Ukraine: Putin boasts about his nukes

[Bart Ell]

I just purchased 2,000 more rounds of 5.56 this week. Up to 10K of 5.56 now...

I bought peaches.
Lots of peaches.
I got some Redhavens and some Baby Golds.
You can freeze a whole peach and then enjoy it later in the year when you can get fresh local peaches.
You can only eat a bullet once but you can have as many peaches as you like!

[Quick Karl]

Wherever you begin bombing by nukes, at the end of the started chain reaction, you self perhaps will be the only man in world, if you even survive that. Do you like this idea?

Bad people do not understand good-faith negotiation -- this forum should be proof enough of that, and World History should hammer it home.

The only thing bad people comprehend is death. We should dole it out without prejudice until the bad people in the world, are dead, or too afraid to do anything.

If we had a President with a spine and some actually real-world experience and wisdom, the problem would already have been being solved, but so long as we have a country wherein psychotics are given a voice in politics for the benefit of the power-grabs of their political leaders, you, and the rest of the world, are just going to have to absorb Islamic horrors.

The ONLY time a dent will ever be made in this problem, is when a God-fearing conservative American political leader gets elected - short of that, civilians and journalists necks are just internet video entertainment for the guilty voters.

[Quick Karl]

I bought peaches.
Lots of peaches.
I got some Redhavens and some Baby Golds.
You can freeze a whole peach and then enjoy it later in the year when you can get fresh local peaches.
You can only eat a bullet once but you can have as many peaches as you like!

Can you really freeze a peach?

I don't need to freeze my ammo and it will still be good-to-go...

[Bart Ell]

Can you really freeze a peach?

I don't need to freeze my ammo and it will still be good-to-go...

Indeed.
Let me know how that unfrozen ammo tastes... if you can.

[West of the Rockies]

Yes, peaches can be frozen (typically in halves or slices).  No need to freeze ammo, but bullets aren't very tasty or nutritional.  Maybe with a little Parmesan and basil?  Of course, you have to be wicked good with a slingshot and peaches to take on a home intruder!

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

Especially with a sissified command structure wherein anyone LOYAL to the constitution and/or opposed to obuttfuck has been fired.

God I can't wait for the revolution - I just purchased 2,000 more rounds of 5.56 this week. Up to 10K of 5.56 now...

I have to translate a little bit.. first what means "obuttfuck"? I think the second sentence indicates, that you are not interested, as long as you make deals of that breaking success, is it? Or do you mean something completely else.... thx

[Quick Karl]

Yes, peaches can be frozen (typically in halves or slices).  No need to freeze ammo, but bullets aren't very tasty or nutritional.  Maybe with a little Parmesan and basil?  Of course, you have to be wicked good with a slingshot and peaches to take on a home intruder!

Venison doesn't taste too bad but you can't kill a deer with a peach.

[Quick Karl]

I have to translate a little bit.. first what means "obuttfuck"? I think the second sentence indicates, that you are not interested, as long as you make deals of that breaking success, is it? Or do you mean something completely else.... thx

Sorry Rudolph, I was condescending Obama (obuttfuck = what a fuck up).

For all of history, only the strong have been able to stop the wicked - the weak complainers hide behind the strong then try to take credit for the deeds of the strong.

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

The only thing bad people comprehend is death.

That`s exact my opinion, and to neutralize somebody for me means not only to get hold of him, and that works totally without nukes....

[Bart Ell]

you can't kill a deer with a peach.

Wouldn't need to.
Already got my food.
Peaches!
http://heavenlyhomemakers.com/you-can-freeze-a-whole-peach

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

Wouldn't need to.
Already got my food.
Peaches!
http://heavenlyhomemakers.com/you-can-freeze-a-whole-peach

Don´t forget your hopefully not freezed bullets, they could go reverse, because of ice contamination....

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

Sorry Rudolph, I was condescending Obama (obuttfuck = what a fuck up).

For all of history, only the strong have been able to stop the wicked - the weak complainers hide behind the strong then try to take credit for the deeds of the strong.

Especially the weak complainers are dangerous inclining to prematurely pressing the button...

[WOTR]

Wherever you begin bombing by nukes, at the end of the started chain reaction, you self perhaps will be the only man in world, if you even survive that. Do you like this idea?

Honestly... Did you read the whole post and think that there was no sarcasm?  I believe I suggested nuking Switzerland at one point over taxes...  You thought that I was serious when I suggested that the world devoid of anybody but Americans would be a "golden age" and missed the point about strife still existing between left and right?

Anyhow, to add to my previous thoughts- I now believe that anybody who was passionate enough to have voted for any party in the last election should be incinerated in the name of world peace as well.  Eventually there will be no strife, no friction and no war in the world.  Unlike your suggestion that I may be the last one left in the world, I am confident that there will be a core group of at least 50 of us left at the end who share views close enough that none needs to be "dispatched."  Unless, of course, one of them likes the colour red... then it is "Goodbye Billy" and we are down to 49 (and concubines...)

[WOTR]

I bought peaches.
Lots of peaches.
I got some Redhavens and some Baby Golds.
You can freeze a whole peach and then enjoy it later in the year when you can get fresh local peaches.
You can only eat a bullet once but you can have as many peaches as you like!

Now, would this be millions of peaches;  Peaches for (you)?  Millions of peaches, (and were those peaches free?)
On the off chance that you are too young for the reference.


Peaches - The Presidents Of The United States with Lyrics

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

Hi YorkshirePud,

whatever Putin says, it is  a lie, or it is nonsense, you can choose. The only words of him, I take seriously are the real dangerous ones, as speaking for example about his nukes, because the probability itself, that he could once tell the truth, is threatening at death. Don´t forget to take seriously insane people anytime.

