How Noory keeps his job -- by an industry insider!

[Uncle Duke]

To me George is like a #3/#4 starting pitcher in MLB.  Those guys are often journeymen who are not spectacular, but they are usually consistent, seldom miss a start, and eat up a lot of innings.  A team doesn't need a guy like that to be a Cy Young candidate, he just has to be steady and reliable.  Ironically, these pitchers frequently wind up being very popular with fans because they seldom complain, don't have superstar egos, and tend to be team oriented.  What's not to like about having someone like that on the payroll?

[ItsOver]

Haha don't know what but something definitely happened to TV.  I dropped out of following current events for maybe a 5-6-year period (busy socializing) and when I came back everyone on the news was younger and much better looking, far more so than can be accounted for by retirements.  Maybe the advent of HD?

For whatever reason, they've concluded that the public wants to listen to attractive people.  Corporate culture being what it is, waiting for this to filter down into radio is, sadly, probably our best shot at getting rid of Noory.  His silly makeover a few years back suggests he's already feeling the pressure.

I stopped watching MS TV probably over 10 years ago.  I dropped DirectTV several years ago and just turn to OTA TV and radio for entertainment, well, besides Bellgab, of course, and, primarily, the internet, for news.  MS TV news is ridiculous today.  If it's not pushing some PC agenda, it's indistinguishable from what used to be Entertainment Tonight fodder.  Look at the TV news anchors of yesterday compared to today.  I doubt this guy could get past being a copy boy in today's news room.  Ted Baxter is more than just a joke.

[PB the Deplorable]

To me George is like a #3/#4 starting pitcher in MLB.  Those guys are often journeymen who are not spectacular, but they are usually consistent, seldom miss a start, and eat up a lot of innings.  A team doesn't need a guy like that to be a Cy Young candidate, he just has to be steady and reliable.  Ironically, these pitchers frequently wind up being very popular with fans because they seldom complain, don't have superstar egos, and tend to be team oriented.  What's not to like about having someone like that on the payroll?

On the other hand, no one goes out to the ballpark to see the #4 starter

[Dateline]

On the other hand, no one goes out to the ballpark to see the #4 starter

But Norry as a #4 starter, croons, dances with star beings, enters in a cloud of smoke, praises the veterans, selects the stage furniture, and changes the light bulbs over the stage.  Yes, and he changes the toilet paper in the transsexual restroom.

[K_Dubb]

I stopped watching MS TV probably over 10 years ago.  I dropped DirectTV several years ago and just turn to OTA TV and radio for entertainment, well, besides Bellgab, of course, and, primarily, the internet, for news.  MS TV news is ridiculous today.  If it's not pushing some PC agenda, it's indistinguishable from what used to be Entertainment Tonight fodder.  Look at the TV news anchors of yesterday compared to today.  I doubt this guy could get past being a copy boy in today's news room.  Ted Baxter is more than just a joke.

Yes, Entertainment Tonight is exactly it!  Breaks my heart to think of the serious, hard-working anchors, even on local news here, who've been put out to pasture well before retirement age.

That mist-tunnel story tells me they've bought in to the whole corporate thing -- probably go on executive retreats with trust falls and other bs designed to promote cults of personal loyalty rather than professional competence.  In that environment, the single biggest threat to Noory's position is some executive, who's probably never heard him, getting tired of seeing his mug on some promotional material.  Any remaining balance on his contract won't be much of an obstacle.

[PB the Deplorable]

The nightly news is a show.  Failed actors paid to read the news, and hold viewers attention long enough to show them commercials.

Journalism is dead in this country, has been for quite sometime.  Probably since the media discovered they had the power to stop a war and bring down a president.

Casting a TV 'news' production is no different from casting a movie or TV show, and in the present environment, it shouldn't be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePG6zUYvUZg 

[Robert]

OI n the other hand, no one goes out to the ballpark to see the #4 starter

True, but I wouldn't tune in Art Bell just to hear Art Bell either.  Well, maybe now I would once or twice, just as at the beginning of MITD, because of the big buildup, but not regularly.  It's about the guests, the topic.

