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Started by MV/Liberace!, February 08, 2012, 08:50:42 AM

albrecht

The earth is always changing. We were told many years ago the oceans were acid and there were volcanoes erupting in many places. Maybe we are experiencing some "warming," as have happened in the past, as have ice-ages, so we learned that climate changes? Breaking news! Climate, like just about everything else, experiences changes! Everyone like Gore focuses on making money off of sanctions/taxation/regulation to try to stop natural processes, that humans might have some impact, or on the possible negatives.

Why not focus on possible benefits of the "warming:" increased crop yields due to longer growing times and more expanded acreage available for crops, more CO2 which plants need to live, free NW passage (so quicker and cheaper shipping,) more access/easier to drill for oil, gas, a minerals in formerly frozen regions, less demand for heating oil and natural gas in winter time, etc. I'm sure there are some other benefits or things to be exploited during this next "warming" period before it changes back to maybe another ice-age or other climate change.

theONE

Quote from: albrecht on October 14, 2016, 11:12:05 AM
The earth is always changing. We were told many years ago the oceans were acid and there were volcanoes erupting in many places. Maybe we are experiencing some "warming," as have happened in the past, as have ice-ages, so we learned that climate changes? Breaking news! Climate, like just about everything else, experiences changes! Everyone like Gore focuses on making money off of sanctions/taxation/regulation to try to stop natural processes, that humans might have some impact, or on the possible negatives.

Why not focus on possible benefits of the "warming:" increased crop yields due to longer growing times and more expanded acreage available for crops, more CO2 which plants need to live, free NW passage (so quicker and cheaper shipping,) more access/easier to drill for oil, gas, a minerals in formerly frozen regions, less demand for heating oil and natural gas in winter time, etc. I'm sure there are some other benefits or things to be exploited during this next "warming" period before it changes back to maybe another ice-age or other climate change.

In the Bible in the Book of Revelation most of what you are talking about is very well described how our Earth will look in the future
after massive changes -including- purification of all that solid and chemical waste by ..fire !!
How else God can get rid of all that solid and chemical pollution that we created, ..only by FIRE

It's such a shame that we as technologically advanced beings are spending massive amounts of money on space programs,
going there and polluting already with all kinds of flying crap, and will be polluting even more when /and if/ we will fly to Mars.
Can you imagine if even 25% of that money we spend on space programs was spent on developing technologies to take care of ALL forms
of pollution and waste materials we create, ..so we don't have oceans covered in plastic and massive numbers of land fields with all sorts of crap in it.

I'M SHOCKED that The Cosmic-Intergalactic Confederation allowed us to fly into the space, I would shoot down every our racket with message saying
...first clean up your own mess on Planet Earth - use your technology for dealing with pollution that you are creating
then you as humanity will be allowed to explore the space.

But no, we are ignorant about it,...that's OK - The Almighty GOD will take care of His jewel of a Planet, and will clean it ...by FIRE !!!

"The Book Of Revelation (Full Movie)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAb2hdQneBY

theONE

"Book of Daniel" in The Bible is also good source of info on The New EARTH

Juan

The climate has always changed.  Florida was once underwater.  Anartica was once a green paradise.  The earth changes. 

Rix Gins

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 14, 2016, 11:02:25 AM
How much money does the government want to take away from me and where does government want to insert to itself on climate change? Outside of that, couldn't give a fuck less about it.

I think climate change is such a scam.

I respect everyones opinion and I'm not condemning anyone. But whenever someone starts going off on climate change, especially in a political context, my eyes roll up into my skull and I realize they're trying to fuck me out of something either consciously or unconsciously.

My biggest laugh from the second debate was HillNasty saying climate change is our biggest problem.

I look for a tax on it once Hillary becomes president.  Not killer, probably just three or four bucks taken out of our paychecks.  You see, it can't be too hefty of a bite out of our wallets because we will also be supporting reparations for Black folk.  Yet another two or three dollars gone.

I hardly ever weigh in on the climate debate because the principal cause of it is hardly ever mentioned...over population.  I make this blanket statement but I'm not a scientest and am open for correction.  It's just odd to me how everybody wants to cut back on industry/auto emissions and that airplane's carbon prints and those farting cows over there, but nobody ever says stop having too many kids because our poor planet won't be able to sustain everyone.  I'm no expert, so I ask... Is overpopulation a prime cause of global climate change?  If so, how do we go about getting the people of the world to have fewer kids?

Jackstar

Quote from: Rix Gins on October 14, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
I hardly ever weigh in on the climate debate because the principal cause of it is hardly ever mentioned...over population. 

https://youtu.be/9ipgyo9Obnw


Quote from: Rix Gins on October 14, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
once Hillary becomes president. 

Chemical ice nucleation is a powerful technology, but not literally capable of freezing Hell over.

onan

Quote from: Rix Gins on October 14, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
I look for a tax on it once Hillary becomes president.  Not killer, probably just three or four bucks taken out of our paychecks.  You see, it can't be too hefty of a bite out of our wallets because we will also be supporting reparations for Black folk.  Yet another two or three dollars gone.

