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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on October 12, 2016, 11:09:00 PM
All can be forgiven and overlooked.  Casio for president!
I don't know who that guy is I avoid that thread. New Jersey is a garden state of cess pool, if that is the guy you are talking about. But MY point was certain people still did a good job, and some not, who were (though the public didn't know) rapists, drunks, addicts, racists, etc. Though, as I mentioned in my caveat, that looking back in time is problematic and assuming our values now apply to that era. Hey, everything is relative, cultural relativism, different strokes for different strokes, etc we are told!

136 or 142

Quote from: GravitySucks on October 12, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
His claim was that her support was 95-97%.

This poll has her at 87%

Is that from the L.A Times poll?

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 08:50:04 PM
"Coffee, Tea, or Me"
https://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Trudy-Jones-Rachel-Baker/dp/B000P17QUG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1476330565&sr=8-3&keywords=coffee%2C+tea%2C+or+me
I think they had several different follow-ups. Not the first time "victims" tried to make money and it is not surprising at all that all of these "victims" are coming out now to do so, maybe. Having said that I'm not supporting rape or sexual assault etc but it comes down, unfortunately, choosing between a criminal, or at least aiding and abetting, a rapist and harasser with so much corruption both within her Party machinations and globally with her Foundation(s) who wants to raise your taxes, take your guns, throw open our borders, import radical terrorists, increase regulations, kill some industries, cede authority to international trade organizations and entities, curb the 1st Amendment, and start more wars or a candidate accused of lewd comments who wants national sovereignty, less taxes, supports the 2nd Amendment (and 1st and others,) less wars, better relations with claimed enemies, less regulations, and actual free trade and not 'free trade' that hurts the country or eliminates our laws.

1.Beam me up, Scotty!

2.Actual free trade is going to hurt some people in the country.  That's the nature of actual free trade.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 11:14:52 PM
I don't know who that guy is I avoid that thread. New Jersey is a garden state of cess pool, if that is the guy you are talking about. But MY point was certain people still did a good job, and some not, who were (though the public didn't know) rapists, drunks, addicts, racists, etc. Though, as I mentioned in my caveat, that looking back in time is problematic and assuming our values now apply to that era. Hey, everything is relative, cultural relativism, different strokes for different strokes, etc we are told!

Ten/ fifteen years ago was a different era, when making sexual referrences to ten year old girls was socially acceptable? Or walking into a dressing room where teenage girls were undressed?

WOTR

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 11:14:52 PM
I don't know who that guy is I avoid that thread. New Jersey is a garden state of cess pool, if that is the guy you are talking about. But MY point was certain people still did a good job, and some not, who were (though the public didn't know) rapists, drunks, addicts, racists, etc. Though, as I mentioned in my caveat, that looking back in time is problematic and assuming our values now apply to that era. Hey, everything is relative, cultural relativism, different strokes for different strokes, etc we are told!
He would be your average, run of the mill, unrepentant pedophile...

I actually find both candidates repugnant.  It has become a sport to watch each side defend their champion.  When I read that we should forgive Trump because all presidents were people, and they all made mistakes it makes me smile and wonder if you are ready to offer the same logic to Hillary.  Yes, she made a mistake by having a server at home... Yes, she possibly lied to the FBI.  But we are all just human and we ought to forgive.

Or does forgiveness of major crimes only extend to your presidential candidate of choice? ;)

albrecht

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 11:20:18 PM
1.Beam me up, Scotty!

2.Actual free trade is going to hurt some people in the country.  That's the nature of actual free trade.
Best line ever uttered in Congress! RIP.

Limit the impact by actual "free trade," not ceding laws, regulations, and sovereignty to international bodies but by private transactions between agreeing parties on trading goods and services that mutually benefit both parties to the trade.

norland2424

Quote from: WOTR on October 12, 2016, 11:29:11 PM
He would be your average, run of the mill, unrepentant pedophile...

I actually find both candidates repugnant.  It has become a sport to watch each side defend their champion.  When I read that we should forgive Trump because all presidents were people, and they all made mistakes it makes me smile and wonder if you are ready to offer the same logic to Hillary.  Yes, she made a mistake by having a server at home... Yes, she possibly lied to the FBI.  But we are all just human and we ought to forgive.

Or does forgiveness of major crimes only extend to your presidential candidate of choice? ;)

lol good to see im not the only one that does this.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2016, 11:25:53 PM
Ten/ fifteen years ago was a different era, when making sexual referrences to ten year old girls was socially acceptable? Or walking into a dressing room where teenage girls were undressed?
No, but your police and society has decided it is. Weird for Muslim groups or pop stars? And some politicians, maybe royals, etc. Sad! 

WOTR

Quote from: norland2424 on October 12, 2016, 11:31:07 PM
lol good to see im not the only one that does this.
It is better than any NFL or NBA game and more entertaining than any WWF wrestling match.  The mental contortions that some people have to resort to are better than any freak show on the midway.

And it all free right here on BG!

