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Another great episode last night, with guest Maryam Henein. She suffers a bit from Alex Jones-esque topic ADHD, and threw a few wacky ideas into the mix, but I mostly found her to be thought provoking and on the right track. Can't believe I hadn't yet made the correlation between all the low level prisoners being released for Covid and now the epidemic of criminals rioting and looting... Seems so obvious.

Del Bigtree was a surprisingly good interview as well. Both he and Henein had more flexibility regarding Covid than I expected. Its easy to forget that people can be reasonable on this topic when so many idiots spout off in DLive chat about "the virus is a hoax". Most people are willing to entertain more nuanced opinions and I suspect the actual amount of people who think there is no virus or pathogen whatsoever is actually incredibly minuscule. They just happen to be the loudest and most disruptive.

Bigtree episode provoked me to download Vaxxed 1 and 2 and they were excellent docs. I like the roads MITD is leading me down. Great ride so far!

Quote from: Lilith on July 19, 2020, 04:44:17 PM
The Rubini Magic is GONE!   

Good riddance!!

Quote from: VC on July 18, 2020, 06:46:55 PM
Whom are these occult leaders, these magicians, that helped you draw such (Screener) insightful conclusions? Name them. Please.

I don't have any leaders. It's been a road, a journey... I take it all in and then find a way to make it all make sense based on my understanding of the world as I perceive it. Its not my fault... born this way, I guess. Of course I like hearing from people who observe things similarly but I also take in any alternative explanations anyone wants to share with me and I like and respect many people - public figures and in my personal life - that in no way share my beliefs.. I'm not under any spells... I'd rewrite everything I said above if information came my way that made more sense and felt like truth in my gut. But, unfortunately, people who seem to want to sway me (especially aggressively) usually seem to present "evidence" that stinks of indoctrination. I ain't into that.

Quote from: VC on July 18, 2020, 04:43:26 PM
Just waiting for your quick and easy answers to those three questions already posed.

Is it too hard to do, or the third time is the charm, as it is the third time, now.

I have no idea what happened to the Pentagon but nothing, ever, ever, ever has made me once think a commercial airplane hit it.

I think "Earth" is best described as a realm, a shared place brought into reality by conscious beings interpreting its code. What lies beyond what we perceive? Lifeless, worthless code, most of it probably unfinished (like all the extra data left by the programmers on a Nintendo cartridge that you will never see if just playing the game and not analyzing the extracted code, ie. unfinished levels, unused characters/enemies, etc.) Earth has no defined shape because it would be a waste of processing power to render it when nothing living is observing it. Same goes for space, outwardly... its just more extra code. Infinitely vast? Or really just the size of whatever brain cells are sparking to make you think you're seeing something.  It means nothing without something living looking up and seeing it, and even then we should be more perplexed by our ability to perceive anything, let alone obsessing over that black ceiling with specks of twinkling light on it. It might as well be a giant LCD screen. I'm not saying it is literally... it just might as well be. Would never make the tiniest difference to 99.99999% of living things in their life. Because you're never going to get to examine it. Its just fucking code. The same way an LCD screen displays code... a means to an end.

I don't know if anything living has set foot on the moon, whatever the hell that weird thing up there is. People with power have figured out that everything's code and they've figured out how to manipulate it to appear how they will it to... they're magicians. And they've got you tricked with your "the government's technology is 50 years ahead of the public's". I'm sure that's what they want you to think... because they're magicians. Moon landing 1969 was clearly smoke and mirrors to anyone who looks at it outside of their spell.

VC, you are the reason why people rag on boomers. Know-it-alls from another version of reality. I'm surprised you're not telling Nathan he needs to go back to college.

Quote from: VC on July 17, 2020, 10:20:47 AM
I took the time to provide you with a lot of details regarding 9/11. In turn, please tell us what you think happened, and what information you rely on to draw your conclusions?

VC,

I think 9/11 was a media created hoax of monumental proportions.

Remember, this is what we saw the morning of 9/11 (If you view source video at full size something looking like a small silver disc flies into the building from upper right corner. At this size it just appears to NOTHING)



Superseded by footage like this:



Superseded by footage like this:



I don't know about you but looks FAKE AS FUCK TO ME.

Quote from: VC on July 17, 2020, 08:18:29 AM
Obvious inside and outside Intel, a well planned attack by possible rouge elements within Nation States and/or subversive anarchists within those Nation States including the USA. Also, the beginning of insane Inside Job conspiracy theories like Loose Change (done by a nobody 20 something kid) that really put Alex Jones on the map nationally. Loose Change is the beginning of the Fake News era of raging conspiracies mostly done by armchair Internet blue pilled Matrix basement dwellers in their teens and twenties. YouTube gave these Blue Pills the platform to create the Nathan's of the world. These people are such obvious military and espionage experts to rely on. LOL.

