Christian VS Muslim

[paladin1991]

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Just found this thread.  Looks like all the cool kids wear black.

[paladin1991]

.....'anyone what aints like musself' goes more towards validating my points than I ever could.

Musself?  Musself ali bendover?  Friggin' mooslime name.

[albrecht]

Just found this thread.  Looks like all the cool kids wear black.

Won't it be hilarious when terrorists happen upon a fashion magazine and learn that "pink is the new black" and start wearing pink Muslim garb or pink balaclavas? And it also makes me wonder: how did the KKK miss out on black being the "in" color for terroristic groups?

[WildCard]

Just found this thread.  Looks like all the cool kids wear black.

shyeah!


A lifetime ago some kid asked if I was a "goth". I didn't know what a goth was.

Won't it be hilarious when terrorists happen upon a fashion magazine and learn that "pink is the new black" and start wearing pink Muslim garb or pink balaclavas?

And it also makes me wonder: how did the KKK miss out on black being the "in" color for terroristic groups?

Oh, no shit! Don't get me wrong, I love white but those robes were impossible to keep clean.

[paladin1991]

We saw in Yugoslavia what happens when 'Freedomâ,,¢' comes to a place where 'Freedomâ,,¢' has no right to be dicking around. As much as the totalitarian regime of Communism was... 'shit', for want of a better word... totalitarianism did have the positive effect of stopping diverse religious groups from murdering each other like rabid animals.


10 years of civil war (read as religious genocide) where the Serbs decided to kickstart their entire reason for being in the Balkans in the first place (killing Muslims) and you have all the 'Freedomâ,,¢' you need to have tens of thousands of innocent men, women, and children slaughtered on a scale not seen in Europe since the impressively dressed but psychologically imbalanced NAZIs had their day in the sun circa the late 30s early 40s.


It is to Europe's eternal shame that it took the United States to step in and put a stop to the madness that was, by every conceivable metric, Europe's duty to resolve.

Well that's a no shitter.  Too bad the Euros are so slow to do what's right.  They have to be chased, cajoled, and called out on their manhood to even begin to look to getting out of their barracks. They have grown too dependent on us.  Well, except for the french, their shit is weak, plain and simple.

[albrecht]

Well that's a no shitter.  Too bad the Euros are so slow to do what's right.  They have to be chased, cajoled, and called out on their manhood to even begin to look to getting out of their barracks. They have grown too dependent on us.  Well, except for the french, their shit is weak, plain and simple.

1) Could it be that much of Europe was prescient? Look at the problems the Muslims are causing them now? The Balkan area has always been a bulwark on stopping Islam from Europe's borders. And always a crazy, violent place. Granted the killing methods on both sides was bad and no sane people want genocide, but that's what sometimes happens in religious wars (and just look at how those peaceful Muslims treat each other or better yet religious minorities in their new "Islamic State" region or how even "modern" Islamic states like Turkey treated the Christian Armenians (and Grecians, and other minorities back when?)

2) The Muslims we gave Kosovo to and increased sex slavery rings, organ trafficking, arms trafficking, terrorism, and drug running all across Europe and also help now in the terrorism in the Levant, Iraq, and against Russia (we don't mind that last part too much.) They still burn churches and attack people there in the Balkans also, by the way. But that is ok.

3) Why bomb the Chinese Embassy? It was not enough to come to a Mexican stand-off with Russian at the airport later over some Muslims but we had to bomb the Chinese also? Yeah, the CIA and NATO "didn't know where an EMBASSY is?"

4) French do ok, sometimes, but are OK in special forces and subversive stuff:  like in their African machinations, bombing Greenpeace vessels, or participation in right-wing coups. They do tend to get caught though even in those. As a military force in conventional wars they have certainly seen their day many decades ago.

