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WOTR

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 12, 2016, 06:55:58 AM
Tim Tebow is a heck of a kid. God is definitely with him

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/11/report-tim-tebow-saves-fan-from-seizure-after-laying-his-hands-on-him-and-praying/

I wonder if anybody is aware of how seizures usually work.  Next time I encounter somebody having one, I will lay my hands on them and command it to stop.  Pretty good chance that in short order, i will have cast the seizure demon out, saved their life, and set them on the road to recovery (at least until the next seizure.)

***Good for him praying- nothing wrong with that.  Just something wrong with the medias interpretation of the results.

Quote from: WOTR on October 13, 2016, 12:47:41 AM
I wonder if anybody is aware of how seizures usually work.  Next time I encounter somebody having one, I will lay my hands on them and command it to stop.  Pretty good chance that in short order, i will have cast the seizure demon out, saved their life, and set them on the road to recovery (at least until the next seizure.)

***Good for him praying- nothing wrong with that.  Just something wrong with the medias interpretation of the results.

Laying on of hands and inducing a seizure.  That's where it's at.

Lightning storm crossing Corpus Callosum Canal down in the Everglades, summoning albino frogs and black lizards to the Lord's table.

Yes.  That's real power.

CornyCrow

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 12, 2016, 06:55:58 AM
Tim Tebow is a heck of a kid. God is definitely with him

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/11/report-tim-tebow-saves-fan-from-seizure-after-laying-his-hands-on-him-and-praying/
There are nurses in many hospitals who practice this, but you have to ask for them specially.  It's called 'Therapeutic Touch' and does not have to have a religious component.  A person can believe there are natural energy systems that can be manipulated without believing in religious dogma. 

onan

Quote from: Segundus on October 13, 2016, 03:05:59 AM
There are nurses in many hospitals who practice this, but you have to ask for them specially.  It's called 'Therapeutic Touch' and does not have to have a religious component.  A person can believe there are natural energy systems that can be manipulated without believing in religious dogma.

I really hate this subject. It confuses reduction of stress or anxiety with actual healing. Therapeutic touch works on the same principle as petting a dog. It's nice and all, but it doesn't stop a seizure.

Hmm...food for thought perhaps

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/635i623

"Studies have shown prayer can prevent people from getting sick â€" and when they do get sick, prayer can help them get better faster,” Duke University’s Harold G. Koenig, M.D., tells Newsmax Health.

onan

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 13, 2016, 05:43:10 AM
Hmm...food for thought perhaps

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/635623

Yeah, no. Look, healing, recovering from injury or illness happens as readily without divine intervention. Why do prayers never heal an amputated limb? If prayer were all that powerful there would be no disease left, because every disease that has caused injury, pain, or death has been prayed for over and then over again.

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 05:50:04 AM
Yeah, no. Look, healing, recovering from injury or illness happens as readily without divine intervention. Why do prayers never heal an amputated limb? If prayer were all that powerful there would be no disease left, because every disease that has caused injury, pain, or death has been prayed for over and then over again.

I'm just suggesting that there is scientific data to prove that prayer helps.  Now of course the almighty is not going to raise people from the dead and make limbs reappear. But, as   Duke University’s Harold G. Koenig, M.D. says, it can really help your overall health and longevity. Why is that so hard to accept?

onan

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 13, 2016, 05:59:45 AM
I'm just suggesting that there is scientific data to prove that prayer helps.  Now of course the almighty is not going to raise people from the dead and make limbs reappear. But, as   Duke University’s Harold G. Koenig, M.D. says, it can really help your overall health and longevity. Why is that so hard to accept?

Fair question, anything that gives comfort to someone infirmed is in play to aid those suffering. The problem is news agencies overstating the findings of studies.

I am fully aware of belief being part of the healing process, people from different cultures respond differently to alternative belief systems. Someone who believes in shamanistic practices would not respond similarly to a Southern Baptist.

I have been down this road so many times, I no longer want to look at the studies because they always have similar flaws.

