President Donald J. Trump

[albrecht]

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However, this is what a democracy is supposed to be about. Do we want it that way or should we try something else The people were supposed to have a say here, no?

I think the Feds should just about get out of everything except national defense (in which cases our borders are first priority,) some basic judicial stuff when there are disputes between states etc, and some very limited regulation and very basic civil rights oversight, very limited. Everything else should be done at the state and local level, funded however those states or municipalities want to handle it or provide it. And let experimentation happen and learn from each other on policy and make policy based on what the citizens of the States wish and vote for. US is a large country, much bigger than most countries in the world- most of which can still function though small. I'm not saying, in this argument, a breakup, but a devolution to more Constitutional operations with a very limited Federal government and more power to the States, municipalities, and people.

[GravitySucks]

I think the Feds should just about get out of everything except national defense (in which cases our borders are first priority,) some basic judicial stuff when there are disputes between states etc, and some very limited regulation and very basic civil rights oversight, very limited. Everything else should be done at the state and local level, funded however those states or municipalities want to handle it or provide it. And let experimentation happen and learn from each other on policy and make policy based on what the citizens of the States wish and vote for. US is a large country, much bigger than most countries in the world- most of which can still function though small. I'm not saying, in this argument, a breakup, but a devolution to more Constitutional operations with a very limited Federal government and more power to the States, municipalities, and people.

There are about 3 million civil servants guarding the bureaucracy. That includes about 600,000 in the postal service, but does not include the millions of support contractors that shore up the federal agencies. There are over 14,000 civil servants working for the EPA in Washington D.C. alone. you could cut 30% of that in a heartbeat and still have too many rules and regulations being created on a daily basis.

[albrecht]

There are about 3 million civil servants guarding the bureaucracy. That includes about 600,000 in the postal service, but does not include the millions of support contractors that shore up the federal agencies. There are over 14,000 civil servants working for the EPA in Washington D.C. alone. you could cut 30% of that in a heartbeat and still have too many rules and regulations being created on a daily basis.

Yup, and everyday you can go monitor what often unelected bureaucrats in created executive agencies or quasi-governmental institutions are doing. I challenge people to find something that is not subject to some Federal rule, regulation, or law. And though a, slightly, different subject the tax code: the bloated tax code where a person or business could go to several accountants and tax attorneys and submit the same data and find different advice on how to file the documents? What kind of "code" is that- where different outcomes result from the same data? (I've even had an accountant ask me once "how aggressive do you want to be?")
www.federalregister.gov

Lay on top of this the same type of bureaucracies on State and local levels. It is insane.

ps: actually I support the Post Office and don't like the semi-deregulation- they have to compete against for profit companies but have to provide the benefits and pensions for all the former government employees. That is bs. If I were king I would've lobbied for the Post Office to be the only delivery system for legal summons, tax documents, court filings, tickets/fines, and government benefits and, like several have done in Europe, made it a "bank" for the poor, rural, or elderly where the electronic deposits would go there for free and maintain free account, or sliding scale. This would help prevent fraud, the old days of checks stolen, and provide some services to the indigent or needy who a normal bank might not want as a customer or have no branch in their area. The PO could also be used as 'security' eyes for the government and local LEOs. They would notice changes in the neighborhood, if some old guy's mail has been piling up, suspicious packages, etc.

[PB the Deplorable]

Word 

However, this is what a democracy is supposed to be about. Do we want it that way or should we try something else The people were supposed to have a say here, no?

This is supposed to be a republic, not a democracy.  The framers set up the governance of the country based on personal liberty and separation of powers.  A federal seizing of the healthcare industry violates both.  The Constitution lists the duties the federal government is supposed to be involved in, with everything else left to the people and to the states.  Neither healthcare nor healthcare insurance are listed, nor should they have been.

Telling us what insurance we have to buy, and who we can buy it from - or else - violates our personal liberty.  No matter what the majority thinks.  The federal government interfering in healthcare at all is a violation of separation of powers.  Regardless of what the majority wants.  I realize we are well past this point, and probably 85% of what the federal government does is not authorized (and look at the mess we're in with the debt), but that does not mean we should add to it.  The people who wrote it and ratified it were a lot smarter than todays politicians, and they did it for the good of the country - whereas the motives of today's politicians are greed and power.