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

Honestly... Did you read the whole post and think that there was no sarcasm?  I believe I suggested nuking Switzerland at one point over taxes...  You thought that I was serious when I suggested that the world devoid of anybody but Americans would be a "golden age" and missed the point about strife still existing between left and right?

Anyhow, to add to my previous thoughts- I now believe that anybody who was passionate enough to have voted for any party in the last election should be incinerated in the name of world peace as well.  Eventually there will be no strife, no friction and no war in the world.  Unlike your suggestion that I may be the last one left in the world, I am confident that there will be a core group of at least 50 of us left at the end who share views close enough that none needs to be "dispatched."  Unless, of course, one of them likes the colour red... then it is "Goodbye Billy" and we are down to 49 (and concubines...)

Excuse me, I incline at the presence to misunderstand any related joke, faced with the horrible scenario, Putin has invoked by his words..

[Quick Karl]

Anyhow, to add to my previous thoughts- I now believe that anybody who was passionate enough to have voted for any party in the last election should be incinerated in the name of world peace as well. 

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29003116
So, does Russia now want south-eastern Ukraine to split from Kiev and become independent? Is Moscow now wedded to the idea of breaking up of Ukraine? Recent reports of Russian military activity across the border would seem to back up this idea.

Latter was demented by a Kremlin speaker just about 12:00 clock European time 31.8., additional stating that eastern Ukraine of course remains part of Ukraine.

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

It is crazy stuff though. Politicians the world over are just power mad asshoes holding us to ransom.

I reckon in this case, that these power mad a.... won't stay alive too to see a payment of ransom, so there is some equity in death. 

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

The only thing bad people comprehend is death. We should dole it out without prejudice until the bad people in the world, are dead, or too afraid to do anything.

Justice is a complicated thing, only in obvious bad behavior, if a criminal is silly enough to let you see his crime, you can, in your own right shoot him in self defense.

All other cases happen clandestine enough to need a very elaborate and costly process called jurisdiction to discriminate the bad from the good, and this process fails often enough to punish or kill innocent people (they simply pay for the sake and risk of justice) or even worse, let the criminals stay alive.

And they are not afraid, even the death penalty by the hot seat is not horrible enough for them, because they believe to escape in any case.

That's the problem, the rest of your opinion is exactly the mine.

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

I guess what I am trying to say is that with somewhat limited resources it might be necessary to pick and choose battles.  At this point I would say it is either ISIS OR Russia.  Opening up full scale war on several continents simultaneously is a recipe for disaster.  Dropping nukes on several nations might also have some unintended consequences (perhaps China would justify a preemptive strike of their own?)

Now I had time, to read your posting once more:

That is a quite reasonable viewpoint, I agree. If I could choose, lets fight against ISIS. It is the initial front of Islam against the civilized world, a ever lasting partial conflict between poor and rich at the end, but we have to keep it under control, as long as possible. For long term handling of the poor/rich conflict in general, I am developing already some ideas.

We should stop to be involved against Russia for now, as long as they settle for Ukraine, if not, then a conflict of NATO against Russia however is unavoidable to keep the sovereignty of Europe.

Nukes as you reckoned already are out of reasonable discussion, but threatening the world by them, as Putin did, only a insane brain can bear, and then good bye pretty world, if he is not stopped immediately to have even only in mind such distorted ideas. But if he has insane ideas, then he is a (nuclear) threat in general and has to be neutralized ASAP, as I stated already above. A preemptive strike is also a impossible option, no question, but can happen even by a twinkly finger! 

[WOTR]

Now I had time, to read your posting once more:

I tend to agree with you that dealing with ISIS should be the more pressing of the two conflicts.  Starting with major economic sanctions with Russia right now and turning off the gas (which, admittedly, the rest of Europe is reliant on) would be a good start.

I am not too worried about him actually being crazy.  I read this as him just wanting to remind a world who believes Russia to be weak that they are still a power to be reckoned with.  As much as anything, I think it also helps position him as a strong man at home.  When the population sees the press reporting that he can threaten the world and the lack of response it makes him look a man who will stand up to the world and gives a (warped) sense of national pride.  (I really hope I am not wrong... I prefer to think that he is not insane.)

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

I really hope I am not wrong... I prefer to think that he is not insane

Thank you for your calming response, I hope it also.

I am a straight pragmatist and therefore I tend to cover the worst case in high risk evaluations as also given here to be prepared for and able to react accordingly. It is a good strategic approach also for situations, where a fight is to be taken into account and also jn case of giving warning information to alert somebody else to quickly make him vigilant. That is important especially for social compounds, as worlds international community is, they tend to react very slowly and therefore are badly vulnerable to rapid attacks, where therefore only shocking information works for this purpose.

Therefore the scenario I used here is the worst case.

Thank you again for your valuable contributions so far.

[Rudolf Zlabinger]

Its time now for a topics summary and intermediate closure.

If I could transfer knowledge about the  potential threat of Putins words about his nuclear weapon arsenal to overseas by this topic, my mission is successful.

I say thanks to the numerous valuable contributions, informing me about the general political atmosphere in your big country and the weak situation BO seems to be, that could also partially explain the reckless behavior of Putin against the world to me and others. I say thanks also to DigitalPigSnuggler for the frogs, who serve now as reference for special readers.

My thanks also to the carrier, the owner and the team of this platform to make this forum available to me for this potential important information transfer.

Yours all sincerely, Rudolf Zlabinger

If there are contributions in addition to, feel, of course, free to submit them, you are welcome in any case.