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Spy

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 04, 2017, 07:19:52 AM
The leftwing lemming idiots really should come up with a new mantra. "He's stupid. Dumb. Wants world war 3. Will nuke everyone" the ignorant left said about Trump, W, Bush, Reagan. Supposedly they were all stupid and laughed at by the world ignorant left, while they increased the US position of leadership and power as THE dominant super power.

There are a lot of reasons the U.S. became the world's dominant superpower. Trump, W, GHWB had nothing to do with it.  Some argue that Reagan's large increases in military spending helped bankrupt the USSR. That claim is dubious since the USSR's state-run economy was corrupt, designed to fail, was unsustainable from the beginning and its collapse was inevitable. The state of California has a larger GDP that Russia.

Conversely, the US was in an almost natural position to become a superpower. A huge continent rich in resources, millions of hard-working immigrants leaving their homelands to build a better life, presidents who believed in the young nation's "manifest destiny" to expand from the Atlantic to the Pacific, public education creating a fairly well-educated work force.  The US became the world's dominant economic power by the late 1800's, barely 100 years after its creation.  World War II elevated the US to the dominant military as well as economic superpower.  The question now is how long that dominance will last.


Quote from: Spy on August 04, 2017, 08:04:24 AM
There are a lot of reasons the U.S. became the world's dominant superpower. Trump, W, GHWB had nothing to do with it.  Some argue that Reagan's large increases in military spending helped bankrupt the USSR. That claim is dubious since the USSR's state-run economy was corrupt, designed to fail, was unsustainable from the beginning and its collapse was inevitable...

Anyone else not ever hear a single Democrat talk about any of this during the 1980s when Reagan was trying to face them down?

All I heard from the Ds was that we should get rid of our nukes to show our good will, we were pushing the world to nuclear war by stationing our short range nukes in Germany to counter the short range nukes the Soviets stationed in East Germany, missile defense was ''Star Wars'' - at the same time both undoable and somehow a threat to the Soviets.  The Soviets became adept at playing the Libs by proposing nuclear weapons treaties that would have minimal impact on them but would significantly affect our weapons - the Libs would then rush to the streets to demand we accept terms.

We weren't supposed to counter Soviet aggression (through their puppet regime in Cuba) in our hemisphere, or anywhere else.  Now we find out Teddy Kennedy was asking for Soviet help in influencing our 1984 elections against Reagan.

The Ds were terrified of the Soviets, terrified of Reagan, battled Reagan every step of the way in designing their collapse, and were willing to do anything to appease them.  The hard core Leftists - precursors to today's ''Progressives'' - were on the side of the Soviet totalitarian state and cried when they collapsed.

So no, the Libs don't get to now claim they knew it all along.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on August 04, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Anyone else not ever hear a single Democrat talk about any of this during the 1980s when Reagan was trying to face them down?

All I heard from the Ds was that we should get rid of our nukes to show our good will, we were pushing the world to nuclear war by stationing our short range nukes in Germany to counter the short range nukes the Soviets stationed in East Germany, missile defense was ''Star Wars'' - at the same time both undoable and somehow a threat to the Soviets.  The Soviets became adept at playing the Libs by proposing nuclear weapons treaties that would have minimal impact on them but would significantly affect our weapons - the Libs would then rush to the streets to demand we accept terms.

We weren't supposed to counter Soviet aggression (through their puppet regime in Cuba) in our hemisphere, or anywhere else.  Now we find out Teddy Kennedy was asking for Soviet help in influencing our 1984 elections against Reagan.

The Ds were terrified of the Soviets, terrified of Reagan, battled Reagan every step of the way in designing their collapse, and were willing to do anything to appease them.  The hard core Leftists - precursors to today's ''Progressives'' - were on the side of the Soviet totalitarian state and cried when they collapsed.

So no, the Libs don't get to now claim they knew it all along.

The 'Hard core leftists' were in the tiny minority when it came to not wanting nuclear war. It isn't common knowledge and was only made public a few years ago, but there was a specific short period of time in 1983 when RAF Vulcan bombers were fueled up with APU's hooked up, fully loaded with nuclear stand off bombs, sitting on the rapid deployment ramps at RAF Waddington, Conningsby and Finningley. The crews knew it was a one way trip and that it was no exercise. It was a time of high tension between NATO and the then USSR, and closer to all out war than the Cuban missile crises. The B52's flying out of Fairford and US bases were in similar readiness.

To simply dismiss it as leftist/dems/progressive bullshit is blind ignorance of the reality of that period. In the UK, the 'after war government' actually took positions in the bunkers until they were told otherwise. Bomber crews made final phone calls to their families. Reagan and Thatcher played incredibly high stakes with the Soviet hierarchy and it was as close as it could be to one side launching ICBM's. They'd have been okay of course, because they'd be underground. No side beat the other, they stepped back. We all won because we're still alive.

