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Quote from: pyewacket on May 19, 2017, 01:59:40 PM
Now that I've caught my breath after laughing so hard- thank you! I really needed that.

I think some of us are confusing two very different concepts here- slavery vs. forced encampment- granted there may be some overlap, but overall, these are two very different concepts. One is based on acquiring and prolonging that acquisition while the other involves literally working someone to death as quickly as possible.

Wow- you think I'm a lefty and SV thinks I'm a Nazi. No points for either one of you- you're both wrong.

Clowns to the left of me- jokers to right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q   

I can not hear this song and not think of cutting someone's ear off....Thanks Tarantino 

Quote from: gnooryblows on May 19, 2017, 10:54:51 AM
actually it was the 19th, we're both wrong. 15th gave the blacks the vote (another mistake)

no, i'm not an idiot, i wrote the post hurriedly at 4AM right before i went to bed and for some reason, in this unfortunate case, i unthinkingly got my 10th and 19th amendment fucked up, probably because the 10th amendment did have to do with voting rights, but voting rights of the blacks and whatnot because states used it to deny them the suffrage. boo hoo big deal, right? not a mistake that anybody would make or anything, right? not when you can use it as fodder to go after someone who you disagree with!!

"oh man! he casually messed up the 10th and 19th amendment! he must be a moron! everything he says must be bunk and false!"

i did extensive youtube videos / research in the past on the history of voting in this country (mostly for the sake of defending jim crow laws, which the 10th amendment was important for), but for whatever reason the wires get crossed occasionally, especially when talking about numbers, dont they? i must just be dumb according to you, man who never makes a casual mistake when he's speaking

I would like it to be changed, military service as a prerequisite to vote (starship troopers). My rational if a person is not willing to put their life on the line for the country they do not deserve a say in the destiny.

Full disclosure I am an asshole   

10th amendment is states rights the 15th is voting.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 17, 2017, 10:29:36 AM
It's all strategy now. The GOP is holding back because they don't want to own the removal/impeachment of Trump and risk losing the still loyal MAGA voters for the mid terms next year. They want it to look as if they gave Trump a fair chance to pull it together, but it was out of their hands. Meanwhile, Chaffetz, as the chairman of the oversight committee looks like he's just doing his job in a non-partisan way. They put their man Pence in, with maybe Chaffetz as Vice-Pres and go about their business.

It is a little late for that, I hate most of the Republicans. 

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 17, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
I guess we'll wait and see, but I sense a lot of hand-wringing, maybe an statement here or there about "Disappointment" but I don't see anything of substance. I would guess they will ride it out until the mid-terms and see where it goes from there.

I would not mind being wrong, McCain was the one that handed off the fake Russian dossier.

Quote from: Spy on May 17, 2017, 09:37:10 AM
William Sessions was accused of improperly using an FBI plane to visit his family as well as reportedly installing a security fence around his home on the government’s dime. A Justice Department report found that Sessions had avoided paying taxes on the use of his FBI limousine for his daily commute.

Clinton fired William Sessions for ethics violations. Trump fired Comey, apparently, in an effort to derail Comey's Trump/Russia investigation. If Trump were to pardon Flynn it would just throw more fuel on the fire.  Ford's pardoning of Nixon isn't comparable to any of what's going on now but it did cost him the election of 1976.

Trump fired Comey for being incompetent in his job everyone knows that. There was a really good article on ALL of the FBI's failures under his watch. Exactly what crimes is Flynn accused of?

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 17, 2017, 09:31:04 AM

I don't see that happening. There's been a pattern of story breaks, claims of concern, but when push comes to shove they back down or spin it in another direction. I mentioned Noory and Art are pretty similar, well there is very little difference between Trump and the GOP. They'll fake concern, but still will try to cover for him.

I have to disagree the GOP loves to destroy their own, especially if it benefits them as an individual. 

Quote from: albrecht on May 17, 2017, 09:02:30 AM
Out of curiosity what would the media and Hollywood do if Trump pardoned Flynn, or whoever else, (like Ford did Nixon) even if there are no charges or the investigation isn't over? Surely, it would be legal (like his firing of Comey. I don't recall much bitching when Clinton fired Sessions- first time a President fired an FBI Director- and, if being consistent, Democrats should have welcomed Comey's firing since he, according to them, cost Hillary the election.) And the Democrats always bitching about "Russian" wikileaks but no complaint about Manning's activity with them or complaints about Obama pardoning Manning because of his "transition."

The hypocrisy has no limits, they know that the media will not call them on it. There base does not care, they really don't Hillary screwed over Bernie and he took it and smiled. No matter what the cost to the country even another world war they will pay it if it brings Trump down.

This is what Putin said "What surprises me is that they are shaking up the domestic political situation using anti-Russian slogans. Either they don't understand the damage they're doing to their own country, in which case they are simply stupid, or they understand everything, in which case they are dangerous and corrupt."  When the President of Russia can say something like that and be correct, that is bad.   