The trouble is the frequency with which Noory deteriorates, dumbs down, or even ruins the show, regardless of the guest.  I wouldn't mind if he did it like Larry King, adding no value, as long as he didn't subtract much.  Sure, I could always complain, "Why doesn't he ask this?", but that's a minor flaw compared with, "Why the fuck is he derailing this?!"  (But honestly, Larry King did a little derailing too when it came to handling phoners-in.)

Noory isn't the journeyman who'll not get hurt, give you many innings, and not get you too far behind.  Noory's the shlub who hits the lead-off batter with a pitch in the tush, throws the next pitch to the backstop to get him to 2nd, then bears down & throws a slow strike that gets knocked out of the park, etc.  And you have the impression that football's more his game.

[Robert]

Yes, Entertainment Tonight is exactly it!  Breaks my heart to think of the serious, hard-working anchors, even on local news here, who've been put out to pasture well before retirement age.

Let's hope that doesn't happen to George Knapp.  Of course his loss might be our gain, but I wouldn't wish that on him.

That mist-tunnel story tells me they've bought in to the whole corporate thing -- probably go on executive retreats with trust falls and other bs designed to promote cults of personal loyalty rather than professional competence.

OOOO, I HATE THAT!  When I was hired at National Medical Care, Inc., the agent who got me the job said I was to have complete loyalty to the dept. head, Conor Curtin (whom you can look up, and had recently assumed the post).  I was like, WTF?  He doesn't write me checks.  My loyalty's to the business, to do the job they're paying me for.  And indeed I found out over the next 2 yrs. that it was all about people making people look good, or not to look bad, regardless of the consequences for the business.  My supervisor quit in the 1st of those years, even with no other job to go to.  I got fired, but it's no wonder they were under a grand jury probe a year later, and wound up a year after that being bought & dismembered by their supplier, Fresenius.  But Conor Curtin did fine, it seems.

Shortly after I was hired at NMC, they had just embarked on a testing project to determine why a certain reported defect in one of their supplies was occurring.  In fairly short order, by going around the prescribed lines of corporate structure, I was able to determine that what'd been reported as a defect was not a defect at all, but simply a misunderstanding caused by the boss in one dept. not understanding something the boss in another dept. said, and the failure to get clarif'n.  When I pointed this out to my supv., he understood perfectly, but eventually had to conclude that aborting the expensive research project would involve embarrassment to those at fault, and since we might learn something from the project anyway, it proceeded.  Shortly before I was fired, I did some similar investig'n to find out that another miscommunication had resulted in inconsistent results in product tests, which was a research project under way at that time.

It'd really burn to find out Noory's doing the job he's doing because of shit like that.  I think he probably has talent that's worse than wasted.  From what I can tell, he really should be in acting; too bad there's no call for that in radio these days.

[Uncle Duke]

Noory isn't the journeyman who'll not get hurt, give you many innings, and not get you too far behind.  Noory's the shlub who hits the lead-off batter with a pitch in the tush, throws the next pitch to the backstop to get him to 2nd, then bears down & throws a slow strike that gets knocked out of the park, etc.  And you have the impression that football's more his game.

I think it's safe to say his employer disagrees with you.  George is there night in and night out, no narcissistic dramas or tantrums, and good enough at his job to make the show profitable.  To my knowledge he's never embarrassed the network with tawdry off air episodes, in fact he appears to represent the brand positively.  Not overly talented obviously, but steady and reliable. 

[Robert]

I think it's safe to say his employer disagrees with you.  George is there night in and night out, no narcissistic dramas or tantrums, and good enough at his job to make the show profitable.  To my knowledge he's never embarrassed the network with tawdry off air episodes, in fact he appears to represent the brand positively.  Not overly talented obviously, but steady and reliable.

So was John B. Wells.  The tantrum started after they got rid of him.

[K_Dubb]

I think it's safe to say his employer disagrees with you.  George is there night in and night out, no narcissistic dramas or tantrums, and good enough at his job to make the show profitable.  To my knowledge he's never embarrassed the network with tawdry off air episodes, in fact he appears to represent the brand positively.  Not overly talented obviously, but steady and reliable.

