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        While tooling around on YouTube the other day, I saw a listing for a recent C2C show featuring "Hat Man." I stopped in my tracks, with a stupefied laugh. Hat Man? I mused. Is that what the show is down to after all these years? A man in a hat? Too many years and shows about Bigfoot, Roswell and El Chupacabra, and now the only thing left is...Hat Man. Anyone listened to this discussion? Is Hat Man literally just a mysterious guy in a hat who, the callers say, they've seen skulking about on the edge of town, with a beard, a worn leather duster and an aura of the supernatural about him?

    I've been using ScriptSafe with Chrome for several days. Σ> recommended noscript, but I learned it doesn't work with Chrome. I've been learning just how many javascripts are always trying to gain access via one's browser, so thanks Σ>. The problem is, while some sites will load if I tell ScriptSafe to Trust them, too many still require me to tell ScriptSafe to temporarily trust all of the javascripts trying to load or the site won't load at all. This is the same as not running any javascript blocking software at all. So, what can be done about this?

   Who else here came from a politically liberal family and a part of the country in which guns were never seen or used, and thus has never fired a gun? The sheer explosive power of a gun scares me, in the same way that the first time you sat behind the wheel at sixteen you were suddenly overwhelmed by the power of a car, and panicked with the sense that you could easily kill someone and weren't sure you could control it. I am guessing that, as with the new driver analogy, there is a virgin factor here, and that once you get over that initial fear and start doing it, with instruction, you'll feel more in control. But while I would like to go to the local range and start learning because I am becoming increasingly concerned for my safety, I do have that newbie fear of the explosive power of a gun. Go ahead, accuse me of having vaginitis, but I'm hoping someone here has been through this and can offer some useful tips.

    So I just got a new Alienware 15 R3, see, and it rocks, but it came with this damned Tobii Eye Tracking software and I can't get rid of it. I have uninstalled it multiple times, but every time I reboot, there it is again and I have to turn it off manually. I don't want the NSA nor nobody else neither tracking my eyes. Anyone know how to nuke this software permanently?

      Pal, the first dog to play Lassie, has died. Not recently, I'm just saying.

480px-Pal_as_Lassie_1942 by Archibald Heatherington Nasty-Face, on Flickr

      You say 'hybrid human-pig embryos' like it's something strange.

      And now the guild navigator from Dune:

Edric by Archibald Heatherington Nasty-Face, on Flickr

      And now Rush Limbaugh as the guild navigator from Dune:

guildrush by Archibald Heatherington Nasty-Face, on Flickr

Quote from: Jack Stark on March 24, 2017, 04:56:26 AM

  Ha! Why hasn't someone made a zombie movie in which legions of Orthodox Jews come back as zombies, mad with hunger for foreskins. "Only the circumcised will survive..."

    Nikola Tesla is dead. I just thought I'd mention that.

Quote from: Σ> on March 08, 2017, 09:34:02 PM
but again, the end service you're accessing would still function as intended.  knowing this, you could think of the spying intel agency's audio snooping as the end service which would continue to work fine.  they wouldn't see your ip address, but if they've managed to turn on your mic and spy on you, they've probably also managed to make your phone report its true ip address and even its phone number.

on a pc, this logic is why it's a good idea to consider addons like "no script" which prevent javascript from running.  javascript is entirely capable of reporting your true ip address through the browser if allowed to run.  the TOR browser, which is based on firefox, comes out of the box with scripting disabled, and this is exactly why.  a website could manipulate javascript to obviate the entire purpose behind using TOR to begin with.

https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

   OK, so with regard to the first paragraph...Are you referring to an IMSI catcher forcing the SIM in your phone to report your IP address, phone number, etc., or is there some other technology they can use for when you're not in ranger of a IMSI catcher that accomplishes the same thing?
   With regard to the second paragraph...Would an app like Malwarebytes detect and prevent the running of said javacript? (I'm using Chrome, btw.) And if a javascript can send your true IP through a browser even if you're using a VPN, then what is the point of having the VPN?
   

   This is a thread in which I hope people with real technical understanding of IMSI catchers will be able to answer my questions so as to deepen my understanding of this technology. I have questions both about how it works and what can hopefully be done about it. Let me start with what I know, or think I do.

