Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

[malachi.martini]

lol.. troll much?

I know you guys love a good boogie man, but Art himself blames the streams, not Noory.  Art himself said the decision to end Dark Matter was "mutual."

[nika01]

Penguin .

I get it now. You are self absorbed.

[tertiaryimam]

I was going to sit this wave out, but since Salty mentioned me, I decided to clear up a couple points:

1) My "troll" comment was in jest, but it was not meant to be at Mr PenguiN's expense.  I was poking fun at the various posters who called me a troll for having posted the same sentiments as the bird's (I actually used the "perfect storm" analogy BEFORE Art came back on the air) previously.


2) A few days ago I made the point I can and do accept that others can look at the same scenario I look at and come to different conclusions based on life experiences, education, environment etc.  Doesn't mean I agree with them necessarily.  In Art's case, I honestly believe he believes the case he has built.  We all put outselves in the best light when we relate life events.  That's why I could say I never called him a "liar".  To me, a liar says something purposely knowing it's false. To my knowledge, he's not done that.  You can call "bullshit" on someone's take without calling them a liar.  I disagree with Art in his take on this whole sorry situation, for the reasons I've posted over the past couple weeks.  Some of my reasons were factual, others opinion or conjecture based on his history.  Someone called me "harsh", but I can live with that because, as I responded to that poster, that's the world I worked in for thirty-plus years.  To the point, maybe even terse on ocassion, but not personal.  And yes, I do like to mess with people, but in almost always jest. 

3)  Again recognizing human nature for what it is, I find it interesting to see how people, not just on this blog but in general, respond to similar circumstances but under different situations.  In particular here, when I used the same dispassionate, fact/reason based approach to take apart George and some of the goofy guests both he and Art had on the air, I received a number of laudatory comments.  (The guy who told the story of the F-14 pilot landing on the other worldly island comes most immediately to mind, but there were others.)  I used the exact same approach in looking at Art's situation, and suddenly I'm an idiot and a troll.  Why?  Because most of you agreed with me realtive to George and the goofy guests, but are so devoted to Art you can't be totally objective.  Not meant as a slam, rather an observation.  Despite what at least a few of you think, I love the guy too.  Best radio interviewer I ever heard, and I'm sorry, even angry he's off the air.  I do think he handled things poorly, and let his ego write a check his employer couldn't cash.  His bluff got called, and he/we lost.  I hope to hear him in some format again, but I don't think it will happen.  I think deep down he's accepted his inner Roberto (No mas, no mas) Duran, and I'm not sure I blame him at this point.  Sometimes it takes more than desire to get up off the mat.

I disagree with everything you say, Uncle Duke, but I'll die for your right to say it.

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[dortmunder]

Did she meet up with some black eyed kids or get abducted by hybrids? :<

That would have made things much easier :-)

[Abbot_of_Ashton]

Who is Dave Noorie? I know George Noory. I keep seeing Dave and don't get it.

I've been wondering the same thing.. 

[DarKPenguiN]

I was going to sit this wave out, but since Salty mentioned me, I decided to clear up a couple points:

1) My "troll" comment was in jest, but it was not meant to be at Mr PenguiN's expense.  I was poking fun at the various posters who called me a troll for having posted the same sentiments as the bird's (I actually used the "perfect storm" analogy BEFORE Art came back on the air) previously.


2) A few days ago I made the point I can and do accept that others can look at the same scenario I look at and come to different conclusions based on life experiences, education, environment etc.  Doesn't mean I agree with them necessarily.  In Art's case, I honestly believe he believes the case he has built.  We all put outselves in the best light when we relate life events.  That's why I could say I never called him a "liar".  To me, a liar says something purposely knowing it's false. To my knowledge, he's not done that.  You can call "bullshit" on someone's take without calling them a liar.  I disagree with Art in his take on this whole sorry situation, for the reasons I've posted over the past couple weeks.  Some of my reasons were factual, others opinion or conjecture based on his history.  Someone called me "harsh", but I can live with that because, as I responded to that poster, that's the world I worked in for thirty-plus years.  To the point, maybe even terse on ocassion, but not personal.  And yes, I do like to mess with people, but in almost always jest. 

