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Started by jazmunda, August 28, 2014, 03:53:16 PM

Quick Karl

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 29, 2014, 04:55:47 PM

I'm  thinking there's a slight contextual issue here.

You know, press conference with the entire world watching,  preeminent terrorist threat of our time is being  discussed, Russia on the move...

Contrast that with  Dutch Reagan  and W pictured in private, or a very casual setting.

Stop being so rational and logical will ya - it spoils the party for the idiots.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Quick Karl on August 29, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
Stop being so rational and logical will ya - it spoils the party for the idiots.

Yeah because it's far more rational and logical to criticise what the bloke is wearing than what he's saying! Only in America.

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 29, 2014, 04:55:47 PM


I'm  thinking there's a slight contextual issue here.


You know, press conference with the entire world watching,  preeminent terrorist threat of our time is being  discussed, Russia on the move...

Contrast that with  Dutch Reagan  and W pictured in private, or a very casual setting.
Absolutely!  Obama is certainly lacking in the pointing and smirking department.

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jazmunda

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on August 30, 2014, 12:53:46 AM
Absolutely!  Obama is certainly lacking in the pointing and smirking department.

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Pesky photographers. ;)







And the most damning of all. :P


albrecht

What is so crazy is that the press and people are focusing on Obama's suit color choices and not on his policies, or lack thereof, and that he makes bizarre statements like "we have no strategy."

Gd5150

"Dutch Reagan" - F'ing classic. There are presidents, and then there's Reagan. Its amazing to think one of the greatest followed probably the worst president in history at the time. Unfortunately we now have Obama to sit atop the throne of all time worst. We can only hope there is another Reagan out there to follow the miscarriage of a president we currently have to tolerate now. With the way the system is now, it's highly unlikely.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 30, 2014, 01:02:12 PM
"Dutch Reagan" - F'ing classic. There are presidents, and then there's Reagan. Its amazing to think one of the greatest followed probably the worst president in history at the time. Unfortunately we now have Obama to sit atop the throne of all time worst. We can only hope there is another Reagan out there to follow the miscarriage of a president we currently have to tolerate now. With the way the system is now, it's highly unlikely.
"Douche Reagan" - F'ing Jackass.  There are presidents, and then there's Reagan.  It's amazing to think how a colossal fuck up was allowed to get away with merely winking and nodding into the camera.  Young Bucks and Welfare Queens? Iran/Contra?  Beirut 1983? "We begin bombing in 5 minutes?" Deficit spending defense build up?  End regulations on mergers, opening the Downsize Downhill Sprint that has destroyed the economy? Set back the renewable resource industry by decades, giving China the advantage?

Fortunately we now have Obama to sit atop the throne to reconstruct an economy decades of laissez faire attitudes (including pigfucker Bubba Clinton) have cratered.  We can only hope there will never be another Reagan: economically illiterate, class and race obsessed, foreign policy aloof, suffering the onset of Alzheimer's.  With the GOP the way it is now, unfortunately, history is doomed to repeat itself.

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on August 30, 2014, 03:14:33 PM
"Douche Reagan" - F'ing Jackass.  There are presidents, and then there's Reagan.  It's amazing to think how a colossal fuck up was allowed to get away with merely winking and nodding into the camera.  Young Bucks and Welfare Queens? Iran/Contra?  Beirut 1983? "We begin bombing in 5 minutes?" Deficit spending defense build up?  End regulations on mergers, opening the Downsize Downhill Sprint that has destroyed the economy? Set back the renewable resource industry by decades, giving China the advantage?

Fortunately we now have Obama to sit atop the throne to reconstruct an economy decades of laissez faire attitudes (including pigfucker Bubba Clinton) have cratered.  We can only hope there will never be another Reagan: economically illiterate, class and race obsessed, foreign policy aloof, suffering the onset of Alzheimer's.  With the GOP the way it is now, unfortunately, history is doomed to repeat itself.
You forgot BBCI, INSLAW, and Rex 84. But at least he had some allegiance to this country unlike the current occupant who promises to "fundamentally transform" it, allows open-borders, harbors a resentment towards whites and Western Civilization in general, and clearly has no experience or ability on foreign policy (just the other day he bragged about "having no strategy" as if it was a good thing!)

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on August 30, 2014, 03:19:11 PM
You forgot BBCI, INSLAW, and Rex 84. But at least he had some allegiance to this country unlike the current occupant who promises to "fundamentally transform" it, allows open-borders, harbors a resentment towards whites and Western Civilization in general, and clearly has no experience or ability on foreign policy (just the other day he bragged about "having no strategy" as if it was a good thing!)
See, now I know you're punting.  Reagan is when the borders opened up in the first place.  Reagan, dancing at strings manipulated by Don Regan, wanted to crush organized labor.  It was Regan, Kemp, Kristol and the other conservative illuminati who opened up the floodgates to dilute the labor pool, exploit undocumented people, and blame liberals for their presence here.

As to foreign policy?  What is Uncle Ron's triumph?  Grenada?  "Tear down this wall?"  Please.  He left Afghanistan on a string and fomented the birth of Al-Qaeda, enabled China's massive growth by ignoring trade imbalances, and put this country into the biggest financial hole from which we are still digging.  He had shit all to do with German Reunification (caught the CIA off guard) and played footsie with the Japanese. 

He was a shitty president and a worse human being.

I don't have anyone on 'Ignore', but more and more are on 'Scroll'

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on August 30, 2014, 03:24:47 PM
See, now I know you're punting.  Reagan is when the borders opened up in the first place.  Reagan, dancing at strings manipulated by Don Regan, wanted to crush organized labor.  It was Regan, Kemp, Kristol and the other conservative illuminati who opened up the floodgates to dilute the labor pool, exploit undocumented people, and blame liberals for their presence here.