I grant you that concerned members of a community may well give comfort to someone with similar beliefs, if however a witch doctor came in to influence a patient's outcome, the results may well be different.

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 06:20:26 AM
Fair question, anything that gives comfort to someone infirmed is in play to aid those suffering. The problem is news agencies overstating the findings of studies.

I am fully aware of belief being part of the healing process, people from different cultures respond differently to alternative belief systems. Someone who believes in shamanistic practices would not respond similarly to a Southern Baptist.

I have been down this road so many times, I no longer want to look at the studies because they always have similar flaws.

I grant you that concerned members of a community may well give comfort to someone with similar beliefs, if however a witch doctor came in to influence a patient's outcome, the results may well be different.


I`m in complete agreement. I think it`s up to the individual and the depth of their believe as to how prayer will benefit them.

CornyCrow

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 05:41:06 AM
I really hate this subject. It confuses reduction of stress or anxiety with actual healing. Therapeutic touch works on the same principle as petting a dog. It's nice and all, but it doesn't stop a seizure.
Laying on of hands does whatever it does.  With some it's effective and in other cases, not.  It can heal just as well as praying to Jesus.  Praying to Jesus is something like praying to your dead dog.  It's the hope that those who have loved you will lend you aid from the afterlife.  It's an old and primitive belief shared by many cultures.  Dogs have actually detected cancers in people.  That's a better track record then the church.  It's also verifiable.

CornyCrow

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 13, 2016, 05:43:10 AM
Hmm...food for thought perhaps

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/635i623

"Studies have shown prayer can prevent people from getting sick â€" and when they do get sick, prayer can help them get better faster,” Duke University’s Harold G. Koenig, M.D., tells Newsmax Health.
Hey.  I believe in a spiritual life and I also believe we don't have all the answers.  Positive thinking can help us a lot in life. 

CornyCrow

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 05:50:04 AM
Yeah, no. Look, healing, recovering from injury or illness happens as readily without divine intervention. Why do prayers never heal an amputated limb? If prayer were all that powerful there would be no disease left, because every disease that has caused injury, pain, or death has been prayed for over and then over again.
Sure, if there were a god, he certainly does not play favorites.  Prayer may help some people, but not others, and those others can be the most innocent and the most loyal to that god.  Undeserved suffering is one of the biggest issues to turn folks into atheists. 

Quote from: Segundus on October 13, 2016, 07:19:07 AM
Laying on of hands does whatever it does.  With some it's effective and in other cases, not.  It can heal just as well as praying to Jesus.  Praying to Jesus is something like praying to your dead dog.  It's the hope that those who have loved you will lend you aid from the afterlife.  It's an old and primitive belief shared by many cultures.  Dogs have actually detected cancers in people.  That's a better track record then the church.  It's also verifiable.

Dogs are amazing. They actually detect the cancer in humans by, of course, smell. When you have cancer, your body will change in ways that a trained dog can detect.

The praying and laying of hands...who knows. I`ve seen it work and benefited from it myself. But, I guess folks will just say whatever they want, and that`s perfectly fine, too. 8)

CornyCrow

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 13, 2016, 05:59:45 AM
I'm just suggesting that there is scientific data to prove that prayer helps.  Now of course the almighty is not going to raise people from the dead and make limbs reappear. But, as   Duke University’s Harold G. Koenig, M.D. says, it can really help your overall health and longevity. Why is that so hard to accept?
AAA speaks of a higher power.  It really doesn't have to be a god.  It can be that prayed puts you in touch with higher elements of your own being.  If you believe in reincarnation, then there could be a part of you with much accumulated wisdom from many lives.  Maybe you tap into that.

Quote from: Segundus on October 13, 2016, 07:21:06 AM
Hey.  I believe in a spiritual life and I also believe we don't have all the answers.  Positive thinking can help us a lot in life.

Agreed. I believe the way I do, and you believe the way you do. That`s what makes the world interesting, my friend.

Lilith

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 05:50:04 AM
Yeah, no. Look, healing, recovering from injury or illness happens as readily without divine intervention. Why do prayers never heal an amputated limb? If prayer were all that powerful there would be no disease left, because every disease that has caused injury, pain, or death has been prayed for over and then over again.

