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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 07, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
So, when Comey makes a mistake he is not lying. You didn't feel that way about Sessions, Flynn or Kushner.

If I need to explain the difference then you need slides or a powerpoint presentation.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 07, 2017, 04:47:06 PM
If I need to explain the difference then you need slides or a powerpoint presentation.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 07, 2017, 04:49:53 PM


I edited the post and added this:

Why did Trump ask Comey if he was under investigation? Why did he demand his personal loyalty? And you're questioning Comey's credibility after the hundreds of lies that Trump tells and his incredible cruelty in throwing his staff under the bus to protect himself? He's a fucking coward. He's not worth pissing on let alone protecting.

He's spending money on ads to trash Comey, (now a civilan) because he's shitting his pants. He's a fucking snowflake who can't stand being questioned.

You think Trump is credible? Seriously?

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 07, 2017, 04:54:10 PM
I edited the post and added this:

Why did Trump ask Comey if he was under investigation? Why did he demand his personal loyalty? And you're questioning Comey's credibility after the hundreds of lies that Trump tells and his incredible cruelty in throwing his staff under the bus to protect himself? He's a fucking coward. He's not worth pissing on let alone protecting.

He's spending money on ads to trash Comey, (now a civilan) because he's shitting his pants. He's a fucking snowflake who can't stand being questioned.

You think Trump is credible? Seriously?

Haha yeah I saw that.  After actually reading Comey's thing he might wanna pull them.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: K_Dubb on June 07, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
Haha yeah I saw that.  After actually reading Comey's thing he might wanna pull them.

Senda Trump has no self awareness so won't give up his phone to stop him tweeting. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his frustrated staffers resign either tomorrow or soon after. Imagine going for a job after admitting working for him?

starrmtn001

James Comey and FBI sued on the Eve of His Testimony to the Senate!
Published on Jun 7, 2017
Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, and a former prosecutor of the U.S. Department of Justice has announced that he and his client have filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against former FBI Director James Comey, the FBI itself, the CIA, NSA and other intelligence agencies.


https://youtu.be/9Q4qirKCI80

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: StarrMountain on June 07, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
James Comey and FBI sued on the Eve of His Testimony to the Senate!
Published on Jun 7, 2017
Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, and a former prosecutor of the U.S. Department of Justice has announced that he and his client have filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against former FBI Director James Comey, the FBI itself, the CIA, NSA and other intelligence agencies.




There are no coinshedenshes.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on June 07, 2017, 02:00:14 PM
This is the problem you are in as a country right now, you just cannot see clearly at all. Replace 'Trump' with 'Obama' and your reaction would be totally different...

Well, one difference is Obama went far beyond the law, multiple ongoing felonies were committed by him and his administration, and he was enormously intentionally destructive to tis country. 

There is no evidence at all Trump has done anything wrong, and the people who are really interfering in the election have created this witch hunt in order to distract him and block him from doing what he was elected to do.

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 07, 2017, 04:19:53 PM
Oh jeeze, you're deluded. Trump invites ONLY Comey to dinner (after suggesting he bring his family) and demands Comey's personal loyalty to Trump. And fires him when he wouldn't do it. And you're not embarrassed?
Its hilarious I know how against the rules that exchange is, and you don't, or don't care.

There is quite a lot of activity and conduct related to his firing missing in this timeline.  You state it like it all happened over a period of a day or two.  Embarrassed?

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 07, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
Seriously? Trump doesn't know the difference between lies and truth, he just opens his mouth twitter account and says whatever comes in his head. Comey isn't universally liked (but then when did being FBI director become a popularity contest?) but his integrity hasn't been questioned by either Reps or Dems.

It's true he doesn't know much, but he isn't deeply dishonest the way Bill, Hilary, Barrock, Bernie, Nancy, Diane, Kamala, Maxine, Wolf, and the rest are.

And, um, Comey's integrity has been questioned by both the Rs and the Ds.  Regardless of what you think, that's the reason he was fired.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 07, 2017, 05:06:32 PM
Senda Trump has no self awareness so won't give up his phone to stop him tweeting. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his frustrated staffers resign either tomorrow or soon after. Imagine going for a job after admitting working for him?

Oh I hope he twitters away at Comey the whole time!  I have freshly roasted coffee and snacks.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 07, 2017, 04:19:53 PM
Oh jeeze, you're deluded. Trump invites ONLY Comey to dinner (after suggesting he bring his family) and demands Comey's personal loyalty to Trump. And fires him when he wouldn't do it. And you're not embarrassed?
Its hilarious I know how against the rules that exchange is, and you don't, or don't care.

There is absolutely nothing against the rules in what Trump said. 