I hardly ever weigh in on the climate debate because the principal cause of it is hardly ever mentioned...over population.  I make this blanket statement but I'm not a scientest and am open for correction.  It's just odd to me how everybody wants to cut back on industry/auto emissions and that airplane's carbon prints and those farting cows over there, but nobody ever says stop having too many kids because our poor planet won't be able to sustain everyone.  I'm no expert, so I ask... Is overpopulation a prime cause of global climate change?  If so, how do we go about getting the people of the world to have fewer kids?

Ya know, I dunno. Certainly overpopulation puts stressors on communities and governments. That in turn increases demand on food production...

There is a correlation with carbon dioxide increasing with the increase in industrialization. That increase measures very closely with increasing temperatures.


Catsmile

Quote from: onan on October 14, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
Here is my problem man, Science has been politicized but you have not. I get it, when information contradicts our belief systems, in general, we dig our heels in, I get it.

What if it were disclosed that (Rush, Trump, Cruz) Billy Meier, Ron L. Hubbard, or Jesus delivered the information. During a divine encounter, while speaking in tongues. Would such revelations provide for more acceptance, and a smoother discourse?

The Scientific Method, being man made is fallible. The old fatal crux argument. Science and Belief are both man made notions. Hence both equally suffer from the same fatal crux. Belief Systems however appeal from some infallible higher power perspective. Therefore Pleiadians, Thetans, or God state unassailable facts. Any appeal questioning Higher Powers, or All Loving Sky Beings will entail some wrath, of ones own making.

With the above in mind, it's hard to overlook one fact. Most man-made objects were forged from, or improved upon using the scientific method. Without the scientific method we would still exist as crude, illiterate, ignorant, hand to mouth agrarians or nomads, who clubs pussy on the hoof. Oh wait... that currently still applies, in some groups; sadly.

Lets try putting it into perspective using history. Once upon a time Muslims were the pinnacle of Mathematics and Science. During this time they thrived, and won many converts. Until one day, they turned their backs on the Scientific Method. Instead, they chose the path of steadfastly clinging to Dogma alone. How well is that working out today? The consequences of turning your back on the scientific method has manifested itself clearly; within a subset of current Muslim Ideologies.

The Scientific Method is flawed, as are Belief Systems. What human endeavor isn't flawed? However the Scientific Method is a system built around correcting errors, seeking factual data. The same can't be said for Dogma or Belief Systems. Until higher powers provide a better tool than Belief, or Dogma. The Scientific Method is the best tool mere mortals have to work with. Unless you want to go on a Technological Jihad, which will eventually throw us backwards a thousand years or more.

onan

Quote from: Catsmile on October 14, 2016, 06:39:33 PM


Lets try putting it into perspective using history. Once upon a time Muslims were the pinnacle of Mathematics and Science. During this time they thrived, and won many converts. Until one day, they turned their backs on the Scientific Method. Instead, they chose the path of steadfastly clinging to Dogma alone. How well is that working out today? The consequences of turning your back on the scientific method has manifested itself clearly; within a subset of current Muslim Ideologies.


Let's not forget the medieval Christian church in ~1000 CE, started to grow, significantly plus the crusades. And the Mongols pressed almost to Egypt and during that time Bagdad was sacked and the greatest library of the time was burned. Lots of destabilizing factors helped to turn a science minded culture into current ideologies.

Catsmile

Quote from: onan on October 14, 2016, 07:07:06 PM
Let's not forget the medieval Christian church in ~1000 CE, started to grow, significantly plus the crusades. And the Mongols pressed almost to Egypt and during that time Bagdad was sacked and the greatest library of the time was burned. Lots of destabilizing factors helped to turn a science minded culture into current ideologies.

Agreed. I grossly over simplified an already dull wall of text. All of those details were beyond the scope of the point I was trying to convey.

Belief systems, and ignorance destroying hard earned scientific and cultural knowledge thoughout history, must be stopped. Destruction of the Alexandrian library, still has me butthurt.  :(

Quote from: Catsmile on October 14, 2016, 09:14:23 PM
Destruction of the Alexandrian library, still has me butthurt.  :(

You and me both.  Think of the knowledge and history we lost. :'(


pate



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ufo-expert-found-dead-days-9058279

In a chilling text message to his mum just days before his death, Max wrote: "Your boy's in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate."

His unexplained death, and its subsequent treatment by the authorities, has left many online followers convinced he was killed by government agents

Relatives fear Max's dark investigations into UFOs and government cover-ups may have made him enemies who wanted him dead


Max Spiers, 39, a father to two boys, was found dead on a sofa in Poland, where he had gone to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs.

He was ruled to have died from natural causes despite no post-mortem examination being carried out on his body.

More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 16, 2016, 06:46:02 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ufo-expert-found-dead-days-9058279

In a chilling text message to his mum just days before his death, Max wrote: "Your boy's in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate."

