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Quote from: Art Bell on August 15, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
At my age you see I have Medicare and I have part F as well so there are no out of pocket costs, of course as we all know the U.S. Gov't will indeed go broke sooner or later and it seems to be leaning
to sooner.

Art

Pneumonia is a disease of dehydration. That is why it is more common in winter, when the air is much dryer.  It's difficult to come down with pneumonia if you stay well hydrated, unless you've trashed your immune system with poor diet, alcohol, tobacco and other inflammatory lifestyle.

Quote from: Art Bell on August 15, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
At my age you see I have Medicare and I have part F as well so there are no out of pocket costs, of course as we all know the U.S. Gov't will indeed go broke sooner or later and it seems to be leaning
to sooner.

Art

Did you get to listen to Heather's recent show about the evils of healthcare, including the Medicare supplemental insurance scam?  The guest really nailed it, perfectly!  You should really have your doctor listen to the show, though you'd probably have to hold a gun to his head.

6/16/16
Medicare Supplemental Insurance
By David Belk, MD
http://truecostofhealthcare.net/medicare-supplemental-insurance

http://truecostofhealthcare.net

Quote from: Value Of Pi on June 28, 2016, 07:18:32 PM
I'm very familiar with both of those wars but I don't see a Brexit victory as being in the same category of importance as the Allied or American victories in those historic conflicts. Anyway, are you saying that Brexit is a sign or some kind of proof that a bloody revolution is coming to the U.S.? Because I can't see that through the fog.

You're thinking is inverted. Brexit is averting a revolution.  In the same way, a vote gainst the establishment and globalization would avert a revolution here in the US.

Quote from: Value Of Pi on June 28, 2016, 06:15:39 PM
Well, that sounds less dire than your first post. I'm having a lot of trouble imagining a bloody revolution, assuming Hillary wins and the status quo continues. I can see a bunch of stuff hitting the fan and lots of unrest for various reasons, but an outright revolution meant to overthrow the government is something else altogether.

The point being, nothing you've said makes me think that this would actually happen. If the idea is to get people to take the risk more seriously, you need to make a more convincing case.

The case is being made in the news. Like I said, follow the news.  If that's not convincing for you, then nothing else would be.  For example, if you cannot see just how profound the Brexit victoy is, what it means, then you're totally lost in some fog, taking for granted the freedoms we have that so many died and gave blood for, just so we can enjoy liberty today.  Ever heard of the Revolutionary War or World War II?

Quote from: Value Of Pi on June 28, 2016, 05:33:59 PM
I get all of that. What I want to know is if and why you think the U.S. is, in reality, close to a bloody revolution, which is way beyond angry and upset. Think about other revolutions in France, Russia, England (the English Civil War was basically a revolution), and of course, America, and explain why you think this country is at the same point.

Are you ready to grab your gun and start shooting at the government any time soon, do you think a significant number of people would do that, or are you really thinking about a much less bloody kind of revolution?

What I said or implied was that if we don't change course this November, away from establishment and globalization, the risk of a real revolution becomes more inevitable.  People are really fed up and are not going to take it much longer.  A majority in our country now work for the government or depend on it for survival. In other words, the enemy is next door, if you're not already one of them.  If we do change course this November, then things will settle down substantially.  There's no need to worry until November, and then only if the establishment and globalization win.

Quote from: Value Of Pi on June 28, 2016, 04:40:42 PM
Assuming you were being literal, tell us more about this bloody revolution. Who's revolting and how? How much blood are you talking about, relative to other bloody revolutions in the past? What's the cause the revolutionaries are fighting for and who are their leaders? Have these people written any revolutionary tracts yet so we can understand what the goals of the revolution are and how the new system would operate?

Then again, maybe you were just trying to dramatize how you feel.

For starters, 90% of us are fed up with both political parties.  Trump and Sanders are leading the revolt.  80 percent of us can't make ends meet with out some form of public assistance.  Illegal immigration is the primary cause, from an emotional standpoint, but from a financial standpoint, globalization is the culprit.  There's much much more, such as too much government, too much inflation, too much unemployment, too much under-employment, etc., etc.  You shouldn't need me to tell you. Just turn on the news!

Quote from: NAKASHI on June 28, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
Return of a prodigal vanguard.  Been a l-o-n-g time, sorefinger.  Cool to see you wandering the corridors again!

Indeed, it's been a long time, Nakashi.  I've been listening over at MiTD though, not to mention that it's very entertaining to see the world coming apart at its seams now.  I just can't figure out why it hasn't happened a long time ago already.