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on October 12, 2016, 11:35:07 PM
It is better than any NFL or NBA game and more entertaining than any WWF wrestling match.  The mental contortions that some people have to resort to are better than any freak show on the midway.

And it all free right here on BG!
I don't know about some of them but the NFL is on court record in a case as being "entertainment" in court filings, as I recall.

Quote from: WOTR on October 12, 2016, 11:29:11 PM
He would be your average, run of the mill, unrepentant pedophile...

I actually find both candidates repugnant.  It has become a sport to watch each side defend their champion.  When I read that we should forgive Trump because all presidents were people, and they all made mistakes it makes me smile and wonder if you are ready to offer the same logic to Hillary.  Yes, she made a mistake by having a server at home... Yes, she possibly lied to the FBI.  But we are all just human and we ought to forgive.

Or does forgiveness of major crimes only extend to your presidential candidate of choice? ;)

That is why I say very little in Trumps's defense.  He is indefensible.  However, why all this is coming up now about Trump is befuddling to me.  Everybody knows that Trump has always thought of himself as the shit.  He thinks he is God's gift to women.  He's always been hitting on women and saying shit about women.  Why is this news?  Are people genuinely surprised by any of this?  Now if these were actual rape allegations that would be a whole different kettle of fish.They aren't though.

norland2424

Quote from: WOTR on October 12, 2016, 11:35:07 PM
It is better than any NFL or NBA game and more entertaining than any WWF wrestling match.  The mental contortions that some people have to resort to are better than any freak show on the midway.

And it all free right here on BG!

its a wwf in a house fire and both sides not realazing that they both die at the end.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 11:33:13 PM
No, but your police and society has decided it is. Weird for Muslim groups or pop stars? And some politicians, maybe royals, etc. Sad!

Why are you trying to deflect things away from Trump? Up a creek without a paddle? I think if you look hard enough, the stuff you're mentioning (because it takes attention away from your hero) is going through the legal system/courts now. But as long as you're an apologist for Trump, its okay.

136 or 142

Quote from: Value Of Pi on October 12, 2016, 09:34:44 PM
I was trying to think, after this last debate, what kind of ammo Trump still had left. A lawsuit can't be it so I would imagine whatever it is is in Roger Stone's secret file cabinet. The master file on the Republican leadership, the Democratic leadership and ___________(fill in the blank).

I can't find the article right now, but there was a response on Politico or maybe the Washington Post commenting on John Podesta's opinion that Trump was aware of the WikiLeaks (which are clearly Russian coordinated) that there is no evidence to back that up.

Quote

This article disputes that the WikiLeaks have been proven to be coordinated with the Russian government:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/12/democrats-say-wikileaks-is-a-russian-front-u-s-intelligence-isn-t-so-sure.html

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:38:08 PM
That is why I say very little in Trumps's defense.  He is indefensible.  However, why all this is coming up now about Trump is befuddling to me.  Everybody knows that Trump has always thought of himself as the shit.  He thinks he is God's gift to women.  He's always been hitting on women and saying shit about women.  Why is this news?  Are people genuinely surprised by any of this?  Now if these were actual rape allegations that would be a whole different kettle of fish.They aren't though.

1.Rape is bad but sexual assault isn't?

2.He is indefensible...but I'm still going to vote for him.

theONE

I'm having mixed feelings about so called "famous"people" like for example radio/TV/press personalities
publicly declaring that they don't vote therefore their presentation of Presidential campaigning is neutral and unobstructed
by personal opinion aka being biased.
George Noory is driving that point to the nausea, always almost bragging that he is neutral and that he doesn't vote.

Well, that is not so smart not to vote and on top of it to brag about it possibly influencing your listeners not to vote also.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME he/George is bitching that the system is 'fucked'

Well moron, you didn't vote so shut the fuck UP



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:38:08 PM
That is why I say very little in Trumps's defense.  He is indefensible.  However, why all this is coming up now about Trump is befuddling to me.  Everybody knows that Trump has always thought of himself as the shit.  He thinks he is God's gift to women.  He's always been hitting on women and saying shit about women.  Why is this news?  Are people genuinely surprised by any of this?  Now if these were actual rape allegations that would be a whole different kettle of fish.They aren't though.

That's alright then. Because no-one should be surprised, it means Trump gets a pass because ten year old girls deserve to be leared at if they don't have the intelligence to complain or accept its just 'Donald being Donald'.

136 or 142

Quote from: mikuthing01 on October 12, 2016, 10:20:32 PM
Why does Hillary want WW3 with Russia? When did Democrats become the war mongers?

In all honesty i don't care if Hillary got elected and started WW3 probably because i don't have children and I'm sick of this gay earth.

When did Republicans become appeasers and useless idiots?

WOTR

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:38:08 PM
That is why I say very little in Trumps's defense.... Why is this news?  Are people genuinely surprised by any of this?
I think it is news because while some people followed Trump prior to the presidential run and probably knew what he was- there are others who may not have.  There are likely some people who are surprised to wake up and find that they now have to choose between Hillary and a possible rapist... While the mental gymnastics required to put an X beside the name of a man who is likely guilty of sexual assault may be great- it can be done providing you can just remember that if Hillary gets in she will appoint the supreme court judges.