Quote from: Spy on May 17, 2017, 08:37:57 AM
Some of the intelligence Trump provided to Russian officials is so secret that American news organizations are still being asked not to report it, two U.S. officials told NBC News.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/trump-gave-russians-secrets-news-orgs-are-being-asked-withhold-n760811

"one of the West's best windows into ISIS, was in jeopardy in the wake of the president's disclosure. Should read "medias disclosure."

I am of the opinion the President should go nuclear on the establishment. All the classified executive privilege info from Fast and Furious release it, all of it.   

ignore my previous post 44053 emails to wikki leaks.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/murdered-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-had-sent-44000-internal-emails-to-wikileaks-report/article/2623186

It is being alleged by the family the PI is not in their employee so...... That will probably be the excuse the MSM not picking it up. 

Will this also be the Russian's?

"When we asked Wheeler if his sources have told him there is information that links Rich to Wikileaks, he said, “Absolutely. Yeah. That's confirmed."
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/254852337-story

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2017, 10:54:48 AM
At least the Podesta "art" wasn't his own kids, even if underage or close to it. But this is weird, even though she is an adult and obviously consented to pose for the photograph why would a dad send it out? And then get into flame wars over it with the public's response to the creepy factor? The guy is a lawyer, presumably he would think before tweeting randomly and sending our pictures of his scantily-clad daughter?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/15/trump-attorney-michael-cohen-tweets-photo-of-his-college-aged-daughter-in-lingerie/
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/trump-lawyer-posts-sexy-lingerie-pic-of-his-daughter-and-twitter-responded-as-youd-expect/

WTF serious

Well this is interesting

Attorney General Jeff Sessions made a big announcement about increasing prison sentences, at the same time that Jared is working on criminal-justice reform

Next victim
https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-irked-at-cabinet-and-staff-mulls-sweeping-shake-up-2407137307.html

Then I would guess that everyone that is slamming the south will agree that states like California, Colorado etc that legalized Marijuana should be punished harshly. 

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 12, 2017, 04:17:33 PM
Sure, as long as Trump is blameless for anything, ever.

Dude....The FBI tried to bribe the guy to LIE, TO FUCKING LIE. You don't have a problem with this?   

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on May 12, 2017, 01:32:01 PM
You know if he took that deal, and after he testified he would suddenly become suicidal and would be found with two gunshot wounds to the back of the head in an apparent "suicide".

The Clinton Cartel.  Liberals really wanted this corrupt wench to be President.

He get Benghazied

Jesus these people are pulling out ALL the stops.

"the FBI visited him at least a couple of times, offering to drop the charges and grant him U.S. citizenship as well as cash and an apartment in the U.S. if the Russian national confessed to participating in the 2016 hacks of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta's emails in July."

""[They told me:] you will have to confess to breaking into Clinton's inbox for [U.S. President Donald Trump] on behalf of [Russian President Vladimir Putin],” Nikulin wrote, according to....

I guess if you have no evidence then buy it.

Source: http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-investigation-clinton-emails-russia-hack-607538

Quote from: pyewacket on May 12, 2017, 11:11:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F0Hv9TUrfs

God that made my head hurt.....Could be a drinking game every time someone says investigation DRINK. Would lead to alcohol poisoning though. 

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 12, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Half a dozen things  in the Obama administration should have been investigated by a special prosecutor.  I'll bring up one that nobody has bothered mentioning in the last 3 months and personally it is the one that bothered me the most.  Lois Lerner and the IRS.  A Quinnipiac poll found that 76% of respondents wanted an independent special counsel and that included 63% of Democrats.  No counsel was hired.

Fast and Furious and the IRS Scandal. Louis Lerner made an opening statement then pleaded the 5th which I did not think you could do but then again Obama admin.

Who wants to bet she is a SJW nut bag

http://www.wbbjtv.com/2017/05/11/obion-co-woman-charged-chasing-u-s-rep-david-kustoff/

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 11, 2017, 02:30:25 PM
I'm not interested in debating the 2nd amendment, only the modern day fears experienced by working in an environment where a growing number of mentally unstable people are also armed.

You could also learn to use a firearm, buy one and protect yourself? Call that empowerment. (I am assuming you are female if I am wrong sorry) 

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 11, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
What it did was return the legal precedent to what it was prior to an executive action that Obama took.

The constitution has a bill of rights. One of those is the 2nd amendment.

There is legal precedent for infringing on that right, but until Obama's executive action, they all required due process. Meaning a court order. Not a bureaucrat determining that because you need help with your social security check deposit, that you should not be allowed to own a firearm.

The executive action provided no legal recourse to challenge getting your name in the database and no legal recourse to remove your name should your mental capacity improve.

There is a similar dilemma with the no-fly list. There is no due process involved with being placed on the no-fly list. That is why someone on the no-fly list can still purchase a gun as long as they meet the other background check requirements. This shoukd be fixed by adding a due process requirement to the no-fly list.