Quote from: Art Bell on June 12, 2016, 11:06:28 PM

I have hated some of the things Trump has said but I will still vote for him before the awful Clinton. Try and guess what Americs will look like after four or God help us, eight Years of Clinton. After that many Years of Supreme Court picks. What will be left of us? What will be left of the Bill of Rights?

We only have two choices in the real World, I am at heart Libertarian but I am also a realist, one of these two will be it. Trump has to straighten his ass up and become Presidential or we are doomed.

Art

I couldn't agree more, Art.  If Trump doesn't kick Hillary's ass off this planet, then a bloody revolution will.  Bernie Sanders is right, Dems better wake up.  I'm hoping they don't.

Quote from: Art Bell on January 26, 2016, 09:03:41 PM
I would be glad to answer any reasonable questions but if people just want to trash me and my Family I will not respond to that sort of thing. Perhaps you do not believe this place was that important to me but you would be wrong, I am not sure it is the same place I remember but my memories of it the way it was are warm.

Art

First, what I'm going to say is not meant to discorage you but to encourage you -- and shock, too.

Second, I don't think 70-years-old is old at all, but if you believe 70-years-old is old, then 70 years is old. 

Ronald Reagan became president at 70.

Donald Trump is 70, or at least will be in a few months, yet he has the vigor and energy of a 20-year-old, traipsing around the country from one end to the other, day and night, seemingly possessing an endless supply of motivation, mental fortitude, stick-to-it-ness, always appearing fresh and dapper, a remarkable specimen of human flesh, really. 

Of course, his good health and vigor has nothing to do with his genes but everything to do with the environment he chooses for himself, which environment is totally free of alcohol, tobacco, junk food, Monsanto poisoned GMO crap, fried food of any nature (no fricking French fries, no KFC, no pastery, no crackers, no oils), and never processed meats of any kind (no hot dogs, no deli slices, no pepperoni, no meat loaf), but instead his diet is replete with fresh, organic fruits and vegetables, only poached, steamed or boiled cooking, and free of candy and processed sweets. 

One could argue his deal-making has origin with his meal-making.

No one has to be a billionaire to afford the environment he chooses. And no billionaire leads a boring life because he prefers health food.

Art, you have these fleeting moments of wanting to be back on the air, one moment, but then the next moment, you're doubtful, discouraged, worn out, impetuous, moody, knee-jerk, irritable.  That's because your health is in the sewer.  You're never going to come back unless you get your health back, first. 

And you know, if you would just get religious about your diet and what you suck into your lungs, within a matter of just a few weeks, you'd be feeling so damn good, you'd rip that mic away from Heather in a heartbeat, go back on the air not just five nights a week but six or seven. That's how much energy you would have.  The human body is remarkable, designed to fully bounce back from any adversity, but it won't or can't happen without proper and total nutrition, first.

Every addiction, according to experts such as Dr. Dennis J. McKenna (a recent guest on MiTD), is a variation of malnutrition.  In other words, if you'd, for once, just get a handle on your diet, those nicotine cravings would vanish.

Think about what you're eating!  That bowl of morning cereal (or whatever else it is that you're spooning or forking down your neck) is not adding to your health but subtracting.  Every oil-based, fried meal that you're eating is putting you one step closer to the grave, whereas every poached or steamed meal puts you one step farther back from the grave.

It's not just your own health that's in the sewer; virtually every American's is, too.  That's because they've been marching to and worshipping at the altar of Madison Avenue, front men for the purveyors of the standard American diet, too stupid to pause and wonder why they're all sick, have heart attacks, get cancer, are diabetic, overweight, suffer from depression and if not dependent on Immodium AD, can no longer deficate without Miralax. 

But Madison Avenue is not going to be king of the hill much longer, thanks to the internet, which is gradually transforming the food choices people are now making, dramatically improving health that will, once a majority is onboard, eventually bankrupt the failing medical industry, which has been more interested in being on target to consume 25% of the GNP than it has been in patient health.

Meantime, if you don't reform your diet, your topsy-turvy disposition will dominate.  When you're down, your body shuts down, goes into depression, so that it can recover.  But then when you recover again, become active, which means more stress, you then quickly run youself down again because your endurance is zilch.  It's a vicious, never-ending cycle, which only continues perpetually.  But it doesn't have to.

If you're not interested in scrapping the standard American diet for yourself, then at least scrap it from your home for your daughter's sake.  Childen are far more vulnerable to diet-based disease than are adults, accounting for why child disease, like cancer and autism, have been occuring at rates unheard of in human history.