Building 7 MIGHT be a controlled demolition. But I'm told there are pictures of the debris field on other sides NOT USED by Truthers that call into question the demolition theory. It was NOT a neat pile demolition field all the way around the building proving demolition. Building 7 had a design flaw for the kind of damage it sustained from one of the Twin Towers and the diesel fires. I know about it. The building might have been demolitioned to protect the top secret information it contained with DOD and CIA offices there considering that area was under immediate attack. Demolish the building, so no one can steal or access the top secret information. Don't forget. The Pentagon was hit by another airliner too. No! It was NOT a missile for any of you Blue Pilled morons that believe that! Retards.

Anyway, the USA got caught with its pants down to be butt fucked by the enemies within and without. The Twin Towers were well known targets, and the method of attack, fully fueled airliners, was well known to be likely weapons. Are there Top Secret and/or subversive cover-ups about what really happened? Of course!

Can our government be infiltrated by the enemy within/without for such attacks? Of course! Did that happen? Of course! Does Loose Change have the answer?! Of course, NOT. Idiots!

A real life true example of extremely dangerous WMD conspiracy is some subversive elements within our nation that wanted to help Israel get nukes did just that by stealing weapons grade plutonium. How 'bout that for real life conspiracy that factually happened. Why aren't you conspiracy theorists focusing on that WMD attack!?

You know what, VC? You could be right. But you are outnumbered and you are a dying breed whether you like it or not. So was Art Bell and that's why he refused to talk about 9/11. The basement dwellers are inheriting the Earth and they think (at least in regards to some of your views) that you live in a delusional boomer fantasy. Maybe that will be the destruction of everything good in this world, who knows. But I'm sure there were lots of people who thought people were wasting their time talking about UFO's and Bigfoot all the time, too. No one wants to listen to radio they don't find exciting or thought provoking. If the majority of listeners represent that new generation that thinks your views are antiquated, they're gonna win out and popular content will reflect that.

Personally, I'm sick of the notion that truthers, conspiracy theorists, whatever the hell you want to call them, bear the burden of proof. That's bullshit. Broadly speaking, above all, the television told your generation what to believe and offered really half-assed proof of it. If someone's gonna show up on my TV and tell me some people got on a device that shot them up to that glowing circle in the sky, they have the burden of proof because there's no reason I should have to believe it. When they offer proof full of inconsistencies and logic-defying explanations I can choose to opt out. When the same people show up to tell me a bunch of buildings fell in NY and I wasn't there to see it and then they weave a story that should win an award for its oversimplifications and omitted vital information, yeah, I can opt out and I'm gonna wanna listen to theories from others who feel the same.

Quote from: VC on July 16, 2020, 06:47:06 PM
I did not call-in to tell beta Nathan how to do his show. I cut straight to the heart of the matter here, as I see it. That's being a friendly critic and a performance troll in our snowflake "safe space" here! Welcome to our world. Post often! Sincerely!

I think Nathan is talented with some serious blind spots that will ruin his Open Lines show if changes aren't made. The sooner the better. The critique is honestly given here. Take it or leave it.

Of course, I would NEVER want Nathan to emulate AB, nor could he. Read my posts in this thread, and it is perfectly clear I've never thought that way.

The MITD audience was hijacked into highlighting Flat Earth, No Moon Landings, and Crisis Actor conspiracies everywhere! LOL. Good Luck with that shit. It obviously works for screen babies that suckled on YT/SM/FB/IG without ever leaving the blue pill basement Matrix and not knowing life for what it is outside YT (and such SM places) in RL beyond coffee houses and eating out and MOAR zombie cell time while on the outside too. Fucking assholes never went to NASA or will do real scientific learning in universities and/or at MIC or high-tech institutions and companies of the modern era to investigate anything beyond their software app armchair heads and mind skull fucking each other on YT and SM screen time elsewhere. Maybe they'll become a home grown software app geek slave-armed to tablets and cell phones. That's just a few good reasons why you're being marginalized and outcast. Idiots. You've joined your Fight Club. You're the in-group that really isn't. It's all cult following.

Your M.O. is mostly teens and young angry man-childs that don't do real work building things in the RW like rocket ships to go to the Moon and Mars or near Earth orbit. You don't even go on-sight RW to learn what idiots you are, but you use the GPS to get you to your 1D flatland destinations, which is your nowhere, because the Earth is NOT flat in a global sense.

You're the 1D Cult in a 4D RW.

There's A LOT of autistic and MK-Ultra and MOSTLY Ink In The Well brain damage going on inside your big bad vast conspiracy world of SM being your Screen Life Dominatrix. You're nothing but Screen Life Pawns! Putty in the hands of subversive enemies that have a lot of misdirected hate going on between your group think SM cults.