Personal liberty and separation of powers are two of the keystones of our country and should be taken seriously.  Any changes to powers granted to the federal government should be made through the amendment process, not illegally through Congress, not illegally through the Courts.

[albrecht]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a democracy.  The framers set up the governance of the country based on personal liberty and separation of powers.  A federal seizing of the healthcare industry violates both.  The Constitution lists the duties the federal government is supposed to be involved in, with everything else left to the people and to the states.  Neither healthcare nor healthcare insurance are listed, nor should they have been.

Telling us what insurance we have to buy, and who we can buy it from - or else - violates our personal liberty.  No matter what the majority thinks.  The federal government interfering in healthcare at all is a violation of separation of powers.  Regardless of what the majority wants.  I realize we are well past this point, and probably 85% of what the federal government does is not authorized (and look at the mess we're in with the debt), but that does not mean we should add to it.  The people who wrote it and ratified it were a lot smarter than todays politicians, and they did it for the good of the country - whereas today's politicians are about greed and power.

Personal liberty and separation of powers are two of the keystones of our country and should be taken seriously.  Any changes to powers granted to the federal government should be made through the amendment process, not Congress, not the Courts.

Amen. Well said. I also would reiterate that the "separation of powers" is not just about the Federal 'balance' of Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary but also between Federal, State, and Local (and individual.) This is often ignored. The Founders never intended that everything be run from DC, even if it is 'balanced' or 'separated'- which often in the case now it is not.

[GravitySucks]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a democracy.  The framers set up the governance of the country based on personal liberty and separation of powers.  A federal seizing of the healthcare industry violates both.  The Constitution lists the duties the federal government is supposed to be involved in, with everything else left to the people and to the states.  Neither healthcare nor healthcare insurance are listed, nor should they have been.

Telling us what insurance we have to buy, and who we can buy it from - or else - violates our personal liberty.  No matter what the majority thinks.  The federal government interfering in healthcare at all is a violation of separation of powers.  Regardless of what the majority wants.  I realize we are well past this point, and probably 85% of what the federal government does is not authorized (and look at the mess we're in with the debt), but that does not mean we should add to it.  The people who wrote it and ratified it were a lot smarter than todays politicians, and they did it for the good of the country - whereas the motives of today's politicians are greed and power.

Personal liberty and separation of powers are two of the keystones of our country and should be taken seriously.  Any changes to powers granted to the federal government should be made through the amendment process, not illegally through Congress, not illegally through the Courts.

How in the hell do you stand it in the Bay Area?  Are there local support groups?

[Dr. MD MD]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a democracy.  The framers set up the governance of the country based on personal liberty and separation of powers.  A federal seizing of the healthcare industry violates both.  The Constitution lists the duties the federal government is supposed to be involved in, with everything else left to the people and to the states.  Neither healthcare nor healthcare insurance are listed, nor should they have been.

Telling us what insurance we have to buy, and who we can buy it from - or else - violates our personal liberty.  No matter what the majority thinks.  The federal government interfering in healthcare at all is a violation of separation of powers.  Regardless of what the majority wants.  I realize we are well past this point, and probably 85% of what the federal government does is not authorized (and look at the mess we're in with the debt), but that does not mean we should add to it.  The people who wrote it and ratified it were a lot smarter than todays politicians, and they did it for the good of the country - whereas the motives of today's politicians are greed and power.

Personal liberty and separation of powers are two of the keystones of our country and should be taken seriously.  Any changes to powers granted to the federal government should be made through the amendment process, not illegally through Congress, not illegally through the Courts.

Whoa, sailor! I'm NOT defending Obamacare. It was a fiasco. I'm just saying that I think it's possible that access to affordable health care is something the majority of citizens want. In this republic there was supposed to be a process by which they could effect the changes they wanted. However, the people who are supposed to be doing that on their behalf clearly aren't working for the greatest good for the most people. They're just looking out for themselves now.   

[Meister_000]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168

[GravitySucks]

Run out of bumper stickers?