The 3rd ranked talk show host in the nation, Laura Ingraham, has bonobo balls, so Heather, with steel balls, has a good shot.

Quote from: Arch Stanton on December 14, 2015, 02:11:03 PM
Here is my take, FWIW.
I joined here last summer when word got out He was returning for real.
I got to hear the "test night" before he went full on live. I will admit I was very hopeful that this was going to become as special as it was back in the days when I found Art, 1992ish. It really did seem to be headed that direction. I signed up as a Time Traveler the first day, wanting to help reassure him the core audience was still here.
After this past week, and looking at the log from NCSO about the 3rd report of shots fired and didn't see where the responding officers found any evidence of same, I just don't know.
I spent 26 years in law enforcement.
Something like this happens to someone like Art who happens to live in our jurisdiction and the gloves go off, the overtime sheets are authorized and the problem is solved.
I can't imagine doing it any other way.
From what I've read there were 3 incidents. If they all involved shots fired after #2 we would have had a team out there working the situation, every night all night until the suspect was in custody. Period, end of story. I can hear the boss now.
"This man is no different than a guy running a small business in our town, gentleman. with the exception he is famous. There is no way in hell our failure to do our job is going to be the cause of this business closing down. Develop a plan, get the people together, and fix the problem. Do it now. We are not going to have some nutcase shooting him, his neighbors or anyone else."
Now, if this was the case I am sure the cops would have told Art to keep quiet about it on the air, and just go about his normal routine so that the SOB wouldn't be spooked or alerted that the cops were in the brush loaded for bear.
We may not even have told Art we were out there.
So, I dunno.
I'd like to believe the man. I'd also like to believe the Art I know would move his wife and child into town someplace safe for a couple of weeks, then put an giant inflatable FU finger in the yard, and let the cops do their thing.
His response seems out of character.
Then, I think again.
The man is 70 years that old. He points that out pretty frequently.
He may just not be ready to play hardball. He is 70, has a young wife and a young daughter that is rightly the light of his life.
But, he has left us in such a way that leaves us all wondering what the heck happened. Some of you folks here have put in a tremendous amount of effort supporting him. If he decided at some point decide M-F was too much for him, he should have simply stated so to us. If he was dealing with a criminal situation he should have worked with the cops.
If there was family pressure to quit or slow down, he should have told us.
I believe that if Art had wanted this to go on it would have. For whatever reason I don't think he does.
I hope some day he tells us. It would be nice to finish clean.

I was the victim of an extortionist one time, by a guy who claimed to be a member of the Mexican Mafia, even threatening to harm my 9-year-old daughter (somehow he even knew her name) if I didn't pay up, a frightening experience that scared the bejesus out of me, but I worked with the police, cooperated, and finally, after a couple of days of stalling, ostensibly so I had time to raise the money, and when the extortionist called for the last time, he was so ecstatic after I telling him that I had the money now right in front of me, all of it, I was able to draw out the phone call longer this time, until finally a police officer came on the line, requesting to speak with the detective who was at my home with me. The phone call had been traced to a phone booth about a mile from my home, where two suspects were arrested.  After testifying as the state's witness (a legal conflict had bumped the case from the county to the state), my testimony put the suspects in prison for several years.

I'm only bringing this up now because I have told this debacle to lots of people since, as I'm even doing now, many not believing that any of this happened to me, claiming that I had made it all up.   I could have played for the doubters the audio copies of the phone calls between the extortionist and me, but I never bothered, because I didn't give a shit wheather anyone believed me or not. I knew in my own heart and mind that it all had happened, so there was nothing to prove.

Art, on the other hand, seems to be greatly concerned that some of us can't buy his story, even going out of his way to quell our suspicions.  I'm having a tough time though because, from my own experience, his reactions are all departure from normal human response. 

Finally, now he claims that his wife is responsible for forcing him to quit, suggesting he doesn't even wear the pants in the family.  When she finds out that he's publically blaming her now, he'll end up in the dog house, from where, if he ever does another show, he will be broadcasting, cramped, using only his smartphone.

Quote from: Chronaut on December 14, 2015, 08:50:56 AM
That’s great news and a smart plan, and it’s a huge relief to hear that your heart is still with us, despite the tragic abundance of negativity around here lately.  The most exciting shows of your career are ahead of you, and a large portion of your fans will do whatever we can to see you through to the other end of this dark tunnel.

You must never have heard of the phrase: beating a dead horse. 

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 14, 2015, 08:28:30 AM

A few thousend listeners can be wrong then? Well managed!