3)  Again recognizing human nature for what it is, I find it interesting to see how people, not just on this blog but in general, respond to similar circumstances but under different situations.  In particular here, when I used the same dispassionate, fact/reason based approach to take apart George and some of the goofy guests both he and Art had on the air, I received a number of laudatory comments.  (The guy who told the story of the F-14 pilot landing on the other worldly island comes most immediately to mind, but there were others.)  I used the exact same approach in looking at Art's situation, and suddenly I'm an idiot and a troll.  Why?  Because most of you agreed with me realtive to George and the goofy guests, but are so devoted to Art you can't be totally objective.  Not meant as a slam, rather an observation.  Despite what at least a few of you think, I love the guy too.  Best radio interviewer I ever heard, and I'm sorry, even angry he's off the air.  I do think he handled things poorly, and let his ego write a check his employer couldn't cash.  His bluff got called, and he/we lost.  I hope to hear him in some format again, but I don't think it will happen.  I think deep down he's accepted his inner Roberto (No mas, no mas) Duran, and I'm not sure I blame him at this point.  Sometimes it takes more than desire to get up off the mat.

WOW.

Well put.

[lonevoice]

tl;dr

[DarKPenguiN]

Penguin .

I get it now. You are self absorbed.

-That must be it.

[grano salis]

I was going to sit this wave out, but since Salty mentioned me, I decided to clear up a couple points:

1) My "troll" comment was in jest, but it was not meant to be at Mr PenguiN's expense.  I was poking fun at the various posters who called me a troll for having posted the same sentiments as the bird's (I actually used the "perfect storm" analogy BEFORE Art came back on the air) previously.


2) A few days ago I made the point I can and do accept that others can look at the same scenario I look at and come to different conclusions based on life experiences, education, environment etc.  Doesn't mean I agree with them necessarily.  In Art's case, I honestly believe he believes the case he has built.  We all put outselves in the best light when we relate life events.  That's why I could say I never called him a "liar".  To me, a liar says something purposely knowing it's false. To my knowledge, he's not done that.  You can call "bullshit" on someone's take without calling them a liar.  I disagree with Art in his take on this whole sorry situation, for the reasons I've posted over the past couple weeks.  Some of my reasons were factual, others opinion or conjecture based on his history.  Someone called me "harsh", but I can live with that because, as I responded to that poster, that's the world I worked in for thirty-plus years.  To the point, maybe even terse on ocassion, but not personal.  And yes, I do like to mess with people, but in almost always jest. 

3)  Again recognizing human nature for what it is, I find it interesting to see how people, not just on this blog but in general, respond to similar circumstances but under different situations.  In particular here, when I used the same dispassionate, fact/reason based approach to take apart George and some of the goofy guests both he and Art had on the air, I received a number of laudatory comments.  (The guy who told the story of the F-14 pilot landing on the other worldly island comes most immediately to mind, but there were others.)  I used the exact same approach in looking at Art's situation, and suddenly I'm an idiot and a troll.  Why?  Because most of you agreed with me realtive to George and the goofy guests, but are so devoted to Art you can't be totally objective.  Not meant as a slam, rather an observation.  Despite what at least a few of you think, I love the guy too.  Best radio interviewer I ever heard, and I'm sorry, even angry he's off the air.  I do think he handled things poorly, and let his ego write a check his employer couldn't cash.  His bluff got called, and he/we lost.  I hope to hear him in some format again, but I don't think it will happen.  I think deep down he's accepted his inner Roberto (No mas, no mas) Duran, and I'm not sure I blame him at this point.  Sometimes it takes more than desire to get up off the mat.

I would not want to have any conflict with Duke in a working environment...

[fave]

OMG yes! Rewinding is a nightmare. If you miss someting, just give it up.

I emailed Sirus about it, no response, BIG surprise.

[malachi.martini]

I was going to sit this wave out, but since Salty mentioned me, I decided to clear up a couple points:

1) My "troll" comment was in jest, but it was not meant to be at Mr PenguiN's expense.  I was poking fun at the various posters who called me a troll for having posted the same sentiments as the bird's (I actually used the "perfect storm" analogy BEFORE Art came back on the air) previously.


2) A few days ago I made the point I can and do accept that others can look at the same scenario I look at and come to different conclusions based on life experiences, education, environment etc.  Doesn't mean I agree with them necessarily.  In Art's case, I honestly believe he believes the case he has built.  We all put outselves in the best light when we relate life events.  That's why I could say I never called him a "liar".  To me, a liar says something purposely knowing it's false. To my knowledge, he's not done that.  You can call "bullshit" on someone's take without calling them a liar.  I disagree with Art in his take on this whole sorry situation, for the reasons I've posted over the past couple weeks.  Some of my reasons were factual, others opinion or conjecture based on his history.  Someone called me "harsh", but I can live with that because, as I responded to that poster, that's the world I worked in for thirty-plus years.  To the point, maybe even terse on ocassion, but not personal.  And yes, I do like to mess with people, but in almost always jest. 