[albrecht]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168

One of my favorite tweets from him. Because Cinco De Mayo was such a minor holiday, even in Ol' Mex, and it was the beer distributors and illegals in the USA, primarily in Cali, etc that made "it" a big thing (here.) You ask trabajeros etc years ago, even now, and they have no clue what Cinco de Mayo was (hint: French.) So funny. But any excuse to drink beer, I guess.

[smccomas69]

Whoa, sailor! I'm NOT defending Obamacare. It was a fiasco. I'm just saying that I think it's possible that access to affordable health care is something the majority of citizens want. In this republic there was supposed to be a process by which they could effect the changes they wanted. However, the people who are supposed to be doing that on their behalf clearly aren't working for the greatest good for the most people. They're just looking out for themselves now.   

Advances in medicine are the future it will be the next revolution. We had agriculture, industrial, technology it is time to make the leaps in medicine. That and energy (fusion) those are the last hurtles before we start migrating off this rock.

[PB the Deplorable]

Doanld Trump  Twitter
Happy #Cinco De Mayo.  The best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill.  I love Hispanics.

This is so crude and vulgar.  Imagine making reference to people's heritage on a holiday we use to celebrate Mexican culture.

We had it so much better when Obama was inviting cartel and gang members here to cause chaos and increase crime in our Latin communities.  And Holder's bright idea of gaining support for anti-gun laws by running guns to the Mexican cartels in order to create more gun violence against Mexicans along our border. 

In a just country, both these two would have been removed from office and tried for treason.  But for the Left-wing kooks like Miser, Trump's the bad person.

[3OctaveFart]

The taco bowl that pig likes best lies between Ivanka's legs.

Mix in a salad once in a while, fatty.

[Gd5150]

The taco bowl that pig likes best lies between Ivanka's legs.

Mix in a salad once in a while, fatty.

[Yorkshire pud]

Advances in medicine are the future it will be the next revolution. We had agriculture, industrial, technology it is time to make the leaps in medicine. That and energy (fusion) those are the last hurtles before we start migrating off this rock.

Yeah. One day we'll have x rays, MRI machines, mammograms, ultra sound, non invasive surgery, brain scans, major organ transplants (including new born babies) blood transfusions, bone marrow transplants, stem cell transplants, almost elimination of childhood leukaemia, cures or remission for many tumours that twenty years ago would have been fatal, vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, TB, diptheria, typhoid, yellow fever, the extinction of smallpox, invention of medicines, surgical procedures and therapy that have increased life expectancy many fold, prosthetic appliances that look almost real, incredible facial reconstruction surgery and face transplants, hand transplants, IVF, eye surgery, spinal surgery, neuro surgery, carbon fibre implants, hearing implants, skin grafting.....I'm sure I've overlooked a few million others.   :

[Yorkshire pud]

The taco bowl that pig likes best lies between Ivanka's legs.

Mix in a salad once in a while, fatty.

The most beautiful, incredible, wonderful salad.

[Meister_000]

. . . for Left-wing kooks like Meister, Trump's the bad person.

"Bad" hardly begins to say it.
And that would be; Meister and *the Majority of Americans* -- just so you don't delude yourself too too much (down there in your dark dank sewer chamber).

[smccomas69]

Yeah. One day we'll have x rays, MRI machines, mammograms, ultra sound, non invasive surgery, brain scans, major organ transplants (including new born babies) blood transfusions, bone marrow transplants, stem cell transplants, almost elimination of childhood leukaemia, cures or remission for many tumours that twenty years ago would have been fatal, vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, TB, diptheria, typhoid, yellow fever, the extinction of smallpox, invention of medicines, surgical procedures and therapy that have increased life expectancy many fold, prosthetic appliances that look almost real, incredible facial reconstruction surgery and face transplants, hand transplants, IVF, eye surgery, spinal surgery, neuro surgery, carbon fibre implants, hearing implants, skin grafting.....I'm sure I've overlooked a few million others.   :

And your point? Did you find a medical shit post generator? Oh how special sorry you are still basic. 

[Meister_000]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a democracy.  The framers set up the governance of the country based on personal liberty and separation of powers.

The framers set up a "Mixed"-form of Government from Day fucking One!: being a . . .

Liberal Democratic Constitutional and Tripartite* Federal Republic (or a Mixed-Federal-Republic with a Representative-Democracy)

*Montesquieu's three branched power-head "Trias Politica" -- Legislative, Executive, Judicial.