+1

Quote from: rekcuf on December 14, 2015, 08:20:17 AM
The battle between truth and sexism... It's an annoying line to toe. I think you've started an interesting conversation here. Shall we continue exploring this topic?

Heather's steel balls lowered her voice.

Quote from: Art Bell on December 14, 2015, 07:59:10 AM
I did not say I was Retiring did I? I said I was going off the air because of this increasing problem with a Stalker. If some time can pass without incident I would be happy to do a random show. The big problem with this has been I had a fixed routine making it way to easy for this fool.

Art

You said you were quitting.

I'm on record supporting Midnight, promoting the show, as so many of us have, and now you appear here as though there is absolutely nothing wrong.  Well, all I have to say now is, once bit, twice shy. You may believe you haven't retired yet, but as far as I'm concerned, you're gone -- for good.

Quote from: Art Bell on December 14, 2015, 07:39:41 AM
I think she has what it takes to make it, she is smart, a great voice and a fast learner. I am giving her all the help I can. I think people will be surprised.

Art

Why didn't you just put in an interim host? Every top talk show in the nation does.  Michael Savage said that he wouldn't have lasted this long without all the guest hosts that have helped him along the way.  Many times he just wanted to throw up his hands and quit, too, but after a host had filled in for a couple of days, he felt better about it and continued.  You are not the only person in the world who can do Midnight, you know.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 13, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
Good god, what utter balls! The typical caller is a halfwit shut-in who'd struggle to put his trousers on without assistance. You sound like one of them. The caller portion of the show is just something they do to appease the audience, and it is almost always awful. It disrupts the flow of the show and reveals nothing of interest. I don't want to hear some witless hayseed tells us about what his gramma saw one night while taking a shit, thanks all the same!

If what you are saying were true, then the show could be done without callers, even podcasted. 

But Art's demand always was that the show be done live, so as to accommodate and involve the audience -- even without screening.  Without callers, it wouldn't be talk radio.  It'd be known only as guest radio. 

In Art's early days, the show was all about callers only, rarely a guest appearing (no producer needed).  One could make the argument that, once guests started to appear endlessly, the show only went downhill from there.  Look around the talk landscape.  The top shows are not dominated by guests, but by callers.  When guests do appear, they only do so briefly, maybe half an hour max.  That is all the time important guests have anyway. Any guest who has more time than that to contribute isn't very important, and especially so if he's willing to spend three or four hours in the middle of the night, in which case he's just another greedy hack, out to promote another book or whatever.

Coast to Coast's demise is directly related to guests who are nothing but commercialized hacks, who only view the audience as conquest.  Last year they elevated audience conquest to a new art form, after introducing multi-level marketing of supplements to their scheme.

I had always enjoyed listening to what callers had to say from around the country. Today it's from around the world -- even more interesting.

When Heather "steel balls" Wade premiered Friday night, she was at her best with the callers, not the guest.  In fact, I would lean towards saying that her success depends more on callers rather than on guests, at least until she gets comfortable with what she has to do.

Talk radio without callers would be like BellGab without commenters, in which case it would be a blog. Yet I find it ironic that you do not hang out in a blog but here at BellGab where you can contribute and comment as (the way you describe) a half-wit, struggling to put his trousers on.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 13, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
Good god, what utter balls! The typical caller is a halfwit shut-in who'd struggle to put his trousers on without assistance. You sound like one of them. The caller portion of the show is just something they do to appease the audience, and it is almost always awful. It disrupts the flow of the show and reveals nothing of interest. I don't want to hear some witless hayseed tells us about what his gramma saw one night while taking a shit, thanks all the same!

It takes a half-wit to know one.

Quote from: (Redacted) on December 13, 2015, 12:51:10 AM
I write to you with a heavy heart tonight.

I had never wished failure for Art, and I don't for you, as well.

But let's be realistic, considering no one is exempt from being human.  If Art ever wants his chair back, you'll turn on him the same as Noory did, no matter how heavy you believe your heart is today.

Any effort you spend in this forum only dilutes the quality of the next show.  Art would tell you to put on thicker skin and ignor the ego we are blind to but we so easily see in others.

When it comes to talk radio, the most interesting moments are rarely from guests but from callers.  Guests are not the audience.  Callers are.  Only they truly represent the hearts and minds of those who make talk radio possible.  And when it comes to questions for guests, there isn't a radio host alive who has nearly as much creativity as the collective creativity of callers.

Quote from: nooryisawesome on December 12, 2015, 03:28:24 PM
Wtf does this have to do with Art bell?

