Hillary Clinton

[chefist]

No matter how much Hillary wins by, we can expect a court battle from Trump since at the very least he would like to have known he lost a little less badly.

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[albrecht]

No matter how much Hillary wins by, we can expect a court battle from Trump since at the very least he would like to have known he lost a little less badly.

I don't know. Sure he doesn't like to lose but also has said 'no big deal if I lose I will still lead a good life' (paraphrased) and didn't start a traditional ground-game until late in the race(s.) And, if my initial conspiratorial thoughts were right, it could've been the plan all along to have Billary win. But I'm tending to doubt the initial gut-feeling now due to his ego and the shocking developments and polling since Billary is (at least perceived as) so dishonest, corrupt, unhealthy, untrustworthy, tired, and the coronation expected hasn't come to pass even with Hollywood, Banks, international organizations and countries, billionaires, and the media all pushing for her and still so close? I think even if Trump was in it for Billary or as a lark at this point he thinks- Why not? Maybe I can actually win? Which might, why the Billaries and the establishment insiders are so shocked and tired and ill? Who knows. Maybe he was in from the beginning and really always wanted to win?

[Designx]

I don't know. Sure he doesn't like to lose but also has said 'no big deal if I lose I will still lead a good life' (paraphrased) and didn't start a traditional ground-game until late in the race(s.) And, if my initial conspiratorial thoughts were right, it could've been the plan all along to have Billary win. But I'm tending to doubt the initial gut-feeling now due to his ego and the shocking developments and polling since Billary is (at least perceived as) so dishonest, corrupt, unhealthy, untrustworthy, tired, and the coronation expected hasn't come to pass even with Hollywood, Banks, international organizations and countries, billionaires, and the media all pushing for her and still so close? I think even if Trump was in it for Billary or as a lark at this point he thinks- Why not? Maybe I can actually win? Which might, why the Billaries and the establishment insiders are so shocked and tired and ill? Who knows. Maybe he was in from the beginning and really always wanted to win?

They just can't see from the outside how bad a candidate Hillary is - she is one of the poorest Democratic candidates to run for president in years. If they were just looking for a woman to run, there were many better options. Hillary really is just another old dog that needs to run its course. The Republicans did the same thing these past couple elections until losing became an expected thing. It really is the ignorance of the American people that has allowed things to get to where they are. For your conspiracy to work, you have to believe Trump has absolutely no love for this country and no care for the election process which is a hard pill to swallow. Can a man be so corrupt and in love with money as to attempt such a thing? Some people claim Trump is actually broke and there is some evidence to show that he doesn't have what he claims and that he's doing things even now to enrich himself. I don't buy it maybe only because Trump is putting out so much energy campaigning and getting his message out that what is driving the man is something greater than materialism and wealth.

[136 or 142]

Pointing out your hypocrisy isn't hypersensitive or outrageous.

It's not my problem that you're a whiny loser.

[Dr. MD MD]

Kdubb, if you're reading this maybe you could come up with a nice basket of deplorables graphic for us. I'd like to see that! 

[Dr. MD MD]

So, we're not supposed to give in to conspiracy theories because that intellectual giant, George Bush Jr. told us not to. People are regularly ridiculed here for indulging in them. However, I notice that it's alright for democrats to talk about their suspicions of a "right-wing" conspiracy and a Russian conspiracy. I wonder what the next official conspiracy theory will be that we'll be allowed to think of?! 

[21st Century Man]

The only major conspiracy theory that I believe in is the UFO cover-up.  In that case, the govt. may have thought they had good reasons to cover it up.  Mass panics and such.

[Jackstar]

The only major conspiracy theory that I believe in is the UFO cover-up.

Who killed Kennedy?

[136 or 142]

Who killed Kennedy?

Ted Cruz! Obviously.

[norland2424]

Ted Cruz! Obviously.

Nah hes the zodiac

[Jackstar]

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.  This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger'  ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs',  'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics',  'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others  shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

[Dr. MD MD]

Ted Cruz! Obviously.

You're thinking of Ted Cruz' dad but killing presidents is in Ted's blood too. He even had to kill his own chance at it. 

[21st Century Man]

Nah hes the zodiac

He must have done it in his past life as he was born in December, 1970. lol

[norland2424]

He must have done it in his past life as he was born in December, 1970. lol

Lol

[albrecht]

They just can't see from the outside how bad a candidate Hillary is - she is one of the poorest Democratic candidates to run for president in years. If they were just looking for a woman to run, there were many better options. Hillary really is just another old dog that needs to run its course. The Republicans did the same thing these past couple elections until losing became an expected thing. It really is the ignorance of the American people that has allowed things to get to where they are. For your conspiracy to work, you have to believe Trump has absolutely no love for this country and no care for the election process which is a hard pill to swallow. Can a man be so corrupt and in love with money as to attempt such a thing? Some people claim Trump is actually broke and there is some evidence to show that he doesn't have what he claims and that he's doing things even now to enrich himself. I don't buy it maybe only because Trump is putting out so much energy campaigning and getting his message out that what is driving the man is something greater than materialism and wealth.

