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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 07:13:24 AM

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lonevoice

Quote from: Surmo on November 07, 2013, 01:23:41 PM
I dont know if I am at a wake, a deathbed or the birth of a new child.
Post of the day.  So far.

tertiaryimam

Quote from: lightningline on November 07, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
I think Art is more driven than ever now...he will be back. The thing is he did not want to compete with C2C...I don't think he cares anymore. No compete with Sirius is much different....C2C still was going on. If Sirius dumps Dark Matter what will he be competing against? Nothing.....20 old shows?...come on. Art will get out of this or they will give in. If they do it is a win for everyone....Art will be on Sattelite, Regular radio (if they sell the show like C2C) and the internet literally world wide!!! Serius would be foolish not to agree. More listeners to one show than they have subscribers could happen easily, and it will....Keep the faith Dark Riders .....

I apologize in advance if you already know this but when we say "non-compete" we're referring to a contract art signed where Sirius would sue his Scottish ass if he broadcasts so much as a healthy guffaw for the next 2, long, dark years.

Just so we're clear.

Quote from: lightningline on November 07, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
I think Art is more driven than ever now...he will be back. The thing is he did not want to compete with C2C...I don't think he cares anymore. No compete with Sirius is much different....C2C still was going on. If Sirius dumps Dark Matter what will he be competing against? Nothing.....20 old shows?...come on. Art will get out of this or they will give in. If they do it is a win for everyone....Art will be on Sattelite, Regular radio (if they sell the show like C2C) and the internet literally world wide!!! Serius would be foolish not to agree. More listeners to one show than they have subscribers could happen easily, and it will....Keep the faith Dark Riders .....

He wouldn't be on AM/FM radio, Art has already stated that he would stay exclusive to SiriusXM except for a live Dark Matter stream on his website with the backlog available through On Demand on the SiriusXM app/web player if they accept the latest offer.

Quote from: Coz on November 07, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
And it's accurate. Go price the bandwidth in a datacenter to handle over 100,000 streams at 32k.

You're an idiot.

You're so tech savvy!  When you flaunt bandwidth math, and a mildly competent history with technology, I just swoon.

jazmunda

Quote from: Wilderness on November 07, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
Not looking good with the removal of prior shows and DM schedule et a.

Art totally mishandled this.  In hindsight ( which is great ) he should have continued on with the show and negotiated in the background.. and if that fell through, then quit.

I wonder if Art has thought about his tactics..

If he still enjoys hosting he has probably hosed himself.

There are always plenty more shows that want to get on to Sirius...

Perhaps he thought he had a better hand. I know I've played poker before and thought I was pretty confident when I went all in only to be beaten by a better hand.

SpooksKFC

Quote from: Coz on November 07, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
And it's accurate. Go price the bandwidth in a datacenter to handle over 100,000 streams at 32k.

An alternate way of doing it would be with StreamerP2P.  Instead of streaming to everyone from one server, everyone who listens helps stream it to other people.


midnight

Quote from: dortmunder on November 07, 2013, 03:06:35 PM
Or maybe this is more apropos....kinda how I feel checking Art's website every 30 seconds...

What's He Building?

Oh My Gosh that is a perfect one!

aldousburbank

Mommy, is Daddy coming home tonight, or are we still mad at him?



widespread1

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 07, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
You're so tech savvy!  When you flaunt bandwidth math, and a mildly competent history with technology, I just swoon.
me too  :-*

lightningline

Quote from: SixWeekTenure on November 07, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
He wouldn't be on AM/FM radio, Art has already stated that he would stay exclusive to SiriusXM except for a live Dark Matter stream on his website with the backlog available through On Demand on the SiriusXM app/web player if they accept the latest offer.
I understand....it is just something they could do if they wanted..like Alex Jones show.

ziznak

Quote from: Coz on November 07, 2013, 03:17:20 PM
They could get a court order to block his streaming in the states.

Pretty simple to do.

And again I'm not convinced, having designed systems that do streaming, that Art can internally, or contractually, acquire the bandwidth or server capacity,  to do better than Sirius.

So the real issue is the "freeness". He blames the loss of subscribers on stream failure. Personally I think a lot of people are not interested in paying for his show.

Streaming fails all the time. I do a live show that draws 100 live viewers on justin... 3% of them report problems... and we take calls.