That is an excellent point.  Given employers' propensity for assessing performance in relative terms, the Art drama may be the biggest thing that keeps him there.

[Robert]

That is an excellent point.  Given employers' propensity for assessing performance in relative terms, the Art drama may be the biggest thing that keeps him there.

I guess they don't consider his vulnerability to microwaveable food.

When Tom Welling acted on Smallville, he said the producers forbade him to play the sport he loved, basketball, because of the chance he could get a minor injury like a black eye that would be hard to get away with as Clark Kent.  I wonder if C2C's producers now have an order for Noory to avoid microwaving food & drink.

[cweb]

So was John B. Wells.  The tantrum started after they got rid of him.

Wells kept going against what the show's powers wanted. He would not tone it down and play nice. Wells is obviously a bigger talent than Noory, but George would stop using the word "the" if Premrat told him to.

Yes, Wells starting his own show played into it as well. Why listen to Coast for Wells Lite when you can get Wells Unfiltered during the week?

[ItsOver]

Jorch shows up when he's supposed to, doesn't make waves with his employer, doesn't want to take vacations, doesn't demand much in compensation, when compared to others in his position.  Sounds like the perfect employee, as long as the employer doesn't have to listen him.  If they're ever required to listen to him, Jorch will fit right in at his new job at the DMV.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Even if Noory does show up every day it is a mistake to keep him on.

In entertainment, you make money with smash hits. They should change the hosts until they find a smash hit.

[Robert]

Even if Noory does show up every day it is a mistake to keep him on.

In entertainment, you make money with smash hits. They should change the hosts until they find a smash hit.

I've known stations to do that in daytime radio talk.  No reason they couldn't do it in late night too.  In fact, they could also use late night as the farm team, looking for talent until they find some ready for prime time.

[AZZERAE]

None of this isht explains how Noory keeps his job

In the words of Marty McFly, all I want is a straight answer

[ItsOver]

None of this isht explains how Noory keeps his job

In the words of Marty McFly, all I want is a straight answer

[Chocolate coated jackboot]

what are his ratings like?

[PB the Deplorable]

Radio ratings aren't made public.  That's how they can all claim to be #1, fastest growing, etc

[Uncle Duke]

Radio ratings aren't made public.  That's how they can all claim to be #1, fastest growing, etc

Arbitron ratings aren't made public anymore?

[PB the Deplorable]

Arbitron ratings aren't made public anymore?

I don't recall them ever being public.  At least not the specifics

[Robert]

None of this isht explains how Noory keeps his job

In the words of Marty McFly, all I want is a straight answer

The problem is probably multifactorial.  Many factors have been advanced here, and it's hard to rank them in importance other than by putting Srednivashtar's velleity idea either 1st or last.  That is, mere velleity would seem to be the weakest possible reason to affect the issue; OTOH, if velleity is all that's required to get the audience or advertisers, then that would explain a lot.

[Robert]

Art Bell was scary-fun, but Noory is comforting-bland to the audience

I woke up last night to hear evidence of that from a phoner-in.  Kind of silly given the subject matter.  But what the heck, if they keep a segment of the audience by being a comforting familiar voice, & another segment by being, as one blogger calls it, The Ghost of Coast, with paranormal subjects, I guess that works for them.

[Laurakinch]

None of this isht explains how Noory keeps his job

[Yorkshire pud]

I think it's safe to say his employer disagrees with you.  George is there night in and night out, no narcissistic dramas or tantrums, and good enough at his job to make the show profitable.  To my knowledge he's never embarrassed the network with tawdry off air episodes, in fact he appears to represent the brand positively.  Not overly talented obviously, but steady and reliable.

Just imagine if he threw his toys out (again), then he imagined he had a stalker, and get his protege to call the police on his behalf; perpetuate the stalker bollox, all on top of marrying a woman old enough to be his daughter. Then those who can't stand him but find ways of trying to get cheap laughs in some ludicrous way of trying to get him off air, might really have something to judge him with. If I were Noory, I'd be wetting myself laughing, because he's the one who has his show, and getting paid great money for it.