I only mention my initial gut-feeling. I most certainly will vote for him over Hillary. But still remember because there almost always is a "it can't happen here" and "normalcy bias" in humans but you look from ancient history, even myths, to more modern things....? Conspiracies happen all the time, for many motives. Whether royal intrigues, succession plots in religions or royalty, financial, or just criminal. But, somehow, we are immune in modern times?

[analog kid]

So, we're not supposed to give in to conspiracy theories because that intellectual giant, George Bush Jr. told us not to. People are regularly ridiculed here for indulging in them. However, I notice that it's alright for democrats to talk about their suspicions of a "right-wing" conspiracy and a Russian conspiracy. I wonder what the next official conspiracy theory will be that we'll be allowed to think of?! 

The FBI and CIA both say the Russians are involved. An independent security firm said there's Russian fingerprints all over the DNC hacks, and the dots are extremely easy to connect.

I like how state-sponsored Russian hackers is where you guys draw the line on credulity.

[Dr. MD MD]

The FBI and CIA both say the Russians are involved. An independent security firm said there's Russian fingerprints all over the DNC hacks, and the dots are extremely easy to connect.

I like how state-sponsored Russian hackers is where you guys draw the line on credulity.

Right, so this is the official conspiracy theory we're allowed to believe in. You guys are pathetic.  :

[analog kid]

Right, so this is the official conspiracy theory we're allowed to believe in. You guys are pathetic.  :

Everyone in intelligence is lying about it. Only Breitbart and Alex Jones know the truth. Mmmhmmm.

[Jackstar]

The FBI and CIA both say the Russians are involved.

Must've been another lone gunman.

Everyone in intelligence is lying about it.

That's, like, their job. Duh.

[Dr. MD MD]

Everyone in intelligence is lying about it. Only Breitbart and Alex Jones know the truth. Mmmhmmm.

The CIA have quite the record of going off book. Who would know WTF they could be lying about at any given time? And now the FBI seems to be working for the Clinton Foundation. We know the NSA is spying on EVERYONE. So, yeah, I'd say that everyone in intelligence IS lying about it. The real question is why? As to who to trust I'm really not sure anymore. I suppose we'll have to trust ourselves primarily.

[analog kid]

The CIA have quite the record of going off book. Who would know WTF they could be lying about at any given time? And now the FBI seems to be working for the Clinton Foundation. We know the NSA is spying on EVERYONE. So, yeah, I'd say that everyone in intelligence IS lying about it. The real question is why? As to who to trust I'm really not sure anymore. I suppose we'll have to trust ourselves primarily.

The FBI has been compromised by a charitable organization?

That Russia has done this to other countries is well known. That they're trying to influence our elections is established at this point. It's not open for interpretation.

Hillary murdering a bunch of people and getting away with it because she's reptilian illuminati is perfectly reasonable. Russian hackers? That's crazy talk.

[Jackstar]

The FBI has been compromised by a charitable organization?

There's no evidence that the FBI, as an organization, has any integrity whatsoever.

[Dr. MD MD]

The FBI has been compromised by a charitable organization?

That Russia has done this to other countries is well known. That they're trying to influence our elections is established at this point. It's not open for interpretation.

Hillary murdering a bunch of people and getting away with it because she's reptilian illuminati is perfectly reasonable. Russian hackers? That's crazy talk.

Umm...yeah...here's the thing about that...WE JUST SHOOK HANDS WITH THE RUSSIANS YESTERDAY IN AN EFFORT TO DEFEAT ISIS TOGETHER!

How's your conspiracy theory going to play out now? 

[analog kid]

Umm...yeah...here's the thing about that...WE JUST SHOOK HANDS WITH THE RUSSIANS YESTERDAY IN AN EFFORT TO DEFEAT ISIS TOGETHER!

How's your conspiracy theory going to play out now? 

These things can coincide.

[analog kid]

There's no evidence that the FBI, as an organization, has any integrity whatsoever.

You basically once said that you want Russia to hack our elections because our government isn't legitimate as long as a Democrat is in the White House.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

[Dr. MD MD]

These things can coincide.

You guys keep telling yourselves that. Maybe try clicking your heels together and saying, "There's no place like home. There's no place like home." 

I have a feeling if Hillary goes down she'll be taking the Obama administration with her. 

[albrecht]

You basically once said that you want Russia to hack our elections because our government isn't legitimate as long as a Democrat is in the White House.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

Haha! Well put. Of course we were never indeded to be a democracy, obviously.

[Jackstar]

You basically once said that you want Russia to hack our elections because our government isn't legitimate as long as a Democrat is in the White House.

I have no recollection of any such exchange, with you or with anyone else. I'm calling shenanigans.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

Now you're just making shit up.

[21st Century Man]

Haha! Well put. Of course we were never indeded to be a democracy, obviously.

Ding.  Some on here can't quite grasp that.

[Dr. MD MD]

Ding.  Some on here can't quite grasp that.

Get in the basket, deplorable!