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Someone with WormHole Access pls tell Art that this guy is killing us lol

Can't wait to hear some real Science when is Dr. Michio kaku coming back

I'm not buying anything this guy says...he's too evasive ... and flip flops from topic to topic Art has keep pulling him back on the topic

Quote from: chefist on August 12, 2015, 02:28:50 PM
Very true...as a chemist I would LOVE to see someone turn lead into gold! However, that is just beyond our technical capabilities now...perhaps in 1000 years we will be able to control and manipulate matter at the atomic level in order to do that...but now any story such as that would just be fantasy...but still fun mythology! 

Isaac Newton thought lead could be turned into gold 

Quote from: griffen247 on August 12, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
Has anyone tried to supply the STS-48 footage of the object changing direction, when seemingly fired upon from earth, to Seth Shostak?

I find it incredibly hard to believe in this day and age of media sharing for someone in the business of searching for life in the universe, to have not seen this footage as he claims.  It's a major red flag in my opinion. 

If by some chance this is the truth, I would love to hear what his response would be when he does finally see it.  My money would be on an "ice particle at a trick distance perception to the viewer" type of response - it does seem to be the pre-programed answer, coupled with that condescending laugh thrown in, just in case anyone was mistaken who the intellect is supposed to be in the conversation.

I totally respect Seth, despite my dig at him above, but it's very hard to continue to do so, when he puts in appearances such as this. 

He's either one of two things, a un-informed employee not read in to policy, who therefore believes in himself as genuine..... or he is the public face of dis-info to anyone questioning how S.E.T.I can justify their lack of success and continued budget allocation which if I'm not mistaken takes us to 2025....ish.

Has K.P.I performance ever snuck it's way into a government job contract in the U.S..... I'm just wondering out loud?

I don't think Seth is a Government Hack but He does what he has to do for that funding....but in my humble opinion the hope of Seti finding something has faded for me its time for a new approach

Quote from: albrecht on August 12, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
I think he used the comparison that one could "hear" the signal off a radio, tv, cell phone but not get the information contained in that signal without the equipment/algorithm to decode it. Right now, at least, he is spending the energy on trying to detect a signal, which so far hasn't happened. Then there would be work, with technology we might not have, to decipher the meaning (with I guess varying degrees of difficultly depending on the message etc?)

I understand that we may not be able to understand what we pickup from the signal

but he said beyond picking up the carrier signal we would have to wait 10 years to even  hear the what I would call "audio" so if i'm understanding this right we get a good carrier signal basicly just some high peaks on some paper charts...then have to go begging for more funding to build this super receiver to be able to hear it in audio?
It makes no sense to me even Art was shocked when he heard it.

We can pick up the sounds from the Big Bang on our radios and TV sets...we can hear the radio"sounds" of Pulsars light years away but ..according to Seth We don't have the ability to hear modulation from an ET  what am I missing here?

As someone who's been running Seti@home for over a decade I was disheartened when Seth Shostack told Art that even if they detect a interesting carrier signal...they wouldn't be able to listen to the modulation for at least 10 years because they don't have the machine built to do that.

If I'm mistaken please let me know guys...but my heart just sank makes me want to uninstall seti@home