President Donald J. Trump

[21st Century Man]

The cultural shift has begun.

From Mark Wahlberg of all people.

During a luncheon to promote his new film Patriot’s Day, the actor was asked if he talked about politics. “No,” said the former rapper and that other celebrities shouldn’t either, reported the website Task and Purpose on Tuesday.

“A lot of celebrities did, do, and shouldn’t,” Wahlberg said to Task and Purpose, a website dedicated to veterans.

“You know, it just goes to show you that people aren’t listening to that anyway,” Wahlberg continued. “They might buy your CD or watch your movie, but you don’t put food on their table. You don’t pay their bills. A lot of Hollywood is living in a bubble. They’re pretty out of touch with the common person, the everyday guy out there providing for their family. Me, I’m very aware of the real world. I come from the real world, and I exist in the real world. And although I can navigate Hollywood and I love the business and the opportunities it’s afforded me, I also understand what it’s like not to have all that.”

http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/11/30/mark-wahlberg-celebrities-need-shut-politics/

Good man.  I'm glad a few of them have at least one foot in the real world.

[CornyCrow]

Never Trump! Unless he's buying me dinner.

I've never had frog's legs.

[CornyCrow]

Haha, me too! I've never seen Mitt show so much emotion. He looks like he's about to cry.

Whenever I see Mitt I think of his poor dog and how insensitive he was.  I don't think a normal person would have done that to the household pet, which for most of us is like another child.  There has to be something wrong with that guy.

[Juan]

Not to mention his killing people with cancer.

[Yorkshire pud]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/30/donald-trump-george-monbiot-misinformation?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=202244&subid=11301906&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Over this time, I have watched as tobacco, coal, oil, chemicals and biotech companies have poured billions of dollars into an international misinformation machine composed of thinktanks, bloggers and fake citizens’ groups. Its purpose is to portray the interests of billionaires as the interests of the common people, to wage war against trade unions and beat down attempts to regulate business and tax the very rich. Now the people who helped run this machine are shaping the government.

Among those I clashed with was Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI). The CEI calls itself a thinktank, but looks to me like a corporate lobbying group. It is not transparent about its funding, but we now know it has received $2m from ExxonMobil, more than $4m from a group called the Donors Trust (which represents various corporations and billionaires), $800,000 from groups set up by the tycoons Charles and David Koch, and substantial sums from coal, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies.

[ItsOver]

I've never had frog's legs.

They're excellent.  They really do taste similar to chicken, only more delicate.  They need to be fresh, lightly breaded, and not overcooked.  Delightful.

[ItsOver]

Not to mention his killing people with cancer.

Big meanie. 

[chefist]

They're excellent.  They really do taste similar to chicken, only more delicate.  They need to be fresh, lightly breaded, and not overcooked.  Delightful.

I often went frog gigging with my bothers when I was a kid...shine a light in their eyes, they go catatonic, then gig them...mom would bread and fry the legs...AMAZING!

We would use the body for fish and trap bait...

We had a trident and on of these:

[ItsOver]

I often with frog gigging with my bothers when I was a kid...shine a light in their eyes, they go catatonic, then gig them...mom would bread and fry the legs...AMAZING!

Yep.  I remember having them as a kid, accompanying some freshly-picked morels.  I've eaten frog legs a number of times since, but the fresh morels don't come as easily. 

[chefist]

Yep.  I remember having them as a kid, accompanying some freshly-picked morels.  I've eaten frog legs a number of times since, but the fresh morels don't come as easily. 

Yea, we would measure them by the "bread sack" unit. 5-6 bread sacks was a good day mushroom hunting. Mom fried those too...pure ecstasy...

[SredniVashtar]

You and I obviously hold very different social/political views. The term 'Leftist' has only become relevant to me during this election. For me, it's a very RELATIVE term. I see it as a directional signal and you seem to see it, for some reason, as a pejorative term.

I used to think in political terms of just democrats and republicans but discovered that they were not definitive enough to truly understand someone else's political POV. I have repeatedly found common ground with family, friends, and acquaintances and realized that the only difference was whether we checked a 'D' or an 'R' on our voter registrations.

It's just how I see things relative to my perspective. To state that my use of the term 'leftist' is always a pejorative is an unfortunate, sophomoric oversimplification.

You're being incredibly dishonest here. You only ever use 'leftist' to convey scorn in one way or another. And you only used 'unfortunate, sophomoric, oversimplification' because you think it sounds like a decent put-down, not because it actually carries any information in it. Like so many of your views, they are cliched, hand-me-down, and a bit dull.

Part of the problem of discussions like this is that they are often not very interesting, because too many people aren't prepared to accept that they don't have all the answers. Unless there's a reasonable chance that I might learn something from somebody else then I tend to zone out. You didn't address any of the substantive points I raised, but  instead gave me a lot of waffle about your 'perspective'. I don't really care about your perspective if you are going to use  that to hide behind a lot of tendentious posturing.

