THE DILBERT FUTURE.

Gassy Man

There are lots of reasons why someone like Noory and Noory specifically can rise to and stay at the level he has attained:

1)  The Peter Principle, which holds that "the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and managers rise to the level of their incompetence."  Noory is the living embodiment of the Peter Principle and all that it connotes.

2)  The modern age we live in.  While profits continue to soar, artistic integrity continues to decline.  Anyone with even a modicum of genuine talent is quickly ushered away and replaced with the sort of plasticky, interchangeable personality represented by corporate broadcasting.  Noory, in particular, fits the bill, as his banal, unengaged, error-ridden, and intellectually-vapid approach appeals to the lowest common denominator.

3)  The AM dial is generally a collective of twits, goofs, wonks, turds, and sycophants whose only real goal is to tow a line that leads to lucrative book and public speaking engagements.  Someone of Noory's caliber lacks the wherewithal to find the real money, so he languishes in the bargain basement of such.

4)  No one has offered anything to compete with the crapfest that is now Coast to Coast.  With Art Bell's show's demise, there is sadly nothing even remotely on par with Coast to Coast as a brand, nor does there appear to be any competitor in the offing.  Until that happens, a dumbbell like Noory can continue to do pretty much anything he wants without fear of any significant change.

5)  We as disgruntled listeners don't do enough to let the powers that be know how dissatisfied we are.  Now, by that, I don't mean this Website, which is often more entertaining than the actual show, nor do I mean the drooling, knuckle-dragging suits and bean counters that make up the Coast to Coast corporate family of incompetent numbskulls.  I mean we don't communicate our disdain to the show's dubious collective of sponsors by telling them, for instance, that we will simply not purchase their products, no matter how many times they are advertised on Coast to Coast, so long as the suckage continues.  That is really the only way to get someone like Noory deposed because no one there cares beyond the dollars what's on so long as people are listening.  However, if people are listening but not buying the products -- and more importantly, going out of their way not to buy the products -- then there would be someone's attention captured . . . especially if the same folks were telling others to avoid purchasing the products. 

Nick el Ass

I'm convinced Dave has sucked off the Devil, and that is why he is in the position he is in. The master of suck.

Yorkshire pud

... because people who continue to say they don't like him continue to listen to him. Turn him off and the sponsors lose money...and remove the money. Noory is fired. Because that isn't happening, the sponsors (rightly) see a successful show.

It really is that simple.

Nick el Ass

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on March 17, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
... because people who continue to say they don't like him continue to listen to him. Turn him off and the sponsors lose money...and remove the money. Noory is fired. Because that isn't happening, the sponsors (rightly) see a successful show.

It really is that simple.


I'm going Noorie free from this point on. It is clear they can't get any new guests, and are struggling mightily to fill the allotted time. It was good for shits and giggles, but old Art shows are fantastic... and ther eis a lot of catching up to do as July gets near.

Gassy Man

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on March 17, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
... because people who continue to say they don't like him continue to listen to him. Turn him off and the sponsors lose money...and remove the money. Noory is fired. Because that isn't happening, the sponsors (rightly) see a successful show.

It really is that simple.
Not really.  Noory's ratings have been in decline for years.  It's not an issue of who's listening but of who's buying the products.  Should those numbers go into decline, then there might be some pressure to remove Noory.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gassy Man on March 17, 2015, 11:39:04 PM
Not really.  Noory's ratings have been in decline for years.  It's not an issue of who's listening but of who's buying the products.  Should those numbers go into decline, then there might be some pressure to remove Noory.

How could anyone know about a produc t if they hadn't heard about it? His show is a mouthpiece for selling products.

The show starts at 10pm local PremRat time.

I wonder how many of those climbing the corporate ladder there have ever even personally listened to the show.  Of those how many were truly interested in the topic(s).  And of those, how many listened long enough to realize the flubs, lack of preparation, awful interviewing skills, etc, are constant. 

People have to listen to several shows to really experience the suckage.  It helps if they are interested in the subject matter, and are off put when the interview is ruined.


Right George?

Heather Wade

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on March 17, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
... because people who continue to say they don't like him continue to listen to him. Turn him off and the sponsors lose money...and remove the money. Noory is fired. Because that isn't happening, the sponsors (rightly) see a successful show.