What does YOUR comment have to do with Art Bell, you wants-it-both-ways jack-off? 

Quote from: onan on December 12, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
I promote healthy choices in diet everyday. Unlike you, I have a license. Unlike you, I actually work with professionals.

Licensed people are sheep, forced to the group think that has ruined our nation.  If you are a homophobe, for example, you'd have to stay in the closet, fearing loss of your license if you speak out against homosexuals, trannies, or even the healthcare system, itself.  You're just a disgusting cog in the wheel that is broken, too greedy to resign and do something otherwise useful to humanity.

You could not know who I actually work with, so just shut up and quit speculating.  People like you feign respect for the -- unlicenced -- servant class, because you know they'll spit in your restaurant food if you disrespect them.

Quote from: albrecht on December 12, 2015, 02:57:49 PM
Yah, like most things there are shades of gray and cost/benefit analysis. The children thing you got spot-on and I'm not even going to cast judgement because I'm not in their shoes. I can't imagine what it is to be a teacher, state facility, etc for abused or abandoned children and teens. I do know there was a big controversy and the stats about how much meds they give children and diagnose, to me, seems crazy. But maybe they do need it? I've also heard in prisons they often over-proscribed- but, then again, we also use our prison system, essentially, to be our psychiatric asylums, so maybe they are needed. But I'm suspicious that, now, in basically one generation, every other child has ADHD or some other psychological problem necessitating medication so early in life.

Again, there are some things like one's diet can help out. Not everything, and I don't mean supplements and vitamins quack-cures- etc but eating decent food in moderation, not getting fat or obese, getting exercise, cutting out the Cokes, etc can help people at least not get certain diseases or at least less risk of doing so.

+1

Why would onan ever believe nutrition would solve health problems? He'd be unemployed.  He's part of the problem that makes the healthcare system broken.

Quote from: onan on December 12, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
I am kind of tired continuing to discuss medicine with you. You read a few stats and think you know something. Yes lots of people get hospital acquired infections. Mostly because as time goes by bacteria become more and more resistant to disinfectants and antibiotics. You think it's bad now give it another 3 generations.

When one considers that almost 200 million patients are in a hospital a year the percentage of deaths is less than .0025%. The chances of many of these patients surviving for an length of time without treatment would be a much worse outcome.

But hey spout a few statistics with big numbers and one thinks they know what the fuck they are talking about.

You're also the guy that makes statements that psychiatry isn't a science. You use the argument relating changes in the DSM even though I have explained to you that the DSM isn't meant for the laymen. But you always operate on the concept that because you are smart no one else is, unless they agree with you.

The amount of research in neurosciences is mind boggling and beyond your level of comprehension. That isn't a slight, as someone not working in that field daily you couldn't possibly keep up.

What, are you too stupid also to discriminate what you read?

Quote from: norland2424 on December 12, 2015, 02:01:21 PM
his mugshot and you do know he has been a life long chronic cigarette smoker right?

There is nothing wrong with smoking, provided your diet has the nutrients to repair the daily damage.

Quote from: norland2424 on December 12, 2015, 01:52:33 PM
LOL are you the shooter? since i can sure as hell say i havent been around Art to see if hes " Malnourished" or not.

Look at his mugshot, for chrissakes.  My neighbor's grandfather is 90 but he doesn't look as old as Art.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 12, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
Used to? What went wrong, pud?

Malnourished, his pud quit working.

I posted today because I believe that Art is malnourished.  Going by all the naysayers here, retards like onan, want to see to it that Art remains malnourished.

Quote from: albrecht on December 12, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
The C2C guests throw this claim around a lot but I can't find numbers approaching that. I see CDC says for 2010 40,393 deaths attributed to prescription drugs, roughly 99,000 die from HAIs (healthcare-associated infections- stuff you catch when you go into the hospital or doctor,) various sources claim 195,000 deaths due to malpractice for 2000-2003. Some claim even higher into the 400,000 but that was only one source (John T. James, PhD.)Clearly far higher number of deaths than caused by guns, terrorism, etc but nobody is raving about it or demanding law changes.

+1

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 12, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
Can you list the underlying circumstances and any/all topical ailments that could and did contribute to a patient dying? Such as heart failure, hemorrhage, aneurysm, various organ failure/dysfunction that resulted in the cause of death being nothing to do with the medical attention they received?


In your own time.

You just will never come out of denial, will you?

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 12, 2015, 01:25:51 PM
Yet you aren't a doctor yourself? What happened there?

What, actually work for a living?  Any work I do, I do by proxy. But you're too stupid to know what profession that may be.