[WildCard]

1) Could it be that much of Europe was prescient? Look at the problems the Muslims are causing them now? The Balkan area has always been a bulwark on stopping Islam from Europe's borders. And always a crazy, violent place. Granted the killing methods on both sides was bad and no sane people want genocide, but that's what sometimes happens in religious wars (and just look at how those peaceful Muslims treat each other or better yet religious minorities in their new "Islamic State" region or how even "modern" Islamic states like Turkey treated the Christian Armenians (and Grecians, and other minorities back when?)

2) The Muslims we gave Kosovo to and increased sex slavery rings, organ trafficking, arms trafficking, terrorism, and drug running all across Europe and also help now in the terrorism in the Levant, Iraq, and against Russia (we don't mind that last part too much.) They still burn churches and attack people there in the Balkans also, by the way. But that is ok.

Is Islam a bad religion? As much Christian bashing as we do, that's a fair question.

3) Why bomb the Chinese Embassy? It was not enough to come to a Mexican stand-off with Russian at the airport later over some Muslims but we had to bomb the Chinese also? Yeah, the CIA and NATO "didn't know where an EMBASSY is?"

LMAO!


But, why not? I can't think of a more deserving county, (South Korea but they're small potatoes).
That may be the coolest thing our war machine's done in a long time. If we can just say, "whoops",  and get away with it, that's awesome!
Could we do that again? We can't afford to piss off our bank. Who else will loan us money?

[albrecht]

Is Islam a bad religion? As much Christian bashing as we do, that's a fair question.

 
LMAO!


But, why not? I can't think of a more deserving county, (South Korea but they're small potatoes).
That may be the coolest thing our war machine's done in a long time. If we can just say, "whoops",  and get away with it, that's awesome!
Could we do that again? We can't afford to piss off our bank. Who else will loan us money?

Not so much loan, as it won't ever really be paid off, more like a the mafia loan-shark.

Having said that I've heard "old guys" for decades still proclaiming "we shoulda gone into China" during Korea. One wonders if the US acted like real "Imperial Countries" people claim we are what would've happened if we, and our allies, took on the Chinese then or at least supported or on-again/off-again friendemy (or whatever girls call it) the Kuomintang right after WWII (or during better)? Speaking of that what if we also took on the Soviets right after WWII in force? Maybe even brought back in some of the White Russians to reassert control (not in a Czarship though? Or broken up on ethnic lines and destroyed their power for some time?)  And what if not let, and pay, for Japan, Germany etc rebuild but took them over (or ceded them to allies?) None of them had nukes then. But LOTSA people and fighters...but also worn down, bad economy, regional civil wars or near-so, and crippled economies and agriculture and decimated youthful fighters (where we still had them.) Maybe we really could've had a "new American Century" as some pine for.....?

[WildCard]

Japan, Germany

Didn't we beat them?


Why do they get to have a better economy than ours?!


And everything that flows from that - education, infrastructure, ~

[WildCard]

Stunning to see this knowledge on Bellgab!

Seconded.
The knock-out blow was the last chapter. That made my blood boil.

Yes that's correct, as far as it goes.  I don't really know where the terms 'right' and 'left' came from but I doubt they mean the same things now as they did back when The West was a collection of Monarchies that mostly reported to the Vatican. 

The Enlightenment was the period after the Dark Ages when such things as reason, science, and art took hold.  Intellectuals and philosophers became influential.  Discussion of social reform centered around science, tolerance (such as accepting those of differing religions), and the importance of The Individual - as opposed to the desires of Authority (the King and the Church),

An important aspect of that were ideas regarding how people would be best governed.  The ideas of people like John Locke (consent of the governed), Hobbes (the social contract).  The idea that rights are 'God-given' natural rights, and not given or to be withheld by a government. 

There were others who contributed to these ideas - Francis Bacon, Edmund Burke, Montesquieu (separation of powers) and so on.  It really started with the Magna Carta, but it was during the Enlightenment that these ideas flourished.

Our own Founders, everyone from Thomas Paine, to Ben Franklin, to Hamilton, Jefferson, and Madison, among others, drew from these people, built on their ideas, riffed off of each other, to write our Founding Documents - the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution - and to implement them.