If you insist that I use 'leftist' as a pejorative attack on someone I don't even know, then intellectual honesty (low IQ or not) would demand that you append my offensive term to the following list. Those playing at home, please feel free to sort this list according to level of perceived offense and repost. 

Praise MV!

Using the term 'leftist' isn't offensive, it's just boring and predictable. It would be too embarrassing to elaborate further here. I don't want to be insulting.

PS- I'm only guessing at this because apparently I'm not that smart.

Now you're starting to make sense. We were bound to get there in the end.

I guess the biggest irony about Herr Trump is that he was elected via the electoral college, when previously the only way that most of his supporters got into any sort of college was if they were employed as a janitor.

[CornyCrow]

They're excellent.  They really do taste similar to chicken, only more delicate.  They need to be fresh, lightly breaded, and not overcooked.  Delightful.

You'd think, because of all the exercise those legs get, that they'd be sinewy and tough.  I'm thinking of the massaging of Kobe beef which is supposed to tenderize the meat. 

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Tiffany Trump Caught Smoking Pot at NYC BDSM Club. 

https://theamericantribune.org/posts/tiffany-trump-caught-smoking-pot-in-new-york-nightclub

Melina and Tiffany should hang out, they'd probably dig each other.

[Yorkshire pud]

Tiffany Trump Caught Smoking Pot at NYC BDSM Club. 

https://theamericantribune.org/posts/tiffany-trump-caught-smoking-pot-in-new-york-nightclub

Melina and Tiffany should hang out, they'd probably dig each other.

It'll sit well with Christian right wing zealots who would like to decide how people have consensual sex.  . I wonder what her dad will be saying.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

It'll sit well with Christian right wing zealots who would like to decide how people have consensual sex.  . I wonder what her dad will be saying.

The next four years are going to be fun. 

[Juan]

How do we know this is not one of the fake news sites you lefties are screaming about recently?  Or does the subject matter determine whether the site is fake or not?

[Yorkshire pud]

How do we know this is not one of the fake news sites you lefties are screaming about recently?  Or does the subject matter determine whether the site is fake or not?

This is definitly fake; Breitbart aren't at all butt hurt about it!

Breitbart News Network is seeing some of its advertisers head for the exit doors and is responding in typical Breitbart fashion: by going on the counteroffensive, labeling one of them as “un-American” and calling it a war on conservatism.

Since Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, Los Angeles-based Breitbart has experienced a backlash from some advertisers who say that the online site conflicts with their corporate values.

Yeah, they're not worried at all. 

The company said Wednesday that Kellogg’s decision “will make virtually no revenue impact.” It said the move by Kellogg and other companies represents an escalation in the war “against conservative customers whose values propelled Donald Trump into the White House.”

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-breitbart-kelloggs-advertisers-20161130-story.html

[Yorkshire pud]

How do we know this is not one of the fake news sites you lefties are screaming about recently?  Or does the subject matter determine whether the site is fake or not?

Of course; anything anti Clinton, Stein, Obama, Santa Claus no matter how proposterous is true. Any criticism or admitted buffoonery of/by Trump is misinformed or a lie. Simple. Even if he's admitted it in a video. Such as his pledge to introduce internet censorship and limit press reporting of figures in positions of power.

[SciFiAuthor]

The word 'leftist' isn't one that I use, and I don't think many people with any sense use it either. You just use it to refer to anybody you don't like, the sort of lazy pejoratives that are all too common over there these days. It was only used, as far as I know, to describe revolutionary movements (eg, the Spanish civil war) not some kids on a university campus protesting Halloween costumes. Every time you use the word 'leftist' in any other way you leak IQ points.

You can have the technical definition of Socialism, which is the idea that the means of production are in the hands of the people via the state. I think, broadly, the definition of the left is much more fluid, and is about trying to restrain the excesses of capitalism, giving a voice to sections of society that have been neglected, together with a fundamental idea that society can be improved rather than just retaining the status quo.

A vote for Trump is just vote for all the moneyed interests that are trying to pull the strings. Just look at the woman he's put in charge of education, a billionaire who wants to push a religious agenda. Whatever the faults of the left - and they are many - all you get from the right is the same old stuff which will benefit a few people at the expense of the disadvantaged.

I love the word "leftist". It allows one to generalize and do away with minor distinctions so you can actually discuss a subject in a broad big picture sense. Likewise I like the term "right-winger" just as much, and wear the label proudly whenever someone plants it on me. I'm actually a centrist and classical humanist, but I don't fight the label because at the end of the day I know that I fit in the broad category of being a right-winger.

No one is the same. Because of that, we can categorize people all the way down to the individual. This is already happening, one can head to YouTube or Buzzfeed and find all sorts of batshit crazies that refuse to accept such basic conventions as male and female pronouns and invent their own and then change them the week after when their mood changes.

We must accept broader categories when they make sense in a discussion. If we don't, then we can't discuss anything broadly. Which, incidentally, seems to be a goal of many leftists. They seem to want to shut down broad discussion. I refuse.