It really is that simple.

Better this way for the sanity too.  I've got plenty of old Art shows if I want to hear quality radio. 
They say 90% is showing up.  Maybe that's why Nooron's still on the air, the dumbass shows up every damn night.

bateman

Quote from: (Redacted) on March 18, 2015, 12:15:59 AM
Better this way for the sanity too.  I've got plenty of old Art shows if I want to hear quality radio. 
They say 90% is showing up.  Maybe that's why Nooron's still on the air, the dumbass shows up every damn night.

Too much of a hassle to change the locks too.

Nick el Ass

Quote from: bateman on March 18, 2015, 12:31:55 AM
Too much of a hassle to change the locks too.

I imagine Tommy and Dave are like Doogie Howser and Vinnie only much dumber, and each night Dave just shows up at the studio... and climbs in through the window. My guess is that he lost his keys long ago.

PathoJen

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on March 17, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
... because people who continue to say they don't like him continue to listen to him. Turn him off and the sponsors lose money...and remove the money. Noory is fired. Because that isn't happening, the sponsors (rightly) see a successful show.

It really is that simple.
No one is willing to turn him off because there is nothing else on the radio at that hour of the night. I fall asleep listening to the radio. That's how I found Art Bell, channel surfing for something interesting to doze off to. Although, as soon as I found Art I stopped sleeping.

Juan Cena

Quote from: Gassy Man on March 17, 2015, 10:53:39 PM


4)  No one has offered anything to compete with the crapfest that is now Coast to Coast.  With Art Bell's show's demise, there is sadly nothing even remotely on par with Coast to Coast as a brand, nor does there appear to be any competitor in the offing.  Until that happens, a dumbbell like Noory can continue to do pretty much anything he wants without fear of any significant change.



This is probably the most probable reason. Outside of the trucker shows and the sports-talk, there really is no direct nationwide competition for C2C.

Gassy Man

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on March 17, 2015, 11:53:56 PM
How could anyone know about a produc t if they hadn't heard about it? His show is a mouthpiece for selling products.
The ratings only establish advertising rates -- theoretically, the higher the ratings, the more can be charged for advertising.   But no one cares if the products aren't selling.  That's why some companies will stop advertising on highly-rated programs.   What companies care about are sales and migrations of customers away from their products  -- think about boycotts (or threat of them) against various TV shows in the past or how some companies have decided to stop advertising with a program when some controversy about it gets too popular.  Whether Coast to Coast is doing great in the ratings or not, a company that is told "We're boycotting your products" or "we won't buy your products if you advertise on" feels pressure to consider whether to support that program anymore, especially if the people contacting them are part of the intended market.

Gassy Man

Quote from: Juan Cena on March 18, 2015, 08:29:46 PM
This is probably the most probable reason. Outside of the trucker shows and the sports-talk, there really is no direct nationwide competition for C2C.
I'd agree, though I do think that we as the audience are rather complacent in our acceptance of garbage.   

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PathoJen on March 18, 2015, 07:45:12 AM
No one is willing to turn him off because there is nothing else on the radio at that hour of the night. I fall asleep listening to the radio. That's how I found Art Bell, channel surfing for something interesting to doze off to. Although, as soon as I found Art I stopped sleeping.

Find BBC Iplayer on the net. Click radio and listen to the stations. Give it a try. Different things on different stations on different days. :)

Quote from: bateman on March 16, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
He comes cheap and doesn't rock the boat.

He's also reliable which for whatever reason is something Art has not seemed to master yet.  The only time Jorch wasn't able to host his regularly scheduled show in recent years was when he swallowed the Pizza Roll. I don't count the Fridays he's not there since he preplans those so he can use up his year's worth of vacation days. I'd be taking my vacation and going all over the world but not our Jorch. What a bore.

Corona Kitty

Quote from: Juan Cena on March 18, 2015, 08:29:46 PM
This is probably the most probable reason. Outside of the trucker shows and the sports-talk, there really is no direct nationwide competition for C2C.


Funny how Juan Cena posts here.... just when i was about to say, Noory is coast to coasts version of john cena.

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