So I see this from another perspective. Thank god for youtube replays.... those rarely fail due to the huge buffer that is available.
I would change my ip everytime I go online just to listen to Art

Coz

Quote from: SpooksKFC on November 07, 2013, 03:22:47 PM
An alternate way of doing it would be with StreamerP2P.  Instead of streaming to everyone from one server, everyone who listens helps stream it to other people.

The latency with P2P is horrible and less reliable because you are using many redundant, but ultimately unreliable peers.

lonevoice

Quote from: zeebo on November 07, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
I'm envisioning it would be like Comic-Con but the people really look that way in real life and they carry real swords and speak to each other in some kind of klingonesque rant language.
Exactly this! Hahaha!

BattyBrooke

Quote from: Coz on November 07, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
And it's accurate. Go price the bandwidth in a datacenter to handle over 100,000 streams at 32k.

You're an idiot.

Interesting how malichi bows down to you (a man) but was all macho man vicious with me (a woman). Is he a man or a mouse? His interaction with you, vs his with me, proves the latter.

midnight

Quote from: jazmunda on November 07, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
Perhaps he thought he had a better hand. I know I've played poker before and thought I was pretty confident when I went all in only to be beaten by a better hand.

Me too, but it didn't keep me from playing poker again.  Maybe go for 2 out of 3 or something like that?

lightningline

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 07, 2013, 03:21:11 PM
I apologize in advance if you already know this but when we say "non-compete" we're referring to a contract art signed where Sirius would sue his Scottish ass if he broadcasts so much as a healthy guffaw for the next 2, long, dark years.

Just so we're clear.

Clear as a Bell...no pun intended. I meant "if" he gets out of it somehow....or if they work together the show has a lot of potential.

aldousburbank

Quote from: NIN2 on November 07, 2013, 03:15:58 PM
What is Time?

the past is only in your memories and the future is only in your imagination. So if you want an accurate clock it should say NOW
I get it. Cuz it would be right twice a day?

widespread1

Quote from: BattyBrooke on November 07, 2013, 03:24:24 PM
Interesting how malichi bows down to you (a man) but was all macho man vicious with me (a woman). Is he a man or a mouse? His interaction with you, vs his with me, proves the latter.
I believe he was being sarcastic.

SpooksKFC

Quote from: Coz on November 07, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
The latency with P2P is horrible and less reliable because you are using many redundant, but ultimately unreliable peers.

Can be, but hey it's free.

Coz

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 07, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
You're so tech savvy!  When you flaunt bandwidth math, and a mildly competent history with technology, I just swoon.

LOL!

Go do your homework and produce some numbers little boy. I know what it costs. Show us your brilliant analysis of the cost of bandwidth, peering, node strategies and topology.

Go now! Report back after your graduate degree!!

AppealPlay

Really would love an update for someone official...

Coz

Quote from: SpooksKFC on November 07, 2013, 03:26:11 PM
Can be, but hey it's free.

So was sex with my ex wife. But I dumped her ass :)

Mhayhurst

I could listen to this stream all day, especially if it's Kaku. Who knows what incarnation of "the show" could live on the site. Maybe there will be a 24 hour stream of randomness with visits by Art.

Bigfoot

Quote from: BattyBrooke on November 07, 2013, 03:24:24 PM
Interesting how malichi bows down to you (a man) but was all macho man vicious with me (a woman). Is he a man or a mouse? His interaction with you, vs his with me, proves the latter.

waaaah I'm female on the internet and I expect special treatment!

get over it

The General

Quote from: SomeVelvetMorning on November 07, 2013, 03:12:49 PM
Kaku is talking about time.  Maybe he has invented a time travel device and we can all go back to 1996.  Or maybe Kaku will take Art's spot with Art as his permanent sidekick?
"Time is like a reever, like a flowing reever, flowing... imagine time like a flowing reever ever flowing like a reever."

IcicleTrepan

Here's a sobering thought.. Kaku was the first guest on Dark Matter.. and now..  perhaps he's the last thing we'll hear from Art?

jazmunda

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 07, 2013, 03:22:52 PM
Mommy, is Daddy coming home tonight, or are we still mad at him?

Daddy just went to the store to get a pack of cigarettes. He'll be back any minute now. Daddy?

I recognized Aphex Twin as the background music in this Kaku bit

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