[SciFiAuthor]

Tiffany Trump Caught Smoking Pot at NYC BDSM Club. 

https://theamericantribune.org/posts/tiffany-trump-caught-smoking-pot-in-new-york-nightclub

Melina and Tiffany should hang out, they'd probably dig each other.

There's a black sheep in every family lol.

[chefist]

There's a black sheep in every family lol.

I wonder if she grabbed anyone by the pussy?

[SciFiAuthor]

I wonder if she grabbed anyone by the pussy?

I dunno, but a 23 year-old ex-model into leather and pot sure sounds like fun.

[Yorkshire pud]

I love the word "leftist". It allows one to generalize and do away with minor distinctions so you can actually discuss a subject in a broad big picture sense. Likewise I like the term "right-winger" just as much, and wear the label proudly whenever someone plants it on me. I'm actually a centrist and classical humanist, but I don't fight the label because at the end of the day I know that I fit in the broad category of being a right-winger.

No one is the same. Because of that, we can categorize people all the way down to the individual. This is already happening, one can head to YouTube or Buzzfeed and find all sorts of batshit crazies that refuse to accept such basic conventions as male and female pronouns and invent their own and then change them the week after when their mood changes.

We must accept broader categories when they make sense in a discussion. If we don't, then we can't discuss anything broadly. Which, incidentally, seems to be a goal of many leftists. They seem to want to shut down broad discussion. I refuse.

Doing that though not only dilutes any discussion on 'a topic', it classifies people into the 'you're with me, or against me' bullshit. Bush went down that road post 9/11; and look what happened there.

In the UK, a couple of years after Thatcher took office in 79, her government's policies started to take effect against some of the very people who put her in office. There was an upsurge of resistance, and otherwise moderate people took a stand against her (they had nothing else to lose by then). I was about 18/19 years old and lucky enough to have a job; 1000's of people in a fifty mile radius had lost theirs, with nothing else to go to.

But the 'broad' aspect was written large by the mainly Tory sympathetic press who lumped the redundant; CND demonstrators;  Equal rights (gay and lesbian) demonstrators; anti police demonstrators and a bucket load of other alleged 'left wing' alliances, that I, actually living among it didn't see or hear about. But in the south of England of course (this is long before twatter/fartbook and the net), the readership just saw what was printed in Murdoch's and Rothermere's rags.

I knew several 'left wing' strong trade union supporters who openly hated homosexuals, black people and the 'hippies' who supported CND. But as far as the printed press was concerned,  they were all lumped together.

[Yorkshire pud]

Trump assembles America's 'richest cabinet'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38168382

US President-elect Donald Trump took a populist tone on the campaign trail, pledging to stand for a beleaguered working class abandoned by the elite. Yet, as he selects his cabinet, observers are already pointing out that he is putting together the richest administration in US history. So far, his choices include a billionaire investor, a woman who married into a retail dynasty and a multi-millionaire banker.

In any other company, Mr Trump's choice for treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, might have been expected to be the richest person in the room.

After 17 years at Goldman Sachs, he founded a hedge fund and later bought a bank that became known for seizing the homes of borrowers who fell behind on mortgage payments. Reports put his wealth at over $40m.

Draining the swamp! 

[Dr. MD MD]

Even if he's admitted it in a video.

pud, you constantly excoriate videos here but if they show Trump in a bad light they're true?! Get yer shit together, sweetie! 

[Yorkshire pud]

pud, you constantly excoriate videos here but if they show Trump in a bad light they're true?! Get yer shit together, sweetie! 

It never occured that the words he speaks might not be him. Is he a ventriloquist's dummy? Maybe he didn't say he didn't want the internet censored? Erm, actually he did. 

[Jackstar]

It never occured that the words he speaks might not be him. Is he a ventriloquist's dummy? Maybe he didn't say he didn't want the internet censored? Erm, actually he did. 

Why is it so much worse for you when Donald Trump lies, than when Tony Blair & David Cameron & Angela Merkel do it?

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouWZIyUEiAc

[Inglorious Bitch]

You and I obviously hold very different social/political views. The term 'Leftist' has only become relevant to me during this election. For me, it's a very RELATIVE term. I see it as a directional signal and you seem to see it, for some reason, as a pejorative term.

snip...


In closing, here are some wise words to live by:

PS- I'm only guessing at this because apparently I'm not that smart, but I think this covers your irony reference from a post or two back. 

LOL, you gave him quite the spanking! I bet he enjoyed it. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Why is it so much worse for you when Donald Trump lies, than when Tony Blair & David Cameron & Angela Merkel do it?

When did I say that? Blair should be hanged; not that I have any strong feelings on the matter. Cameron and Merkel; the first is no longer the PM (please keep up) and Merkel will perhaps be losing her position; don't/didn't have the minds of children, even if I don't agree with any  of their policies.