Quote from: Meister_000 on June 07, 2017, 04:35:01 PM
Remembering D-Day
Punchin Nazis? We were literally raised to know it was our civic duty to do so -- it was the stuff of (patriotic) Heros, the very "model" image and likeness. We were Trained-up that way, to know right from wrong, good-guys from bad, American from Un-American -- and the Duties attending that. Were we brought-up incorrectly, or True?

Captain America: issue #1 March 1941

And you think this has something to do with Donald Trump

As a profoundly stupid person, you were fortunate to fall in with a bunch of California educrats.  One of the few places in society the truly dumb can become convinced they are leading productive lives:  their co-workers are also morons, and the schools are required to follow their orders, no questions asked.  The downside is kid's educations are ruined.

Meister_000

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 07, 2017, 06:44:03 PM
And you think this has something to do with Donald Trump

"It" has *everything* to do with American cultural history and it's deeply imprinted/imbued _VALUES_. More than half of America's current voting public (at least) are still operating under this same general baseline fundamental assumption. It's about what you will and will-not tollerate. It's about were and what 'the line" is, the Limit. Your team has declared and demonstrated it's idea of "Limits" (all-to-clearly). If you find _our_ retained (quite traditional) values objectionable,  here being the emphatic rejection of Nazi/Fascist/Authoritarian/Nationalist/Christian Extremist/Racist/White-Supremacist/Xenophobic (etc. etc) designs and sympathies, it might be time to ask yourselves who and what the fuck you are? K?

Quote from: Meister_000 on June 07, 2017, 07:38:47 PM
"It" has *everything* to do with American cultural history and it's deeply imprinted/imbued _VALUES_. More than half of America's current voting public (at least) are still operating under this same general baseline fundamental assumption. It's about what you will and will-not tollerate. It's about were and what 'the line" is, the Limit. Your team has declared and demonstrated it's idea of "Limits" (all-to-clearly). If you find _our_ retained (quite traditional) values objectionable,  here being the emphatic rejection of Nazi/Fascist/Authoritarian/Nationalist/Christian Extremist/Racist/White-Supremacist/Xenophobic (etc. etc) designs and sympathies, it might be time to ask yourselves who and what the fuck you are? K?

Well, again, and I realize you aren't very bright, what does ''Nazi/Fascist/Authoritarian/Nationalist/Christian Extremist/Racist/White-Supremacist/Xenophobic (etc. etc)'' have to do with Trump? 

Isn't that just another tired smear tactic by the America-haters, who can't get over the fact they lost the election?

Quote from: Meister_000 on June 07, 2017, 06:23:54 PM
Washington (CNN) ~ June 7, 2017
Trump's approval rating
at New Low --> 34% <--
;D ;D ;D

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating-quinnipiac/index.html

Most people don't go over the poll details, methodology, or even read the article, they just look at the headline.  In fairness to Miser, she's shown she's not really equipped to look beyond a headline.

Reading the link, I found the following information on how the poll was conducted (Sample and Methodology Detail link):

The sample size was a poll of 1361 Registered Voters, taken nationally over the period between May 31 -June 6.  The Party Affiliations of those surveyed was as follows:

Republican 23%
Democrat 35
Independent 36
Other/DK/NA 7

The description of the survey included the following:

''This survey uses statistical weighting procedures to account for deviations in the survey sample from known population characteristics, which helps correct for differential survey participation and random variation in samples. The overall adult sample is weighted to recent Census data using a sample balancing procedure to match the demographic makeup of the population by region, gender, age, education and race.''


First off, rather than a current 'snapshot', the poll was taken over a week.  A lot can happen in DC in a week, this is less valid than if it were a current, 'overnight' poll.

Is 1361 respondents, over a week, enough to present a valid sample?  They say yes, with a 3.2% margin of error.  I'm not so sure.

Republicans 23%.  This obviously grossly underrepresents the Presidents supporters.  More than 1 in 3 of those surveyed was a registered ''Independent''?  Really?  Is this believable?  No - I'm guessing many of these were Democrats but they couldn't show that as the party affiliations already look very unfair.

Then we find out the results from the 1361 people were ''corrected'' for ''differential survey participation'', and ''balanced'' to ''match demographic makeup'' by such characteristics as race and gender.  Given the rest of this, isn't that just a wee bit suspicious?  Not only do they have a tiny sample, underrepresent the president's supporters, they then ''adjust'' that result.  They don't adjust it for Party Affiliation - no, they adjust it for characteristics like ''race''.  Which means more blacks and Hispanics, which means more Democrats, which means more ''disapproval''. 

And lo and behold!  the president has low approval ratings.