   I know that an IMSI catcher is a fake cellular tower, which uses a man in the middle strategy to insert itself between your mobile phone and the real cell tower. I know that the IMSI catcher exploits a hole in the GSM spec which requires the mobile device to authenticate to the network, but not vice versa, thus allowing the IMSI catcher to masquerade as the real mobile tower. I also know that mobile devices are required to optimize reception, or seek the strongest signal, thus allowing the IMSI catcher to become the preferred base station through greater signal strength., it forces mobile phones in its vicinity to log into it instead of the real cell tower. The IMSI catcher then sends a signal to your mobile devices SIM card that forces it to send the IMSI.

   Now, this is the point at which my questions begin, and because I have several, I'd like to take them one at a time to avoid confusion. The first question concerns what happens next in the above sequence of events, namely that the IMSI catcher, because the base station chooses the encryption mode, forces your mobile phone to send data unencrypted. I want to understand this process better, namely how, inside your phone, this is accomplished. Is it a hardware process entirely? Meaning does it bypass your mobile OS and any security or VPN software you have running? If you have NordVPN, let's say, running on your phone, which encrypts your data, how does the signal from the IMSI catcher defeat this and force your phone to send unencrypted data?

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on March 16, 2017, 06:06:18 PM
I haven't checked out her channel (or her ass) for quite a spell.    I liked her medical advice/knowledge but the whole SHTF/Bullets..Bean..Band aids stuff I can do without.  Is she still dating Reid H?  I'm glad to see he forged his own path and left that other fella he was working for.  Her ass?  I don't know..you gotta consider the whole package.  Smart, medically trained, maybe a bit on the crazy side..what's not to like even if her butt is a size or two larger than normal?  She's an attractive gal.

     Yes, she is, though she's got that explosive temper, apparently, which, combined with the arsenal she owns, kinda results in shrinkage, if you know what I mean.  Now who is Reid H? I saw that some guy named Reid is in some of her videos and considered that he may be the guy who knows first hand(s) the dimensions of her ass, but I've no idea who he is.

   You know the one I'm talking about. The ranting, raving crazy gun-totin' rootin', tootin' nurse who gives medical advice in front of a bureau with five guns on it, when she isn't screamin' about the coming apocalypse and the need to prep for full road warrior conditions. I kind of feel like she does have a big ass, but I can't be sure. Not that I'm saying that's necessarily a bad thing, or that I wouldn't turn her cross-eyed but slightly hot face down into the mattress and do her anyway. It's kind of a bone in, bone out situation, like a Christmas ham but with more ammo. Anyway, if anyone here's ever seen her ass let me know, or just posit theories, credible or otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMt9cyImVgk&t=0s

Quote from: Σ> on March 07, 2017, 10:47:22 PM
the only thing you could do to protect yourself from that is 1) physically disconnect the microphone from its interface or 2) entirely stop using the devices in question.  a vpn wouldn't protect you from this sort of intrusion.  you should google a wikipedia article on how vpn works.

  I did, read the whole thing. I think I pretty much get it but I thought perhaps the encryption aspect combined with the VPN giving you a masked IP address would make it hard for big brother to locate and identify your specific phone on the network so they could control the mic and camera. Likewise, the Vault 7 disclosure indicates the CIA uses your phone to geo locate you and I'm not clear if this means they are using features of Android/iOS to accomplish this or hacking your cellular provider's signal to trace the location of your particular phone.

        With regard to the new Vault 7 disclosure on Wikileaks about CIA hacking...We knew before that the microphones and cameras on our phones and laptops could be turned on remotely and used to spy on us, so, does VPN in any way protect you against this? Does there exist a way to prevent someone from remotely turning on the mic or camera?

     Alex Jones advertises bone soup on his show. Bone soup. Bone. 

640px-ZSU-23-4_Shilka_01 by Archibald Heatherington Nasty-Face, on Flickr

          Can I just say that if every American owned one of these, the rioting by social justice warrior and other vermin would go away in a right hurry? Yeah, babe. Gimme some o' that.