ZaZa

Quote from: ZaZa on August 03, 2017, 10:43:43 PM
*** good news for President TRUMP ***

W. Virginia governor switches parties, Republicans now control majority of states
Published time: 3 Aug, 2017 23:26
Edited time: 4 Aug, 2017 00:17
https://www.rt.com/usa/398506-jim-justice-trump-rally-switch-parties/

*West Virginia Governor Jim Justice is now a Republican, he officially announced at a rally for President Donald Trump.
The ex-Democrat has just tipped the scales to give the GOP control of 26 state legislatures and governorships.*



.../ HAha ha ha ha ha , LOL  :) 8) :) 8)

York pud what do you think of this ??
GREAT NEWS ,don't you think so ..... ? LOL

starrmtn001

President Trump's Weekly Address - August 4, 2017.

https://youtu.be/u8ZxZO5gOA0

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: ZaZa on August 04, 2017, 09:10:21 AM
York pud what do you think of this ??
GREAT NEWS ,don't you think so ..... ? LOL

I don't give a fuck one way or the other.  ::)  Did you have a wank over it?

ZaZa

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 09:22:27 AM
I don't give a fuck one way or the other.  ::)  Did you have a wank over it?

so you are that stupid that you don't understand the consequences of it...right ??

Gd5150

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on August 04, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Anyone else not ever hear a single Democrat talk about any of this during the 1980s when Reagan was trying to face them down?

All I heard from the Ds was that we should get rid of our nukes to show our good will, we were pushing the world to nuclear war by stationing our short range nukes in Germany to counter the short range nukes the Soviets stationed in East Germany, missile defense was ''Star Wars'' - at the same time both undoable and somehow a threat to the Soviets.  The Soviets became adept at playing the Libs by proposing nuclear weapons treaties that would have minimal impact on them but would significantly affect our weapons - the Libs would then rush to the streets to demand we accept terms.

We weren't supposed to counter Soviet aggression (through their puppet regime in Cuba) in our hemisphere, or anywhere else.  Now we find out Teddy Kennedy was asking for Soviet help in influencing our 1984 elections against Reagan.

The Ds were terrified of the Soviets, terrified of Reagan, battled Reagan every step of the way in designing their collapse, and were willing to do anything to appease them.  The hard core Leftists - precursors to today's ''Progressives'' - were on the side of the Soviet totalitarian state and cried when they collapsed.

So no, the Libs don't get to now claim they knew it all along.

Yep it was called "The Nuclear Freeze". All the idiot leftwing lemmings had the bumper stickers on their cars. Their solution was the US and USSR will freeze all production and maintenance of nucUlar weapons. Which of course would mean the US stops and the Russians don't. Reagans response was dump a load of money in the missile defense which forced Gorby to the table to inevitably tear down the wall and collapse the USSR.

Libya was also out of control.  Pan Am flight 103  blown out of the air by Giddafi, the leader of Libya for the leftwing lemmings here. Reagan bombed them and the left went wild claiming he wanted war and that his bombing would accomplish nothing. Of course, Giddafi disappeared for 25 years until when? Barack Obatard Obama. He and Hillary successfully caused Libya to be a total disaster.

Remember the 1st World Trade Center bombing? And the 🍔 Nothing burger Clinton response that lead to almost a dozen major terrorist attacks around the world during the Clinton presidency. Mogadishu. And of course 911.

North Korea is all on Clinton and Carters hands with Carters asinine deal he made with them in hopes they'd stop their pursuit of Nuclear Weapns back in the 1990s.

The stories of Democrat/left wing foreign policy ignorance are endless. Those of us who are educated on history, lived through the actual events, and know better when we are continuously lied to by the leftwing media/education complex know the failure and danger the left and Democrat party is the to US and the free world.

The few idiots leftwingers here are a great example and reminder that the job of educating the stupid is never done.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: ZaZa on August 04, 2017, 09:24:20 AM
so you are that stupid that you don't understand the consequences of it...right ??

Ahhh, understanding something isn't the same as caring... I see where you got confused.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gd5150 on August 04, 2017, 09:26:30 AM
Those of us who are educated.


There's been no evidence of that. Seriously.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: ZaZa on August 04, 2017, 09:10:21 AM
York pud what do you think of this ??
GREAT NEWS ,don't you think so ..... ? LOL

Of a guy who was a Republican up to 2015, turned Democrat for convenience and now jumps back to Republican. The guys a carpetbagger, so yeah he's perfect Trump material.

So the same people who were outrage of voting against the party, are totally okay with voting in as one party and switching to another in the beginning of the term. Turmpers thou shall have no standards.

aldousburbank

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 09:29:29 AM

There's been no evidence of that. Seriously.

I doesn't agree. Haiter!

ZaZa

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 09:29:29 AM

There's been no evidence of that. Seriously.

I agree with you York pud.
you and SredniVashtar are prime examples of that that you are not educated.

Up All Night

Here's what some of you need, and you know who you are !!!


Cuddle parties hosted by professional cuddlers are becoming popular with Donald Trump in the White House.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/why-professional-cuddling-is-booming-under-trump-w495042

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Up All Night on August 04, 2017, 10:45:04 AM
Here's what some of you need, and you know who you are !!!