Truth.

This is a great story from President Obama regarding his only interaction with the GREAT Bob Dylan.  And I say that even THOUGH he was swooping hard on my girlfriend -- right in front of me -- at a swanky nightclub back in Ohio many years ago. The guy had balls; I`ll give him that.

Here’s what I love about Dylan: He was exactly as you’d expect he would be. He wouldn’t come to the rehearsal; usually, all these guys are practicing before the set in the evening. He didn’t want to take a picture with me; usually all the talent is dying to take a picture with me and Michelle before the show, but he didn’t show up to that. He came in and played “The Times They Are A-Changin’.” A beautiful rendition. The guy is so steeped in this stuff that he can just come up with some new arrangement, and the song sounds completely different. Finishes the song, steps off the stage â€" I’m sitting right in the front row â€" comes up, shakes my hand, sort of tips his head, gives me just a little grin, and then leaves. And that was it â€" then he left. That was our only interaction with him. And I thought: That’s how you want Bob Dylan, right? You don’t want him to be all cheesin’ and grinnin’ with you. You want him to be a little skeptical about the whole enterprise. So that was a real treat.

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 13, 2016, 07:55:10 AM
This is a great story from President Obama regarding his only interaction with the GREAT Bob Dylan.  And I say that even THOUGH he was swooping hard on my girlfriend -- right in front of me -- at a swanky nightclub back in Ohio many years ago. The guy had balls; I`ll give him that.

Here’s what I love about Dylan: He was exactly as you’d expect he would be. He wouldn’t come to the rehearsal; usually, all these guys are practicing before the set in the evening. He didn’t want to take a picture with me; usually all the talent is dying to take a picture with me and Michelle before the show, but he didn’t show up to that. He came in and played “The Times They Are A-Changin’.” A beautiful rendition. The guy is so steeped in this stuff that he can just come up with some new arrangement, and the song sounds completely different. Finishes the song, steps off the stage â€" I’m sitting right in the front row â€" comes up, shakes my hand, sort of tips his head, gives me just a little grin, and then leaves. And that was it â€" then he left. That was our only interaction with him. And I thought: That’s how you want Bob Dylan, right? You don’t want him to be all cheesin’ and grinnin’ with you. You want him to be a little skeptical about the whole enterprise. So that was a real treat.

Great Dylan story.  He's been known to show up in some weird places sometimes.   There was a story about this guy driving his car in the rain in New Jersey about 6 or 7 years ago and he sees this guy walking in the rain with no umbrella or nothing.  He pulls up to the guy and asks him if he needs a lift.  The guy gets in the car and the driver is shocked to find out it is none other than Dylan himself with his Vincent Price mustache. That story tickled me. I remember there being a little more to it but I can't remember the rest.

onan

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 13, 2016, 07:55:10 AM
This is a great story from President Obama regarding his only interaction with the GREAT Bob Dylan.  And I say that even THOUGH he was swooping hard on my girlfriend -- right in front of me -- at a swanky nightclub back in Ohio many years ago. The guy had balls; I`ll give him that.

Here’s what I love about Dylan: He was exactly as you’d expect he would be. He wouldn’t come to the rehearsal; usually, all these guys are practicing before the set in the evening. He didn’t want to take a picture with me; usually all the talent is dying to take a picture with me and Michelle before the show, but he didn’t show up to that. He came in and played “The Times They Are A-Changin’.” A beautiful rendition. The guy is so steeped in this stuff that he can just come up with some new arrangement, and the song sounds completely different. Finishes the song, steps off the stage â€" I’m sitting right in the front row â€" comes up, shakes my hand, sort of tips his head, gives me just a little grin, and then leaves. And that was it â€" then he left. That was our only interaction with him. And I thought: That’s how you want Bob Dylan, right? You don’t want him to be all cheesin’ and grinnin’ with you. You want him to be a little skeptical about the whole enterprise. So that was a real treat.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 13, 2016, 10:24:40 AM
Great Dylan story.  He's been known to show up in some weird places sometimes.   There was a story about this guy driving his car in the rain in New Jersey about 6 or 7 years ago and he sees this guy walking in the rain with no umbrella or nothing.  He pulls up to the guy and asks him if he needs a lift.  The guy gets in the car and the driver is shocked to find out it is none other than Dylan himself with his Vincent Price mustache. That story tickled me. I remember there being a little more to it but I can't remember the rest.

