Agree, Radical Islamic invasions of civilized established cities and states have been going on before Columbus set sail to the Bahamas. So those (non specific finger pointing) that say America started the violence by going there have selective amnesia, America deployed forces there long ago because of UN and multinational actions. They could not even live peaceful among themselves.
Quote from: henge0stone on November 17, 2015, 04:41:24 PM
Certainly your not suggesting that these countries in the middle east were peaceful wonderful societies until we horrible Americans came in there? Terrorist in the Middle east have been blowing up mosques and committing horrible attacks on their fellow citizens long before America showed up.
After 9/11 I think the invasion of Afghanistan was perfectly justified given the fact that the government was sponsoring the Al Queda terrorists. it was a coalition at that time and many countries were behind us.
After that Iraq and every almost every other action in the Middle east was a mistake, but to pretend like the Middle east wasn't screwed up before we got there is a mistake.
Just because we funded Al Queda at one point (when they were fighting the USSR I think? could be wrong) doesn't give them the right to kill innocent people here or in the middle east, or anywhere else.
I always find it funny that its okay for Isis and radical terrorist groups to want us dead (even before 2001 they hated us for backing Israel) yet when someone like Art says they want to nuke and kill the terrorists who only want death to us its suddenly inappropriate.
Isis only formed after we left Iraq, and yes we may have created a power vacuum for them to form, but that doesn't give them the right to indiscriminately kill and commit terror.