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Do You REALLY Think Art Will Be Back in 2015?

Started by ksm32, June 19, 2014, 11:17:37 PM

zeebo

Quote from: s1alker on June 29, 2014, 05:36:23 AM
Radio and it's audience is not like it was when Art was in his prime. We live in a world with 20 second youtube clips and instant gratification everywhere. As I noticed with Dark Matter most of the callers and listeners were a small group of fans who listened previously. The audience would definitely need to be expanded but then you have to deal with big corporate if you want to go big time.

I think this sums it up nicely, unfortunately.  Art wants more control, which nowadays with the fractured media channels, he can have - but at the cost of the wider audience that once invigorated his broadcasts.

Art said he was offered shows by two major networks. Any time slot he wanted. He should take a deal with Cumulus. Or at least allow his show to be picked up by their affiliates.

Red eye is a joke anyways.

Chaim

Art needs to team up with Alex Jones.
Alex has a perfect 24/7 streaming network.
Art would get a worldwide audience and callers.
Alex doesn't need his network at night really.



Scorch

He says he will but it won't actually happen.  It's ok though, we have that massive collection of show that will last a lifetime and he can't quit those.  He burned a bridge with DM and that will not be forgotten.

Chaim

Quote from: Blinko on July 06, 2014, 05:57:52 PM
Alex jones is a clown
a clown with a state of the art network streaming 24/7 for free listening and a big staff of 1st class IT guys and artists and journalists - and his attorneys actually are good, imagine that.

albrecht

Quote from: Chaim on July 07, 2014, 02:29:38 PM
a clown with a state of the art network streaming 24/7 for free listening and a big staff of 1st class IT guys and artists and journalists - and his attorneys actually are good, imagine that.
Actually if Alex could keep his ego down it would be a good solution for Art. Alex has a large staff, good facilities, lots of affiliates, shortwave, technical know-how staff, pretty solid advertiser base, and various internet channels etc. They aren't working at night. Why not put AB on there for a more "paranormal" late-night driven show. The problem, to me, would be with Alex's ego and chances that AB would piss him off by not buying all his theories or having guests on that disagree with Alex.

onan

Art had some politics, and they did get into his show. But he wasn't divisive. I would hope he stays that way.

albrecht

Quote from: onan on July 07, 2014, 02:44:39 PM
Art had some politics, and they did get into his show. But he wasn't divisive. I would hope he stays that way.
Yeah, but even when Art was political (and he was quite a bit about some subjects) he didn't rant or (to my knowledge) ban guests or berate them. I think the only guests that were banned were pure, obvious charlatans or acted in an impolite manner (or outright made claims about him being a pedofile and the like.)  And Art would have "political" guests from all over the place politically- some that nobody, even a crazy Alex or JBW, much less a corporately run show like C2C, would have on now (William Pierce! as one example.)

Having said that, if Alex is asleep and keeps his ego out of it, he has a system (tech, people, advertisers, internet, shortwave, phone systems, studios, etc) in place that Art could use effectively without all the technical problems he complains about.

Tarbaby

Art, I'm checking in on this thread as we discussed. Go ahead and set up that simulcast on CNN, in Larry Kings old time slot, it's the only thing that can save them now. I will use whatever pull I have to make it happen. You will be able to take all the phone and Skype calls you wish., on air.

I'm keeping an eye on things over here. Don't worry about Titor. He can't triangulate on me, My computer room is a faraday cage. Yes, Mr. fidget showed up here as you predicted. He's playing it meek and mild but occasionally his tremendous intellect shows through.

I have toggled this post to "stealth "mode so no one can see it but us.

Foodlion

Quote from: Chaim on July 07, 2014, 02:29:38 PM
a clown with a state of the art network streaming 24/7 for free listening and a big staff of 1st class IT guys and artists and journalists - and his attorneys actually are good, imagine that.

And AJ "claims" he's not in it for the money lol. He would endorse 3 toed sloth penis cream if the money was right. I've never heard a radio host put up some much bullshit. Even the links to a lot of his sponsers are flagged by antivirus programs. Alex Jones may at once time been legit, is now sold out himself. 

Heather Wade

Quote from: Chaim on July 06, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
Art needs to team up with Alex Jones.
Alex has a perfect 24/7 streaming network.
Art would get a worldwide audience and callers.
Alex doesn't need his network at night really.



Except that Art doesn't like him.  At all. 

ksm32

Quote from: (Redacted) on July 07, 2014, 06:18:29 PM
Except that Art doesn't like him.  At all.

Yeah I thought that was common knowledge. Shame on Chaim.


Chaim

Quote from: (Redacted) on July 07, 2014, 06:18:29 PM
Except that Art doesn't like him.  At all.
Have they met? Or does he not like Alex's radio personality.

on second thought. I mean Arts probably gonna die anyway any day now, being 78.
Maybe best he doesn't embarrass himself anymore trying to broadcast.
Alex is probably not going to take the risk of helping that trainwreck back into radio.
Even is he's not gonna die soon, he'll probably just quit again in 6 months anyway.