I posted my story of meeting Dylan sometime in the early 80's, a few years back. I was somewhere in Minneapolis-St. Paul at a printing convention. I was in some swanky hotel at the bar and I noticed a fellow that looked like Dylan. I walked up and asked,  Bob Dylan, right? The answer returned was "fuck off." As I said in the post, it's a tender memory.

Catsmile

No doubt therapeutic touching will result in a happy ending, if the nurse is hot enough. :P

MrHippie

Rare Earth - (I Know) I'm Losing You - Ed Sullivan Show - 09/24/70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2lA3wVFZuw

ab-so-fucking-lute-ly
Thankyou 1970
USA USA USA USA USA USA

albrecht

I just heard a commercial for some product to help HR or bosses hire employees easier. I won't mention the name lest I'm sued  ;) but it sounded very trivial "just a swipe, no emails, no paperwork, no interviews" just a "thumbs up or thumbs down," if I heard it correctly. Obviously headhunters and outsourcing recruiting has been around forever but, usually, those are for technical or high-level positions and you outsource to find that candidate and use a firm that has "connections" and can recruit/vett or to save overhead of doing it in house, but I got a weird vibe about some HR person or boss just looking at some app and deciding someone's career (and their business's future  performance) with a "thumbs up or thumbs down" swipe? Unless, somehow this app or outfit is also actually reading Resumes/CVs, conducting interviews, background checks, education, etc. Is everything just swiping yes/no, now? I know they have it for sex and dating but now for careers also? Bizarre world.

MrHippie

It was probably either TheGeneral  or EddieCoyle who posted something about the Rolling Stones and  Mick Taylor that pointed out that the best Stones music was with Mick Taylor in the group.  He was right.
 
Richards and Taylor are not friendly here, why did they invite Taylor to appear.
Mick Taylor has got some THUMB in this video. 

The Rolling Stones & Mick Taylor - Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Glastonbury
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpwsTyD6XQg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk
Hitler learns Mick Taylor has not been invited on the Stones tour

 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: MrHippie on October 13, 2016, 07:45:05 PM
It was probably either TheGeneral  or EddieCoyle who posted something about the Rolling Stones and  Mick Taylor that pointed out that the best Stones music was with Mick Taylor in the group.  He was right.

I agree with that. Taylor is a great guitarist and master slide player. Also, Richards and Jagger were probably at the height of their writing prowess then. Personally, I don't think any Stones after Tattoo You is worth listening to. I saw them in the 80s and they were a joke live. The rushed through their entire set like a bunch of coke addicts who could wait to get off stage and resume snorting. George Thorogood opened up for them and totally showed them up by making the sun break through the cloud during a drizzly set with his sweet blues. I actually got a chance to see Taylor a few years after that playing guitar in john Mayall's Blues Breakers. Great show! One of the best ever!  8)


pate

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 05:41:06 AM
I really hate this subject. It confuses reduction of stress or anxiety with actual healing. Therapeutic touch works on the same principle as petting a dog. It's nice and all, but it doesn't stop a seizure.


Muck wizen halt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mTlnrXFAXE

Dude abides

pate

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2016, 10:34:52 AM
I posted my story of meeting Dylan sometime in the early 80's, a few years back. I was somewhere in Minneapolis-St. Paul at a printing convention. I was in some swanky hotel at the bar and I noticed a fellow that looked like Dylan. I walked up and asked,  Bob Dylan, right? The answer returned was "fuck off." As I said in the post, it's a tender memory.

After that encounter I encouraged Dylan to write a song lieelk these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SF1iLXSQto

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