   I have been playing Astroneer non-stop for the last week, but have now, sadly, come to the end of what one can do in the game for the time being. It still has much development to come, so I must put it aside for now. In the meantime, this is the type of game I love, and am looking for good substitutes. Any suggestions? It has to be single player, mostly about exploration, crafting and building, like Astroneer, but without the ass-numbing pointlessness of No Man's Sky.

        Next question, since I have Nord installed on my phone. I get that it protects me when I'm using public WiFi, but what about LTE? When I'm connecting to the internet entirely by cellular, does Nord/VPN protect me?

      OK, since we failed with the first attempt, here's another effort...What I would like to start with is this: If one of you understands in detail how a third party, like the NSA, can activate and take control of the microphone in your cell phone, laptop or other device and listen to you with it, I'd be grateful for an explanation. A simple one please 'cause I'm a 'tard and all that.

Quote from: Ciardelo on January 31, 2017, 08:39:00 AM
BUT you did bring up an interesting point about the time when a message "drops down" from the internet provider...that point could be a problem...because you can't trust your provider to not be snooping on you.

So encryption protects against that. Even if "they" get the message, it will just be gobbly-gook. The VPN protects you from casual snooping because somebody looking at your traffic can't see what you are doing. But you are trusting your VPN provider as well because they can see where you are going and who you contact.

      To the first point, what would be helpful here is if someone with the relevant knowledge could draw us a diagram depicting Nord's own VPN network and how and where it intersects with the general internet. If the sender of an e-mail either doesn't use a VPN or uses one other than Nord, then in both cases, wouldn't that mean that at some moment the (for our purposes) unencrypted e-mail is traveling out on the open internet before reaching me? And what is the path of the e-mail as it approaches me--does it go from the larger internet to my ISP's gateway, and then to Nord, and from there to my PC?

       As to your second point, I hadn't considered that the VPN provider themselves might be snooping or even could. I thought my traffic was all encrypted so even Nord couldn't look at it, and that the lack of server logs somehow protected me from anyone, including Nord, tracing my movements around the net. If this is not true I would like to know.

       And notice that we've still not solved the issue of snooping using the cell phone or laptop mic. ;-) I think I'm going to start a seperate thread for that.

         Me use the Norton Security Suite and the complete Malwarebytes suite, what has just been updated to include anti-exploit so's I ain't gotta run that seperately.

Quote from: Jackstar® on January 31, 2017, 05:41:04 AM
You can't stop the signal, but you can jam it. Just play this at all times and all surveillance will be neutralized.


The Man can not cope.

     Ironically, this is along the lines of what I was thinking about, an app which, when some remote third party turns on your mic and starts listening to you, starts pumping in either white noise or really bad music (Justin, Miley, I'm looking at you.) While a fun thought, I am of course being serious. Is there no way to prevent someone from listening to you through your mic? Does Nord help you at all in this instance?

Quote from: Ciardelo on January 30, 2017, 04:47:14 PM
Not a joke. If you want personal communications to remain private, even if it's just recipes or something...if you really want no prying eyes your friends and neighbors need to become trained in security as you are. So your sister Sally wants to share her recipe for peach cobbler, but you don't want prying eyes, she is going to have to effectively encrypt and tunnel that recipe to you. ALL your communications need encryption, right?

4th of July pictures? Same deal. Pictures of your niece Sharon's wedding? Same deal.

I guess I'm saying YOU need to decide how "compartmentalized" your world needs to be. If people you need to talk to privately don't know how to do it, it's up to you to train them.

        OK, so continuing my quest for clarity here... Using Nord, my own communications/data is encrypted, but if someone else sends me an e-mail, that and any attachments are not encrypted unless they encrypt them. This leads to the following question: If that other person also uses Nord, let's say, then their outgoing data--the e-mail and its attachment in this case--is encrypted, but at some point there must be a handshake of sorts where the encryption provided to the e-mail by their own subscription to Nord ends, and the e-mail is handed off to...my ISP? My computer? What is the actual point at which I receive this e-mail and is it unencrypted at that moment? Does my own subscription mean the Nord software grabs the e-mail as it comes in and and encrypts it during this handshake? Is there a moment where it is unencrypted and thus susceptible to spying?