Adam Smith wrote 'The Wealth of Nations'.  The book didn't create a new economic system, it explained what worked and why.  It showed that what was thought to be the best system - mercantilism and storing gold in the kings castle - wasn't the bet way to measure the wealth of a nation.  Industry and trade were.


(Unlike Marx' ideas 100 years later, which instead of describing the reality of economic activity the way Smith did, described the way he thought things should be, and how he believed things would turn out at some point in the future)

We're still on the same page.



This, on the other hand -

It is the Conservatives who are the true intellectual descendants of all this.  Of the Enlightenment and of the Founding Fathers.  It is the Conservatives that are the true classical liberals.




Ever since the Enlightenment, and the founding of democracy, there have been those who opposed it.  Those who believe in an authoritarian system have fought those who believe in self rule ever since the idea of individual liberty was first proposed. 


The modern left has claimed to be liberal, but they are not.  They claim to be 'progressive', but they are not.  They are the intellectual descendants of Marx.  They know they need a vast powerful authoritarian government in order to implement their ideas, to force them on the rest of us.  They must reject the idea that the rights of the individual supersede the interests of government.  They are intolerant of ideas other than their own.  They must eliminate opposition.  They reject reason, intellectualism, and science, and are only interested in ideology. 


Of course all that is carefully hidden, and they claim the opposite.  Not only do they claim to be the enlightened tolerant ones, they accuse those who don't agree with them of being what they themselves are - intolerant, etc.


They use our open society and our liberty against us.  They exploit or weaknesses and use them against us.  They lie about our history and attempt to re-write it.  They mis-educate our kids.  They try to divide us - by race, ethnicity, gender, income levels, anywhere they can drive a wedge.  They create false and unimportant issues to divide us with.  They have infiltrated and gained control of many of our institutions, and turned them into Left-wing organizations and front groups - everything from environmental groups, to civil liberties groups, to our universities, to media organizations, to local governments, to our judicial system, to our unions, to Hollywood.  On and on.

I might unpack some of this before I die of old-age.


Yeah, Hollywood leans left. We disagree about whether that a bad thing but whatever.


The unions? I've always assumed mobsters voted Republican but, I don't know.


This is too much like real work. Ima look at funny pictures.

[Avi]

I mean, if someone can explain where I'm wrong then have at it.


Protestant fanatics (UVF)





Catholic fanatics (IRA)





Islamic fanatics (ISIS)

http://www.thetower.org/article/on-the-false-parallel-between-gaza-and-northern-ireland/

[Mind Flayer Monk]

http://www.thetower.org/article/on-the-false-parallel-between-gaza-and-northern-ireland/

From the article:

Indeed, the British mandarin class to which men like Jonathan Powell belong has never been keen to talk about the amount of blood it has on its hands from various colonial and post-colonial conflicts.

[albrecht]

From the article:

I'm waiting for the day in which columnists, and pundits are called to account for their racism when they use terms like "Mandarins" and "Brahmins" in their articles. Where are the usual politically-correct  demanding leftist's shocktroops when a pundit or columnist uses these terms on NPR, NYT, etc?

[PB the Deplorable]

... This, on the other hand - I might unpack some of this before I die of old-age...

Well, you did ask.  And before you unpack too much, consider:


Who is it always clamoring to disarm us?  In violation of the 2nd Amendment

Who has built and champions this massive unresponsive intrusive government, as opposed to our formerly small representative republic?  In violation of the Tenth Amendment and exceeding those functions specifically delegated to the Federal government in Articles I and II.

Who is always clamoring for more taxes, more handouts, more socialism?  Most of it again nowhere authorized in those functions delegated to the Federal government

Who no longer teaches our history - other than only negative topics like slavery and how the Indians were treated? 

Who has taken control of our schools from parents, teachers, and the local communities, and given it to state and federal educrat bureaucracies?