Morgus

Quote from: Chaim on July 07, 2014, 11:46:36 PM
I mean Arts probably gonna die anyway any day now, being 78.
I think Art is age 69 now, born in June 1945...

I believe Bell Will Be Back, with a backdrop sound intro of a slightly customized "Hell's Bell" by AC/DC, who graciously rerecord a clip for him. This bumper could possibly end up being coordinated and recorded on MV's modified microphone as the band is blowing through the "show me state" on tour. Stranger things have happened.

Further, I believe he will log in a respectable amount of shows to forever and properly eclipse the Dark Matter blip. He wants to do this. There are many reasons for wanting to do this, but one of them is to prove that he can.

I have to believe that, else I see no real core reason to frequent this forum - other than taking a break from working, but I could use Digital Eel's Dr. Blob's Organism to take a breather just as easily.

I have to believe in Art's intent and follow-up, even though the Dark Matter event soured me. Greatly.

Often, the brain and heart are at war.

It's an analog of religious/spiritual conviction. All the history and perceived proof points over there. But I keep looking beyond that toward up there at some godhead, figuratively speaking.

If I am truly an Art Atheist, I need to quit going to church, so to speak, and just hold communion with Dr. Blob's Organism or whatever other code resides in this old com's Purgatorial sectors. Art forbid that I go outside and stretch my legs, right?

Rumor has it that Sardondi has logged many an hour with Dr. Blob and other time killers.  It's a sunless, and AM radio-free road with bent antennas, burned out radio dials, and windblown burger wrappers. Driving on a challenging hunt - trying to locate an intact Mati Hari pinball machine in some long forgotten truck stop.  But that road is real, even if dark.

It's a chthonic highway I may find myself and my Phantom Corsair on someday soon.

Just not yet.

You owe me for this sermon, Mr. Bell.

If you're there.

http://www.digital-eel.com/organism/

Chaim

Quote from: Morgus on July 08, 2014, 12:43:18 AM
I think Art is age 69 now, born in June 1945...
right. I even looked it up on wiki but then still wrote it wrong. Guess I got Alzheimer's too already at 41.

Chaim

gotta feel sorry for Art, I mean the poor guy just wants to give us pleasure and do what he's good at - talk radio, and the Universe is throwing sticks at his feet constantly.

I really like Art on talk radio, what I don't like so much is his ignorance of political stuff. He would do well do learn a few things from Alex Jones, really (despite somebody here said he hates Alex). Alex is of course exaggerating and hyping things often to make exciting news, and Alex is pretty much in love with himself to a point, but then when it comes down to the core he seems to be a really nice guy and very clever and has great analytical skill.

Quote from: Chaim on July 08, 2014, 02:15:58 AM
gotta feel sorry for Art, I mean the poor guy just wants to give us pleasure and do what he's good at - talk radio, and the Universe is throwing sticks at his feet constantly.

I really like Art on talk radio, what I don't like so much is his ignorance of political stuff. He would do well do learn a few things from Alex Jones, really (despite somebody here said he hates Alex). Alex is of course exaggerating and hyping things often to make exciting news, and Alex is pretty much in love with himself to a point, but then when it comes down to the core he seems to be a really nice guy and very clever and has great analytical skill.

Are you kidding me. Art knows politics he was a political host. He is not as you say ignorant of it.

He like most Americans think alex Jones is a hack. Jones sees a conspiracy in everything it's a joke. Bell has stated that he thinks the main reason noory sucks is he too much like alex jones.

Bell has described his views on politics anti immigration, pro gun control, libertarian, etc. he does not want his show to be political based.

Art will be back, I just again hopes he get radio affiliates because DRMN is not a big enough medium for him I accomplish his show. He has to start negotiating affiliate deals now.

Chaim

Quote from: nooryisawesome on July 08, 2014, 02:40:15 AM
Are you kidding me. Art knows politics he was a political host. He is not as you say ignorant of it.
Art has about as much political insight as the average Joe Shmoe on the street.
He supported Obama and praised him like the coming of Jesus,
probably likes Clinton too, not sure,
and he still can't admit to himself that the government's 9/11 story is a load of crap full of lies deception and coverups.
So yes, compared to Alex Jones he is totally ignorant and prefers to not question anything to feel more comfortable.

albrecht

Quote from: Chaim on July 08, 2014, 04:43:54 AM
Art has about as much political insight as the average Joe Shmoe on the street.
He supported Obama and praised him like the coming of Jesus,
probably likes Clinton too, not sure,
and he still can't admit to himself that the government's 9/11 story is a load of crap full of lies deception and coverups.
So yes, compared to Alex Jones he is totally ignorant and prefers to not question anything to feel more comfortable.
Art was pretty anti-Clintons and was really against his gun control plans and all the various scandals. He strongly support Newt Gringrich and the "Contract with America" and gloated over the victories that year. But he didn't rant and rave, like Alex, and would have guests on all sides of politics- including very, very fringe people like even William Pierce. But he didn't agree with all his guests but would ask questions, and listen, to all of them (for the most part.) He also had very personal experiences with the immigration system (and the frustrations with it) and was against the illegal immigrant wave. But he also was libertarian on other things contrary to Republican policies. But, again, no ranting or cutting off callers/guests (if they were calm and not hacks or cursing- or things like accusing him of being a pedophile. Which, as we all know, is not only about the worst thing you can accuse someone of but hits close to home personally for him.)