3)  Again recognizing human nature for what it is, I find it interesting to see how people, not just on this blog but in general, respond to similar circumstances but under different situations.  In particular here, when I used the same dispassionate, fact/reason based approach to take apart George and some of the goofy guests both he and Art had on the air, I received a number of laudatory comments.  (The guy who told the story of the F-14 pilot landing on the other worldly island comes most immediately to mind, but there were others.)  I used the exact same approach in looking at Art's situation, and suddenly I'm an idiot and a troll.  Why?  Because most of you agreed with me realtive to George and the goofy guests, but are so devoted to Art you can't be totally objective.  Not meant as a slam, rather an observation.  Despite what at least a few of you think, I love the guy too.  Best radio interviewer I ever heard, and I'm sorry, even angry he's off the air.  I do think he handled things poorly, and let his ego write a check his employer couldn't cash.  His bluff got called, and he/we lost.  I hope to hear him in some format again, but I don't think it will happen.  I think deep down he's accepted his inner Roberto (No mas, no mas) Duran, and I'm not sure I blame him at this point.  Sometimes it takes more than desire to get up off the mat.

[dortmunder]

Thank you. 

Jaz, I think YOU should start a podcast from Down Under and have Art on. Your mic sounds great.

[guildnavigator]

[Luna]

I emailed Sirus about it, no response, BIG surprise.

They could at least have a 'go back 10 seconds' button. But oh well. I won't use it after this month. The sooner, the better. I'm enjoying Oprah Radio too much.

[grano salis]

Obama is NOT a reptilian (clearly he a Gray.)

Technically, he is only 1/2 gray.

[Goodpumba]

Thank you =)

Auto correct on these Obama phones just isnt cutting it 

now that is funny!

[Jnthn932]

Technically, he is only 1/2 gray.

HAHA

[IcicleTrepan]

I remember one Noory event, where a caller led him on a multi-night charade claiming to have trapped a small dinosaur in a cage.  The final piece of this event was when the guy sent Noory a pic of it.  It was a toy dinosaur in a dog cage.  He bought it hook line and sinker up till then.

[tertiaryimam]

They could at least have a 'go back 10 seconds' button. But oh well. I won't use it after this month. The sooner, the better. I'm enjoying Oprah Radio too much.

Oprah goes to the same laundramat I do. One time she came in and bought us all a new Pontiac G6s, but it turned out we had to pay taxes on them so I was like, "Fuck that shit, Oprah. You can keep your damn car." I prefer Ellen.

[dortmunder]

Actually they told me it worked Worldwide. I have that in writing. They also said The U.S. and Canada. Yes it
is my fault for not investigating the troubles anybody can read about but I was putting all my effort and time
into everything show related. 20/20 vision is so much more clear when looking into the past.

                                                                                                                           Art

It's much better when looking to the future. Lets all do that. Hope you beat that NC soon, Art. Then I can get back to playing Civ while listening to you chew out Hoagland 

[malachi.martini]

A fully formed adult man said that.  And someone pays him.

lolol

[tertiaryimam]

I remember one Noory event, where a caller led him on a multi-night charade claiming to have trapped a small dinosaur in a cage.  The final piece of this event was when the guy sent Noory a pic of it.  It was a toy dinosaur in a dog cage.  He bought it hook line and sinker up till then.

God please tell me you have audio of that

[Uncle Duke]

I disagree with everything you say, Uncle Duke, but I'll die for your right to say it.

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I can live with that.

[retired41]

yes its on the net

[DarKPenguiN]

Technically, he is only 1/2 gray.

hahahahahahahahaha

-Best comment on the internet. =)

[retired41]

but only through sirius

[dortmunder]

DP is a Premiere Radio shill.....

It shoooorizzzz!

[retired41]

just made a pot of cat shit coffee

[IcicleTrepan]

God please tell me you have audio of that

I really wish I did, I had a good laugh at it, must have been I'm thinking 2003-2004-ish.  I was working at a new job at the time and I remember clearly showing the picture from the coast website to my coworker and we had a laugh about it.

[retired41]

its purrin  good