Who is intolerant of Christians, and marches in 'protests' alongside those carrying anti-Semitic signs?  In conflict with freedom of religion sentiment in the First Amendment?

Speaking of 'protests', who is it that uses mob rule to push their agenda?  Whatever happened to 'peaceful assembly'?

Who is it that supports criminals and attacks police?

Speaking of the First Amendment, who has defined Free Speech into all sorts of things that aren't really speech, yet has also imposed speech codes in order to quash speech they don't like?  Who disrupts lectures on campuses and other venues of speakers they don't like?  Who relentlessly attacks Fox News and Talk Radio, while ignoring that the rest of Big Media is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party?

Who appoints the judges that usurp the Ninth Amendment by claiming jurisdiction over rights 'retained by the people' - i.e. issues that belong to the State Legislatures and not to the judiciary or to the Federal government at all?  Issues like abortion, guns, 'gay marriage', certain property rights, and policing of certain activity come to mind but there is much more.

Who - all in 1913 - established the Income Tax (XVI Amendment), the Federal Reserve Bank, and removed the State's check on Federal growth and power by changing the way Senators gained office (XVII Amendment)?  (Originally each state legislature appointed 2 Senators to represent them in DC).  Getting states objections out of the way, creating the new massive taxing power, and handing our monetary system over to the banks cleared the way for huge Federal government growth and increase in power

Who is it that constantly chips away at our liberty, right down to what kind of grocery bags we can have and what shower heads and light bulbs we can buy?

Who is it that stole people's healthcare and sent our medical care system into turmoil?

Who is it right now ruling by decree, ignoring court rulings, ignoring laws he doesn't like, thumbing his nose at the Constitutional  limits to his office, thumbing his nose at separation of powers, trying to 'fundamentally change' the country? 


And who is it that honors, respects and values our nation and our history, and who are fighting FOR our Constitution, and for a return to our original principles - small limited government with low taxes, the right to the fruits of our labor, property rights, and the right of free exchange, the rule of law, personal responsibility, and opportunity for everyone?

Yes, it's the Conservatives who are the direct political descendants of The Enlightenment and our Founders, and it's the Left that is not only in favor of all this destruction, but leading the way.

That's a start.  I could 'unpack' plenty more if desired.

[WildCard]

the fairy tale actually makes peace less likely by recommending capitulation to terrorism rather than a determined and patient fight against it. In fact, that determined fight was the only thing that ultimately brought the IRA to the negotiating table.

http://www.thetower.org/article/on-the-false-parallel-between-gaza-and-northern-ireland/

Outstanding article.

[WildCard]

Well, you did ask. 

I'm not complaining. You've got skills. Get the mark to agree with you three or four times, embed your (imo) b.s., then wrap it it all up in a pretty bow - "Free Cuba!"

[WildCard]

Hi new guy. "Christian VS Muslim" has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

The media tells me, Islam is bad. Is it even possible to lie 100% of the time?

I know a little bit about Right-Wing Christianity. Now, that's some bad religion.

What does Damien call them? The Masonic Order of the Shia Southern Baptist's, or some such.
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[PB the Deplorable]

I'm not complaining. You've got skills...

What I have are observations

[Kelt]

Well that's a no shitter.  Too bad the Euros are so slow to do what's right.  They have to be chased, cajoled, and called out on their manhood to even begin to look to getting out of their barracks. They have grown too dependent on us.  Well, except for the french, their shit is weak, plain and simple.

lol

[Yorkshire pud]

Well that's a no shitter.  Too bad the Euros are so slow to do what's right.  They have to be chased, cajoled, and called out on their manhood to even begin to look to getting out of their barracks. They have grown too dependent on us.  Well, except for the french, their shit is weak, plain and simple.

Well sort of. The British army and Air Force were in there; I know a bloke who was, rescued an orphanage full of kids (Muslims) who'd had it set on fire by the Serbs. Oh, and there's the massacre at Srebrenica; estimates over 8000 Muslims murdered.