Performance Art. Though you must admit you do have a striking family resemblance to Nathan. It's undeniable, though Bro.

VC, if you had to sum up what you think happened on 9/11 in a few sentences, what would you write?

Quote from: Richard Groyper on July 16, 2020, 06:14:10 PM
lol i was just joking about the wife part. ive seen you over in the LTV chat.

It's all good, brother! Its just funny. I've been accused of being I think 5 different people on here, mostly by Rubini when he was spiraling. But VC said I was Nathan's brother. I though he was joking at the time but now I'm thinking he's drinking the same Kool-Aid Rubini is.

Whachoo talkin bout, Groyper? You had a conversation with me and her simultaneously the other night in LTV chat.

You just trying to stoke the conspiracy flames over here?

Haha.

VC...

...you think moon landing stuff is conspiracy lunacy...

...but to me you sound like an absolute NUT with your Nathan vs. Rubini conspiracy...

Art bell is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. What he did is dated and most people don't give much of a shit about it.

Do you think AB would want someone to emulate him or pioneer something new? I'm sure lots of opinionated people had lots to say about Art when he got started... some things have to be learned by trial and error... not at the demand of loudmouth callers.

Rubini, I'm all about justice and could easily empathize with your plight.

#ChoseGreatHost
#BookedGreatGuests
#UncensoredRadio

But you gotta work on that public persona, bro. You've left quite a trail of hostility.

#PublicMeltdown

I'm pretty sure a judge could rule you're too aggressive and unreasonable to work with, especially when all you had was verbal contracts.

#PickYourBattles
#Don'tBurnAllYourBridges

I don't need a refund for MITD if Nathan Stolpman's gonna keep doing it.

How far do you really want me to dox myself on here?

Check your e-mail for the original one I sent, the one I reposted as an "open letter" on this forum. That's my real name and PayPal e-mail address if you must know who I am.

You're leaving something out, Rubini.

The part where you said something to the effect of "Sending Nathan back to Youtube" implying you were firing him and replacing with Stein. If all control was yours you clearly would have canned him for "disrespecting you" and replaced him with that idiot Stein. Doesn't imply a very sound mind on your part.

Makes a paying subscriber feel like they got taken in by a bait and switch.

I'm just a loudmouth LTV fan who wants what I paid for when I subscribed to MITD... that's all. No conspiracy.

Sad thing is I actually think the dynamic with you and Nathan had was pretty fun.

But you took it too far and made some serious mistakes... can't figure out whether its organic or drug induced. But for some reason you couldn't just own what an ass you made of yourself on the radio. And your plan to cancel Nathan and replace with Stein could only be concocted by someone in a compromised mental state.

Quote from: VC on July 14, 2020, 03:53:36 AM
Fucking awesome post. A REAL Bellgabber! Based.

Thanks, VC!

I'm gonna duck out... Rubini's imagining me to be someone I'm not because he clearly suffers from delusional paranoia. And no one told me to think that... I figured it out for myself listening to him frantically try to control that call in show where he made such an ass of himself.

I'm a long time Lift the Veil fan. I subscribed to MITD for Nathan Stolpman. Deliver me what I'm paying for or be prepared to issue refunds, motherfucker.

No disrespect to any of you because you all seem like such lovely people, but a lotta y'all seem pretty stuck in the past.

That's not the way to pioneer new, provocative, top-tier entertainment.

Rubini's instincts with YoungStolp are the equivalent of a manager finding a young, up-and-coming-band with a unique sound and then converting them into a Van Halen cover band so boomers can drink to them at a bar.

Rubini, you can say whatever you want about me and what I think. But you're the guy who apparently thought people were gonna pay $5 subscriptions to listen to Alex Stein irritate them.

You also thought 5 phone lines was necessary on a fledgling show reboot with a handful of callers.

#ButThat'sBecauseThat'sTheWayArtDidIt!!!!

Yeah, I'm there when I can be... LTV is one of my favorite shows. Its gotten so late I have to listen the next day a lot of the time but I'm in the chat when I can be. But the drama Rubini has inflicted on the whole thing is immensely retarded. Doesn't have to be this way...

Open e-mail to David Rubini from MattyBrown, MITD subscriber.

Subject: Get it together man... its so simple!!


No one is going to pay to listen to Stein. No one.

You are milking the MITD name for all its worth and forcing unnatural situations on YoungStolp or anyone else you give the timeslot to.

Put MITD to rest unless you can get some kind of legacy talent...

Play Art Bell MITD reruns at Midnight... ya know, Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert.

Give YoungStolp a reasonable time slot and let LTV thrive as your flagship program.

SO SIMPLE!!!!

-Matty Brown