As to foreign policy?  What is Uncle Ron's triumph?  Grenada?  "Tear down this wall?"  Please.  He left Afghanistan on a string and fomented the birth of Al-Qaeda, enabled China's massive growth by ignoring trade imbalances, and put this country into the biggest financial hole from which we are still digging.  He had shit all to do with German Reunification (caught the CIA off guard) and played footsie with the Japanese. 

He was a shitty president and a worse human being.
At least he seemed to care about the country. Granted he had lots of policy problems and worst of all helped the deification of the President (which would crest with Obama being declared "The One".) But we are talking decades ago. We have a President now who clearly (even in his biographies) who has animosity towards much of the country, mainly white people, and Western Civilization, promotes an open-border and an amnesty policy even worse than Reagan's amnesty, has continued and expanded the unconstitutional policies of Patriot Act, NDAA, etc and continues to assert himself in non-issues simply for racial reasons because he enjoys fomenting racial and class tensions in his promise to "fundamentally transform" and "redistribute" the country. Here is a hint. You don't like, or have any allegiance to a place, if you want to "fundamentally transform" it. But this is expected from such a mysterious man with such a bizarre background (a mixed-race child raised by a cross-dressing nanny in the Islamic country of Indonesia by a step-father and a mother named Stanley whose sexual antics would make one seem she wanted to start a mini-UN by her conquests.)

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on August 30, 2014, 03:45:01 PM
I don't have anyone on 'Ignore', but more and more are on 'Scroll'
Don't scroll me, bro!


Quote from: analog kid on September 01, 2014, 07:38:40 AM


Attending a picnic after you`ve left office is a tad different than addressing the world regarding one of the most critical foreign policy issues in recent history.

Quick Karl

Quote from: FightTheFuture on September 01, 2014, 09:32:31 AM
Attending a picnic after you`ve left office is a tad different than addressing the world regarding one of the most critical foreign policy issues in recent history.

How dare you try to suggest that context means anything - WTF is wrong with you anyways?

Quote from: Quick Karl on September 01, 2014, 09:40:52 AM
How dare you try to suggest that context means anything - WTF is wrong with you anyways?

I`m just annoying like that.

analog kid

Quote from: FightTheFuture on September 01, 2014, 09:32:31 AM
Attending a picnic after you`ve left office is a tad different than addressing the world regarding one of the most critical foreign policy issues in recent history.

Who on the world stage do you think cares about this other than wingnuts? Has anyone else in the world complained? Anyone say they were offended? Any evidence that the color of his suit affected the policy he was addressing in any way?

It's about as salient as the controversy over the cheeseburger.

Quick Karl

Quote from: analog kid on September 01, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
Who on the world stage do you think cares about this other than wingnuts? Has anyone else in the world complained? Anyone say they were offended? Any evidence that the color of his suit affected the policy he was addressing in any way?

It's about as salient as the controversy over the cheeseburger.

The guy has zero respect for the country or for the office he is squatting in - he'd rather be on vacation on your dime.

THAT is why it matters.

Quote from: analog kid on September 01, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
Who on the world stage do you think cares about this other than wingnuts? Has anyone else in the world complained? Anyone say they were offended? Any evidence that the color of his suit affected the policy he was addressing in any way?

It's about as salient as the controversy over the cheeseburger.



You better believe our adversaries observe, record, and analyze every last single nuance of our President. It is absolutely crucial that his demeanor come across as serious-minded. engaged and statesman-like, which, obviously, he has failed to do, and not just on this occasion.

analog kid

Uh-huh. I'm sure ISIS has a concept of a tan suit being culturally beneath the stature of the office of the POTUS. Right.

Quote from: Quick Karl on September 01, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
The guy has zero respect for the country or for the office he is squatting in - he'd rather be on vacation on your dime.

THAT is why it matters.

What in the world are you gibbering about? Obama isn't even a third of the way to matching the previous administration's vacation time. Nor is he close to matching the cost.

Quote from: analog kid on September 01, 2014, 10:43:15 AM
Uh-huh. I'm sure ISIS has a concept of a tan suit being culturally beneath the stature of the office of the POTUS. Right.

What in the world are you gibbering about? Obama isn't even a third of the way to matching the previous administration's vacation time. Nor is he close to matching the cost.


You can't possibly be that naive.


Quick Karl

Quote from: onan on September 01, 2014, 11:40:13 AM
Yeah you're obviously a presidential advisor...

Yeah you're obviously a presidential advisor...

The thing is, the way this character fucks up, you probably really are.


Avi

Ah, c'mon. All presidents have an inner Huggy-Bear, just dying to get out. If they didn't have personal assistants and fashion advisers, they'd probably do a Carmen Miranda and appear with a bowl of fruit on their heads. Occasionally, I suppose they just have to be talked down into a tan suit or a plaid jacket, a lesser monstrosity that diverts the public.

Maybe it's all the golfing.  Wild outfits are accepted, if not demanded on the course, and golfing every day has to ultimately have an effect on ones fashion sense.

WOTR

Quote from: albrecht on August 30, 2014, 11:55:43 AM
What is so crazy is that the press and people are focusing on Obama's suit color choices and not on his policies, or lack thereof, and that he makes bizarre statements like "we have no strategy."
What, you are one of those "substance over style" people?  Sorry, but the rest of us would rather talk about how Obama's style choices may or may not clash with Paris Hilton's.  Stop interrupting the conversation and worrying about policies, actions and legislation.

Do you think that this suit would have clashed if her were standing next to her wearing this?  (It really was a toss up between her and a Kardashian to demonstrate my point and the depth of my caring about a suit...)

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