Like I said- Casio for president.

136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 12, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
I don't fucking get it either? What would the point of war with Russia be? Are the Democrats retarded?

No, but you are.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2016, 11:46:24 PM
That's alright then. Because no-one should be surprised, it means Trump gets a pass because ten year old girls deserve to be leared at if they don't have the intelligence to complain or accept its just 'Donald being Donald'.

Good lord, man.  I would go along with you if it could be proven that Trump wanted to have sex with her at 10 years old.  However, he just made an extremely tacky offhand comment about wanting to check out and maybe dating the girls after they have grown up.  I grant you, if he had a boner when making those comments, that would be extremely disgusting.

theONE

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2016, 11:46:24 PM
That's alright then. Because no-one should be surprised, it means Trump gets a pass because ten year old girls deserve to be leared at if they don't have the intelligence to complain or accept its just 'Donald being Donald'.

OK pud, you spinning same record all the time, it's being as stale as yesterday's tee,
what's your real beef with Trump ??

Because he is lousy "gentlemen" towards women that doesn't mean he could be bad President, maybe he will, who knows at this point, only God knows.
And you pud have no moral reservations of the existing record what your second queen Hillary did already in her political career.

Get real... 

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 11:42:56 PM
1.Rape is bad but sexual assault isn't?

2.He is indefensible...but I'm still going to vote for him.

I never have done any of that but I've seen female servers pinched on the ass at bars like the Tilted Kilt.  What you call assault goes on everyday at these bars.  I don't condone it but it is standard behavior at some of these places especially among the more rambunctious.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:52:37 PM
Good lord, man.  I would go along with you if it could be proven that Trump wanted to have sex with her at 10 years old.  However, he just made an extremely tacky offhand comment about wanting to check out and maybe dating the girls after they have grown up.  I grant you, if he had a boner when making those comments, that would be extremely disgusting.

Tacky? Are you taking the piss? He is suggesting that he'd fuck a twenty year old gir (when she is aged ten) l when he'd have been in his mid fifties; and that is acceptable? I don't even pretend to think his 'dating' would be invited or the physical aspect consensual on her part.

Presumably you'd make the same justification if he wasn't running for POTUS and instead, he was one of those pesky Mexicans?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2016, 11:57:43 PM
Tacky? Are you taking the piss? He is suggesting that he'd fuck a twenty year old gir (when she is aged ten) l when he'd have been in his mid fifties; and that is acceptable? I don't even pretend to think his 'dating' would be invited or the physical aspect consensual on her part.

Presumably you'd make the same justification if he wasn't running for POTUS and instead, he was one of those pesky Mexicans?

So it is not ok for an older man to have sex with a 20 year old?  It happens everyday.  Art Bell being example number one.

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 11:30:30 PM
Best line ever uttered in Congress! RIP.

Limit the impact by actual "free trade," not ceding laws, regulations, and sovereignty to international bodies but by private transactions between agreeing parties on trading goods and services that mutually benefit both parties to the trade.

That's not free trade, those are contractual relations between two private (or publicly traded) businesses.  First, free trade involves consumer goods, second, if there is a government imposed tariff on an input, the businesses involved in the transaction can't simply say "let's ignore the tariff."

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: theONE on October 12, 2016, 11:54:52 PM
OK pud, you spinning same record all the time, it's being as stale as yesterday's tee,
what's your real beef with Trump ??

Because he is lousy "gentlemen" towards women that doesn't mean he could be bad President, maybe he will, who knows at this point, only God knows.
And you pud have no moral reservations of the existing record what your second queen Hillary did already in her political career.

Get real...

Sigh: as I asked MD, Where have I supported Clinton? Show me.

But him being a lousy gentleman would be a compliment. He's a perverted scumbag. You think he should be allowed near women? God has little to do with it; the shit sticks to those who vote for him. He has the morals of a dung heap, but you think he's POTUS material?

theONE

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:55:44 PM
I never have done any of that but I've seen female servers pinched on the ass at bars like the Tilted Kilt.  What you call assault goes on everyday at these bars.  I don't condone it but it is standard behavior at some of these places especially among the more rambunctious.

And let's be real and honest here, many [not all] but many like it.
They like it for two reasons, ..the attention and type of confirmation that they are sexy and desirable, ..and also they know that this means
big tips...
Let's be freaking real about human /women's / -sexuality -sensuality -eroticism

theONE

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:59:53 PM
So it is not ok for an older man to have sex with a 20 year old?  It happens everyday.  Art Bell being example number one.

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Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 12, 2016, 11:59:53 PM
So it is not ok for an older man to have sex with a 20 year old?  It happens everyday.  Art Bell being example number one.

In my view no it isn't if the age difference is that, especially if the pervert has made those intentions when she was ten. You're fine with it?

AB is in the same sewer in my opinion, but is disciples forget that, cos he's a 'radio legend',  and can be forgiven anything.

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