Quote from: albrecht on July 08, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
Art was pretty anti-Clintons and was really against his gun control plans and all the various scandals. He strongly support Newt Gringrich and the "Contract with America" and gloated over the victories that year. But he didn't rant and rave, like Alex, and would have guests on all sides of politics- including very, very fringe people like even William Pierce. But he didn't agree with all his guests but would ask questions, and listen, to all of them (for the most part.) He also had very personal experiences with the immigration system (and the frustrations with it) and was against the illegal immigrant wave. But he also was libertarian on other things contrary to Republican policies. But, again, no ranting or cutting off callers/guests (if they were calm and not hacks or cursing- or things like accusing him of being a pedophile. Which, as we all know, is not only about the worst thing you can accuse someone of but hits close to home personally for him.)

I was rather surprised by Art supporting Obama.

albrecht

Quote from: From Somewhere Out There on July 08, 2014, 11:54:59 AM
I was rather surprised by Art supporting Obama.
Yeah, but like a lot of Americans he might've just been sick of Bush, the friggini wars, bad economy or bought into the "white guilt"/Wanna-be-a-part-of-history schtick. I never heard him really explain it, or forgot if I did.

Diabhal

Even if he came back the quality would be similar if not worse than his Sirius shows. That said, I've tried a lot of paranormal shows and not a single one of them comes close to 1990's Art Bell. Those shows kinda give me a small glimmer of hope that I'll pop on here, he'll have an extra 1000 pages in his various threads and will be be doing his podcast, I'll listen and it'll be great.

Me saying the quality wasn't as good is not a dig btw. I presume if your popular shows involve guests that have been debunked/proven to be mongs (sup Dicky Hoagy) it makes you jaded towards the paranormal genre in general.

Guy owes a lot of people though for doing a runner after a week when they've paid hard earned money to listen to him.

b_dubb

Quote from: albrecht on July 08, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
Art was pretty anti-Clintons and was really against his gun control plans and all the various scandals. He strongly support Newt Gringrich and the "Contract with America" and gloated over the victories that year. But he didn't rant and rave, like Alex, and would have guests on all sides of politics- including very, very fringe people like even William Pierce. But he didn't agree with all his guests but would ask questions, and listen, to all of them (for the most part.) He also had very personal experiences with the immigration system (and the frustrations with it) and was against the illegal immigrant wave. But he also was libertarian on other things contrary to Republican policies. But, again, no ranting or cutting off callers/guests (if they were calm and not hacks or cursing- or things like accusing him of being a pedophile. Which, as we all know, is not only about the worst thing you can accuse someone of but hits close to home personally for him.)

I think if you listen to some of Art's shows from early 2000's he changes his tune.  Post 9/11 the Clinton Presidency era seems like a kind of paradise.  I miss the 90's.

Heather Wade

I miss those times, too.  Glad I'm not the only one thinking so.  Fuck.

jazmunda

Quote from: (Redacted) on July 08, 2014, 09:02:39 PM
I miss those times, too.  Glad I'm not the only one thinking so.  Fuck.

You're definitely not the only one. I would love to time travel back to the 90s. Good times.

Quote from: Chaim on July 08, 2014, 04:43:54 AM
Art has about as much political insight as the average Joe Shmoe on the street.
He supported Obama and praised him like the coming of Jesus,
probably likes Clinton too, not sure,
and he still can't admit to himself that the government's 9/11 story is a load of crap full of lies deception and coverups.
So yes, compared to Alex Jones he is totally ignorant and prefers to not question anything to feel more comfortable.

I thought art had a lot of political insight, he ran a political talk show for many years.
The fact you made some of these statements makes me wonder if you listened to art at all.

He questioned government , see Twa flight, etc. he just didn't like retards and their 9/11 conspriacy theories.

Lt.Uhura

I was so relieved when Art began DM last fall and said he was avoiding politics.  There are plenty of hate-filled political rants from radio hosts and callers up and down the dial, TV, and all over social media.  The extreme divisiveness these days is so dysfunctional, and really serves no purpose to inform whatsoever.  I can't imagine Art wasting his time with people's political opinions when there are so many other important topics to discuss. 

And why would Art hook up with another network (Alex Jones!) and get involved in their BS when he has DM ready to go?  Of course the show will be smaller scale than his C2C days, and why not?  How many of you would want to work full-time at age 70?  Even if he does 2-3 shows a week I'll be happy to listen.  As far as the concerns about enough callers, I don't think it's a big deal.  On the Internet, people are likely to IM or Skype if they want to interact.  Art's on-air talent is well known and radio affiliates might come calling for his podcast unsolicited.  As mentioned previously, radio today is not the powerful medium it once was, but live radio & podcast would be nice if it happens.  I'm ready for the ride.

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