Thanks for the details.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 11, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
I don't think it was ever used but Rule 9 with its vague wording "Condition of mind.." "declination", etc, would have revealed Trump's problematic psychological issues, though impeachment still remains their ultimate way out.
http://ballotpedia.org/Rule_9_and_the_2016_presidential_election
[edit: wrong Rule 9, fixed, thanks G]

Rule 9 of the national GOP rules permits RNC leaders to fill presidential candidate vacancies “which may occur by death, declination, or otherwise.” Humphrey argues that the word “otherwise” would apply to Trump’s case.

lol, "otherwise"

http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/08/10/never-trump-senator-invokes-rule-9-gop-national-rules-opportunity-dump-trump/

I don't know why we demand that our military leaders (below the chain of command) undergo rigorous physical and psychological exams for top secret positions in government, but allow any crazy person to become president.

Trump is not going to be impeached just stop with that, what we may see is a lot of prominent Democrats and Republicans go down. I am ok with it great entertainment.

"undergo rigorous physical and psychological exams for top secret positions" pftt it is not what you think buddy. I had a secret clearance and several of my friends have top secret, it is really about not getting caught.

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 11, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
Yeah. I copied it without clicking. I linked to a better one.

Have to sign in

That said I support this just because a person is "crazy" does not mean they are dangerous. Inevitably the state would have used this to disarm veterans. They would say anyone with PTSD was mentally ill and that would have been that. You could say I was being paranoid get a tin hat or what ever trust me they would have done it.

As an example: "The 9th Federal Circuit Court has upheld the ATF’s interpretation on possession of a medical marijuana card as “intermediate proof” that you have no right to possess, transfer or purchase firearms and ammunition."

If you live in a state that has legalized medical marijuana and a person applies they are voluntarily forfeiting their second amendment rights.

Yep glad he signed it.

Source: http://concealednation.org/2016/09/federal-court-rules-medical-marijuana-patients-have-no-second-amendment-rights/     

Quote from: gnooryblows on May 11, 2017, 01:23:58 PM
socialism won't work in the long term. S&P cut our governments rating back in 2011 - > https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/sandp-considering-first-downgrade-of-us-credit-rating/2011/08/05/gIQAqKeIxI_story.html?utm_term=.ce62a30bc998) when it seemed like our currency might even possibly crash there was all sorts of prognostication of economic doom back then, i remember. it was a fun time to be alive. now canada axing these big banks ratings. this is because socialism always works in the beginning. because our nations are only slowly CREEPING towards socialism, the effects are similarly slow and creeping. a AA+ rating is still a very very good rating, but it indicates the beginnings of change. the slow, unavoidable downfall of what happens in socialist nations. want to see the expedited version? just look at what's happened in venezuela over the past few years.

even though this is a cut on the banks rating, not the governments, the amazing thing is that canada actually has far less debt than the US and a far better debt to GDP ratio. banks and government are obviously tightly interwoven, so when will the hammer fall on the US? one day we WILL default because our current system is unsustainable. i don't think any of these children running around preaching about socialism understand the first thing about debt and how it does eventually need to be paid out lol

clock is always ticking - > http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Looking at those numbers gave me a seizure WTF

Another socialist utopia crumbles.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/moodys-banks-1.4109847

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 11, 2017, 12:13:26 PM
Nixon was smart enough to resign in time, Trump will lie right up to the end. Except for lap dog Ryan and a few other yes men, the GOP knows Trump is too much of a distraction from their agenda.

That is not exactly correct. The Republican party had a come to Jesus meeting with him and said that if he did not resign they would vote for impeachment.

That is one of the big differences between Republicans and Democrats. All of the Democrats will jump on the grenade for party no matter what it does to the country, Republicans on the other hand will shove each other under the bus.

Modern GOP is the perfect example McCain is the one handed the fake dossier to Comey.

Gov. Robert Bentley Alabama said he could no longer vote for Donald Trump in wake of the GOP presidential nominee’s sexually charged words about women. He made a big deal about said Trump should step aside.

Source: https://www.apnews.com/8e7a012be43842cdb8b60fb850bed696/Alabama-governor-says-he-can-no-longer-vote-for-Trump
Turns out the good govena was having an affair and he had to resign. LOL       

One of the alphabet soup agency's are in the process of raiding a GOP fundraising firm in MD. It would fucking HILARIOUS if they were some how tied to the DNC hacks or Podesta's fishing. The place is touted for pioneering the use of technology in political campaigns.

Totally not out of the realm of possibility. GOP hated Trump hell they were trying to find ways for him NOT to be the nominee.

Obama started an international incident, kicking the Russian diplomats out for "allegedly" interfering in out elections. The intelligence agency's including Comey are on record saying it is the Russian's.

What happens if it turns out these clowns were the ones behind it.

http://www.wbaltv.com/article/fbi-searching-annapolis-fundraiserconsulting-firm/9639787 

   

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 11, 2017, 11:57:33 AM
It won't be long now.
#IMPEACH

Nixon was never impeached. Bill Clinton on the other hand was impeached his "dick" was not as tricky.