And as for waiting for the Americans? It would be fucking good if they didn't turn up spreading freedom, they just fuck it up for everyone after they've left, for years afterwards. Why do you vote for these twats?

[Zoo]

Well sort of. The British army and Air Force were in there; I know a bloke who was, rescued an orphanage full of kids (Muslims) who'd had it set on fire by the Serbs. Oh, and there's the massacre at Srebrenica; estimates over 8000 Muslims murdered.

And as for waiting for the Americans? It would be fucking good if they didn't turn up spreading freedom, they just fuck it up for everyone after they've left, for years afterwards. Why do you vote for these twats?

Because they are Christians... We have been dumbed down so much we can hardly tie our own shoes anymore. All we know how to do is get up and go to work like are masters have taught us. We have no opinions besides the local sports team or who did that thing on TV last night. Welcome to my nightmare!!1

[aldousburbank]

I have been dumbed down so much I can hardly tie my own shoes anymore. All I know how to do is get up and go to work like my masters have taught me. I have no opinions besides the local sports team or who did that thing on TV last night. Welcome to my nightmare!!1

I have made a few changes for purposes of spelling correction and accuracy.

[Zoo]

I have made a few changes for purposes of spelling correction and accuracy.

Well thank you so very much for looking out for me!!1

[Quick Karl]

Pakistan School Attack: Taliban Militants Kill 126 in Peshawar, Take Hostages

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pakistan-school-attack-taliban-militants-kill-126-peshawar-take-hostages-n269011

The peaceful religion of Islam...

[aldousburbank]

Yeah well, regardless of the particular color of their holy robes or flags, sickos are sickos and torture is a pervesion of the gift of life. My faith in God still manages to supersede my disgust with His followers.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

[Quick Karl]

Yeah well, regardless of the particular color of their holy robes or flags, sickos are sickos and torture is a pervesion of the gift of life. My faith in God still manages to supersede my disgust with His followers.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

You are one smart motherfucker, Sir.

[aldousburbank]

Well, not smart enough to stay off of this stupid forum sir.

[albrecht]

Pakistan School Attack: Taliban Militants Kill 126 in Peshawar, Take Hostages

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pakistan-school-attack-taliban-militants-kill-126-peshawar-take-hostages-n269011

The peaceful religion of Islam...

The thing about Muslims is that no matter how badly they treat Jews, Christians, and kaffirs (as they call them) their internal feuds and sectarianism makes them treat each other even worse. Horrible stuff but I would rather they fight and slaughter each other than them moving to our countries and committing their "peaceful" antics here. Obviously, no violence would be optimal but that won't happen with Muslims unless, maybe, they have some kind of reformation and solve (or at least recognize the various sects), modernity, economic improvements, and we stop selling them guns and buying their oil from corrupt "sheiks" and "kings."

[aldousburbank]

The thing about Muslims is that no matter how badly they treat Jews, Christians, and kaffirs (as they call them) their internal feuds and sectarianism makes them treat each other even worse. Horrible stuff but I would rather they fight and slaughter each other than them moving to our countries and committing their "peaceful" antics here. Obviously, no violence would be optimal but that won't happen with Muslims unless, maybe, they have some kind of reformation and solve (or at least recognize the various sects), modernity, economic improvements, and we stop selling them guns and buying their oil from corrupt "sheiks" and "kings."

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[Yorkshire pud]

The thing about SOME Muslims is that no matter how badly they treat Jews, Christians, and kaffirs (as they call them) their internal feuds and sectarianism makes SOME OF THEM treat each other even worse. Horrible stuff but I would rather they fight and slaughter each other than them moving to our countries and committing their "peaceful" antics here. Obviously, no violence would be optimal but that won't happen with SOME Muslims unless, maybe, they have some kind of reformation and solve (or at least recognize the various sects), modernity, economic improvements, and we stop selling them guns and buying their oil from corrupt "sheiks" and "kings."

FIFY