Cuddle parties hosted by professional cuddlers are becoming popular with Donald Trump in the White House.



Yes? Stands to reason Donny needs cuddles. You forgot the comma after 'popular'.  ;)  I guess he doesn't need them when he's playing golf (which he said he'd have no time for) or vacations (which he also would forego)... ;D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Spy on August 04, 2017, 08:04:24 AM
There are a lot of reasons the U.S. became the world's dominant superpower. Trump, W, GHWB had nothing to do with it.  Some argue that Reagan's large increases in military spending helped bankrupt the USSR. That claim is dubious since the USSR's state-run economy was corrupt, designed to fail, was unsustainable from the beginning and its collapse was inevitable. The state of California has a larger GDP that Russia.

So, in your schizo world why are the only two options for you are 1) war with them or 2) become the next version of them, in spite of you admitting it's an inherently flawed system? It this irrationality that makes it hard for anyone to take you seriously.  ::)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 06:59:24 AM
Why don't you? You're the fucking hard case. I'd love to watch you take on McMasters. I'd pay to watch that.  ;D

Oh, yeah, I'm really scared of that fag prancing around in his stripes. It's really the military that want him out as they don't trust his leadership. He's a Muslim and REALLY wants the Iran deal to continue.  ::) ;D


starrmtn001

 ;) ;D

BREAKING: AG Jeff Sessions to Subpoena Fake News Media that Leaks Classified Information!  8.4.17.

https://youtu.be/CTl7q9MBNps

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Zetaspeak on August 04, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
Of a guy who was a Republican up to 2015, turned Democrat for convenience and now jumps back to Republican. The guys a carpetbagger, so yeah he's perfect Trump material.

So the same people who were outrage of voting against the party, are totally okay with voting in as one party and switching to another in the beginning of the term. Turmpers thou shall have no standards.

It's the fact that both parties are gaming the system against our interests that fake poll dropping party loyalists like you will never understand.  :D

Dr. MD MD

Wasserman Schultz just played the race card in defending her decision not to fire Awan. She was worried about his due process rights. She just got back from vacation. This horrible person and those like her don't seem worried at all. I sure hope this is not an indication of the outcome. The bitch should be behind bars!  ::)

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
The 'Hard core leftists' were in the tiny minority when it came to not wanting nuclear war. It isn't common knowledge and was only made public a few years ago, but there was a specific short period of time in 1983 when RAF Vulcan bombers were fueled up with APU's hooked up, fully loaded with nuclear stand off bombs, sitting on the rapid deployment ramps at RAF Waddington, Conningsby and Finningley. The crews knew it was a one way trip and that it was no exercise. It was a time of high tension between NATO and the then USSR, and closer to all out war than the Cuban missile crises. The B52's flying out of Fairford and US bases were in similar readiness.

To simply dismiss it as leftist/dems/progressive bullshit is blind ignorance of the reality of that period. In the UK, the 'after war government' actually took positions in the bunkers until they were told otherwise. Bomber crews made final phone calls to their families. Reagan and Thatcher played incredibly high stakes with the Soviet hierarchy and it was as close as it could be to one side launching ICBM's. They'd have been okay of course, because they'd be underground. No side beat the other, they stepped back. We all won because we're still alive.

If you think things got a little tense at times - and they did - think about how tense things would have become by projecting weakness and appeasing them. 

Anyway, you reinforced my point that it wasn't obvious at the time that the Soviet Union would collapse any time soon, or that it's collapse would be peaceful rather than include nuclear blackmail or cause another World War.  We really ought to give Reagan and Thatcher credit, along with our brave allies who stood up to them and others who went along with some very unpopular moves at the time, Pope John Paul II, and people like Lech Walesa.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 09:22:27 AM
I don't give a fuck one way or the other.  ::)  Did you have a wank over it?

Don't lie! Obviously you care more about our politics than your own. You probably had a wank over it.  :D


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 04, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
Oh, yeah, I'm really scared of that fag prancing around in his stripes. It's really the military that want him out as they don't trust his leadership. He's a Muslim and REALLY wants the Iran deal to continue.  ::) ;D


Oh PLEASE say that to his face..Please!!!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 04, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
So, in your schizo world why are the only two options for you are 1) war with them or 2) become the next version of them,

Learn to fucking read..He didn't say that dumbass.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 12:03:52 PM

Oh PLEASE say that to his face..Please!!!

Even the people who know you in real life must think you're just the biggest wanker ever, right?  :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 04, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Learn to fucking read..He didn't say that dumbass.

Really?! And yet you don't correct me. Curious.  ::) ;D


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 04, 2017, 12:06:54 PM
Even the people who know you in real life must think you're just the biggest wanker ever, right?  :D

That's where we differ..You don't know any people. Not ones with a pulse anyway.  ;D  Oh you crack me up..Go on, give McMasters a ring and arrange to have lunch..You know you want to. ;D

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