His unexplained death, and its subsequent treatment by the authorities, has left many online followers convinced he was killed by government agents

Relatives fear Max's dark investigations into UFOs and government cover-ups may have made him enemies who wanted him dead


Max Spiers, 39, a father to two boys, was found dead on a sofa in Poland, where he had gone to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs.

He was ruled to have died from natural causes despite no post-mortem examination being carried out on his body.

More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment.

I've never heard of him so I checked out a video of his and this guy is into what I would call all encompassing woo. His theories not only include government conspiracies and reptilian aliens but even bigfoot, et al. I think there probably are alien lifeforms that are visiting or have visited our planet and Wikileaks is certainly showing us that there's no shortage of actual government conspiracy but whenever someone presents this way, as in I've got the big picture all figured out. and it includes or at least touches on almost every paranormal subject you've ever heard of, I'm always highly suspect. He did not seem very credible to me.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 17, 2016, 03:05:58 AM
I've never heard of him so I checked out a video of his and this guy is into what I would call all encompassing woo. His theories not only include government conspiracies and reptilian aliens but even bigfoot, et al. I think there probably are alien lifeforms that are visiting or have visited our planet and Wikileaks is certainly showing us that there's no shortage of actual government conspiracy but whenever someone presents this way, as in I've got the big picture all figured out. and it includes or at least touches on almost every paranormal subject you've ever heard of, I'm always highly suspect. He did not seem very credible to me.

He's been around for a little while and I think he may have been on C2C a time or two. I really can't remember where I've heard him. I completely stopped listening to C2C a couple years ago but it's been at least that long since I've heard him interviewed, wherever it was.

Assuming that he was murdered, it doesn't matter whether he was fully credible or not. Apparently, he hit on something credible or they wouldn't have offed him. As I said, assuming that he really was murdered. Regardless, there's very good reason to look into his death being there was no sign of trauma and he seemed to be a relatively healthy young man.

WE NEED A GLOBAL REBELLION AGAINST THE BIRD-LIKE REPTILIAN SHAPESHIFTING ALPHA DRACONIANS, THE ILLUMINATI, AND CORPORATE OLIGARCHY!



Kinninigan has information about these evil reptilians. They are avian-like.

VIVA LA REBELLION! VIVA LA REVOLUITION! VIVA LA EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS!

albrecht

Obama promises to continue the destruction of the country, sorry "fundamental change," even after he has left office in cohoots with Holder and the other usual suspects. In one of his plans is to manipulate voting districts to attempt to get One-Party State:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-holder-redistricting-gerrymandering-229868



mikuthing01

Did you hear about the active shooter at the university of Cincinnati? Neither did anyone else because the shooter was black LULZ maybe next one will be a white guy so the MSM can run with it and maybe bring in some crisis actors to ham it up.

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5347

albrecht

Quote from: mikuthing01 on October 17, 2016, 06:04:58 PM
Did you hear about the active shooter at the university of Cincinnati? Neither did anyone else because the shooter was black LULZ maybe next one will be a white guy so the MSM can run with it and maybe bring in some crisis actors to ham it up.

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5347

Yeah. I did see some short mention of some mass shooting by black "Jamaican nationals," no mention of legal status, in the LA area the other day but no national coverage or follow up for likely the same reason. Black Shooter or Black Victim (unless by cop, even a black cop)=Less Coverage, especially if they might be illegal. I thought smoking weed was supposed to chill everyone out why are Jamaican nationals shooting up places?
Having said that local shootings should be just that. Unless there truly is some terrorist aspect, a foreign national aspect, an illegal alien aspect, or some other reason (like really big, coordinated attacks, or something political) crime should be a local deal. The national press plays them up for their anti-gun agenda regardless of circumstances- so the less coverage the better. Plus if we made every black shooter national news there would be no time for any other news.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Astrid Galactic on October 17, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
He's been around for a little while and I think he may have been on C2C a time or two. I really can't remember where I've heard him. I completely stopped listening to C2C a couple years ago but it's been at least that long since I've heard him interviewed, wherever it was.

Assuming that he was murdered, it doesn't matter whether he was fully credible or not. Apparently, he hit on something credible or they wouldn't have offed him. As I said, assuming that he really was murdered. Regardless, there's very good reason to look into his death being there was no sign of trauma and he seemed to be a relatively healthy young man.

Oh, yeah...I agree. It's too bad no autopsy was done because based on his behavior and speech patterns on the video I saw my bet would be opiate overdose. I'm not even trolling when I say that or trying to be controversial. It was my honest impression of him. Well, either way it's really too bad a father of two was struck down in his prime like that.

albrecht

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 17, 2016, 06:31:06 PM
Oh, yeah...I agree. It's too bad no autopsy was done because based on his behavior and speech patterns on the video I saw my bet would be opiate overdose. I'm not even trolling when I say that or trying to be controversial. It was my honest impression of him. Well, either way it's really too bad a father of two was struck down in his prime like that.
The latest is "vomiting black liquid" and "sacrificed by satanists." Regardless of what happened an autopsy or coroner's inquest or whatever procedures they do there should be done and sucks for his kids and family.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/british-ufo-expert-orlando-bloom-9067330






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