Just to see the bias we're dealing with, let's look at a few of the questions.  I very much doubt pollsters ever asked these questions about Obama.  Just asking them puts doubt in people's minds when answering.  In court they call it leading the witness:

11. Would you say that Donald Trump - is honest, or not?
12. Would you say that Donald Trump - has good leadership skills, or not?
14. Would you say that Donald Trump - is level headed, or not?
16. Would you say that Donald Trump - is intelligent, or not?
18. Do you think that President Trump will be president for the entire four years of his term, or not?
19. Do you think that President Trump is abusing the powers of his office, or not?

That's where I stopped reading them.

Anyone think this is a fair, honest poll?  Thanks Miser, you've once again demonstrated the vast Dishonesty of the Left.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Meister_000 on June 07, 2017, 07:38:47 PM
"It" has *everything* to do with American cultural history and it's deeply imprinted/imbued _VALUES_. More than half of America's current voting public (at least) are still operating under this same general baseline fundamental assumption. It's about what you will and will-not tollerate. It's about were and what 'the line" is, the Limit. Your team has declared and demonstrated it's idea of "Limits" (all-to-clearly). If you find _our_ retained (quite traditional) values objectionable,  here being the emphatic rejection of Nazi/Fascist/Authoritarian/Nationalist/Christian Extremist/Racist/White-Supremacist/Xenophobic (etc. etc) designs and sympathies, it might be time to ask yourselves who and what the fuck you are? K?

I think you hit the vodka a little early tonight.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on June 06, 2017, 11:18:24 PM
Bars will open in the morning across America on Thursday so that folks can drop in and watch the Trump take-down while they drink, just like a major sporting event. If it was just Comey Trump might have a slim chance at hanging on, but others within the administration who were also approached by Trump to stop the investigation are also on deck to affirm Comey's testimony. As usual, Trump will prove to be his own worst opponent in this match up. I expect he'll Tweet inappropriately afterwards complaining about Comey's high TV ratings. 😜

That had to have been as disappointing as election night. 

Gotta hand it to the Fake Media.

GravitySucks

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 07, 2017, 04:25:21 PM
Put your money where your mouth is. I have $10 towards a charity of your choice that the caller that left the message was a student at the college and was not a Trump supporter.

Charity of my choice is Wounded Warriors.

I was going to do a side bet that it was a Bernie supporter.

The cops must have already identified the caller since they declared it wasn't a viable threat almost immediately.

Deal? If so, name your charity.

I gave the snowflake 4 hours to take me up on my challenge, but no balls from the liberal shitslinger. I'll just make my own donation and ignore the libtard for awhile.

Meister_000

Comey's written opening statement for tomorrow frys Trump's ass on Obstruction of Justice.

Bye Donny !     ;D ;D ;D


Meister_000

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 07, 2017, 08:32:10 PM
I gave the snowflake 4 hours to take me up on my challenge, but no balls from the liberal shitslinger. I'll just make my own donation and ignore the libtard for awhile.

Didn't even see this, but it doesn't matter. Last time I checked, virtually all College/University students in the United States are of voting age (18 minimum) so the premiss of your challenge is fundamentally brain-dead.

Next.

[The Twenty-sixth Amendment (Amendment XXVI) to the United States Constitution prohibits the states and the federal government from using age as a reason for denying the right to vote to citizens of the United States who are at least eighteen years old.]

Quote from: Meister_000 on June 07, 2017, 08:45:36 PM
Didn't even see this, but it doesn't matter. Last time I checked, virtually all College/University students in the United States are of voting age (18 minimum) so the premiss of your challenge is fundamentally brain-dead.

Next.

[The Twenty-sixth Amendment (Amendment XXVI) to the United States Constitution prohibits the states and the federal government from using age as a reason for denying the right to vote to citizens of the United States who are at least eighteen years old.]

Um, the premise of his post was the caller was a student at the college, and wasn't a Trump supporter.  In other words one of the POS America haters there.

It's true, we really can't fix 'stupid'.


GravitySucks

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 07, 2017, 08:50:46 PM
Um, the premise of his post was the caller was a student at the college, and wasn't a Trump supporter.  In other words one of the POS America haters there.

It's true, we really can't fix 'stupid'.

Yeah. No shit. I think the vodka has been flowing tonight. Who the fuck said anything about age?



Meister_000

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 07, 2017, 08:50:46 PM
Um, the premise of his post was the caller was a student at the college, and wasn't a Trump supporter.  In other words one of the POS America haters there.

It's true, we really can't fix 'stupid'.


All the more Brain-Dead -- to put it mildy (both of you). But thanks for more insight into how your team's demented minds function.

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