Practically speaking, The word *Republic* meant simply *not a Kingdom* and not a (Christian) Theocracy -- those were the things (the forms) they were most primarily concerned with distinguishing and distancing themselves from.

Interesting that "Liberalism" conveniently escaped your Authoritarian pea-brain -- when of course IT was *the Womb* of the entire fucking Enterprise!

[Meister_000]

https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/860872089938657281

[Yorkshire pud]

And your point? Did you find a medical shit post generator? Oh how special sorry you are still basic*.

Nope, only from memory, but what was your point? That medicine has lagged behind in advances the way agriculture hasn't?

* What does that even mean?

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

Oh for Pete's sake!  Is our healthcare system failing?  He'll yes, and no one can convince me otherwise.  My family has excellent insurance coverage but it isn't nearly enough.  We are out of pocket nearly $1400/month for insurance coverasge, but we still have to meet expenses for both treatments and drugs that our insurance doesn't pay for.  I have to constantly spend time calling our insurance co and service providers to get shut straightened out.  Having said that, Am I happy to have insurance?  He'll yes...we'd be destitute without it.  Healthcare is like anything else...if you can afford it, you can have it, or if you are Falkie, you can have decent healthcare too, at everyone else's expense. 

[GravitySucks]

https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/860872089938657281

Are you trying to interfere in another country's elections during their 40 hour blackout period?

Shame on you.

[Yorkshire pud]

Oh for Pete's sake!  Is our healthcare system failing?  He'll yes, and no one can convince me otherwise.  My family has excellent insurance coverage but it isn't nearly enough.  We are out of pocket nearly $1400/month for insurance coverasge, but we still have to meet expenses for both treatments and drugs that our insurance doesn't pay for.  I have to constantly spend time calling our insurance co and service providers to get shut straightened out.  Having said that, Am I happy to have insurance?  He'll yes...we'd be destitute without it.  Healthcare is like anything else...if you can afford it, you can have it, or if you are Falkie, you can have decent healthcare too, at everyone else's expense.

If you clog up the ER.

[Yorkshire pud]

Are you trying to interfere in another country's elections during their 40 hour blackout period?

Shame on you.

I bet Putin is full of remorse.  :

[Meister_000]

This here is one of the real purposes hidden inside Trump's "Religious Freedoms" EO Bull Shit. Its on page two of the EO (Section Three "Conscience Protections") directing HHS Secretary Price to prepare dismantalling measures against Obama's "Contraception Mandate"

https://twitter.com/TheLastWord/status/860871840016760832

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

If you clog up the ER.

Fakie's primary care physician is whoever is at the ER when he decides to go for every little sniffle...send the bill to the asshole in Kansas.

[Yorkshire pud]

This here is one of the real purposes hidden inside Trump's "Religious Freedoms" EO Bull Shit. Its on page two of the EO (Section Three "Conscience Protections") directing HHS Secretary Price to prepare dismantalling measures against Obama's "Contraception Mandate"

https://twitter.com/TheLastWord/status/860871840016760832

The woman proposed to be put in charge of family planning believes contraception doesn't work, and abortions cause breast cancer..clearly amply medically qualified.

[smccomas69]

Nope, only from memory, but what was your point? That medicine has lagged behind in advances the way agriculture hasn't?

* What does that even mean?

Nope, but you are looking in the past.

CRISPR-CAS9
Instead of a treatment for cancer why not cure it completely.
http://wallstreetpit.com/113373-china-surging-ahead-race-cure-cancer-crispr/

HGP + greater computing power. Now able to do this http://fortune.com/2017/01/26/synthetic-dna-bolt-threads/

Reverse some of the symptoms of aging with TGF beta, create pluripotent stem cells, regrow organs outside the body. Those are pretty damn big.

[Yorkshire pud]

Nope, but you are looking in the past.

CRISPR-CAS9
Instead of a treatment for cancer why not cure it completely.

And some cancers are curable...

Reverse some of the symptoms of aging with TGF beta, create pluripotent stem cells, regrow organs outside the body. Those are pretty damn big.

You'll get no argument from me; that was included in the millions I hadn't listed... :