          This leads to my next question. I am using the Nord app on my Android phone, which is a Galaxy S7. That phone uses both LTE and WiFi to connect to the internet, using smart switching to switch between them or combine them based on signal availability, as I understand it. Either way, I understand how the Nord VPN works its magic when I am connecting via WiFi, but what about LTE? Does Nord help me at all when connecting to the net via LTE?

Quote from: Ciardelo on January 30, 2017, 04:10:32 PM


Tune in, turn off, drop out man.

There might be some sort of "app" for that but unless you devote your time to really study security, you're probably screwed. I took a Cisco networking class "way back when" which included a tour of one of the phone company switching offices.  Even then, "way back then" there were cables going into a locked, secure area for government use. So you have to commit, use VPN and encryption point-to-point.

Are you ready to train all your friends and neighbors so they can "talk" to you? Have you looked at MV's VPN options up there? ^^^^

At the very least, put tape on your cameras.

       Yeah, I deliberately don't have a webcam connected to my desktop for that reason. As far as my laptop, I went into settings and denied the webcam access to all the different apps it is allowed to use by default; whether that will prevent a third party from hijacking the webcam (and mic) and spying on me is another question. I do use Nord VPN, though, and have the Nord app on my Android phone, though I hadn't considered that using Nord would prevent the NSA or whoever from grabbing control of the mic or camera. Do you mean that because Nord encrypts my traffic, this makes it effectively impossible to do so? And tape over the laptop webcam is something I did think of, actually. What did you mean about training my friends and neighbors in how to "talk" to me, or was that a joke?

         I'm not attracted to fat ugly feminists--even the old ones.

Quote from: Σ> on December 09, 2016, 11:51:46 AM
indeed they do, and that's an often forgotten component of VPN anonymity.  by the way... nord also has amazing iphone/android apps so you can direct all of your mobile traffic through their VPN.

     This last part I didn't know. I have been using Nord for a couple of months now, as it happens. When you say they have their own DNS, do you mean that with the Nord app on my PC, I am bypassing my ISP's own DNS altogether, and connecting to the internet entirely through Nord's DNS?

    So I know "they" can remotely turn on or hijack the mic in my Android phone, or my laptop (I think), and listen to me, and recently it's occurred to me there might be an app to prevent this. Or at least to make them eat static when they do so. Anyone know of any such technology? I don't want the NSA to hear me commenting on the nice thighs of Japanese girls, that's strictly my business.

Quote from: Jackstar® on January 10, 2017, 07:56:37 PM
http://arstechnica.com/business/2017/01/yahoo-board-drops-to-five-mayer-is-out-name-changed-to-altaba/


Frankly I find it hard to believe anyone ever used this piece of shit. It never did anything useful even in its prime. Good riddance.

source: yes, I'm that old

          Verizon is willing to pay $4.8B for a useless relic. I'd have sold myself for half the price.

      Begin with the Real Doll, then add the following modifications:

       1) For God's sake, replace those dead, lifeless eyes that stare into space and make you feel like you're raping your sister's corpse. Wait, did I say that out loud? I only meant they need eyes that have the spark of life in them.

       2) Warmth. The doll/robot should have body temperature, thus making you and your pecker feel, uh, warm.

       3) How about some moving parts? Inside the orifices of the doll/robot, under the skin, should be gizmos that create the sensation of pulling, gyrating, pressure, etc. I mean after all.

       4) Just like a self-cleaning oven.

       5) Welcomes all requests for backdoor access, rather than demanding an expensive spa day in exchange for it.

       6) Absolutely LOVES inviting its hot doll/robot friends to join you.

         In principle, therefore, yes, I'm down with robot lovers, but if I catch mine reading anything by Gloria Steinem it goes straight to the landfill.

Quote from: JesusJuice on January 26, 2017, 11:17:03 PM
Do you know asking that people eat and be healthy is a form a white supremacy?

https://twitter.com/EvrydayFeminism/status/824651989338492931

     I read the first four paragraphs on the site and, feeling my frontal lobes edging nearer to suicide, bailed out. Holy Jeez. There is perhaps a use that people who make such declarations serve, and that is to self-identify as 'tards, thus saving us the trouble of sifting through the population one by one, trying to separate the valuable from the 'tard through interviews and brain scans. Then, having collected all the 'tards onto a fleet of fishing scows, we can conveniently haul them out to waters favored by the mako shark, and unload them.