Quote from: The General on February 02, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
Considering Ahmadinejad's nuclear aspirations, sposorship of terrorism, hatred of Israel, admiration of Hitler, and denial of the Holocaust, I think it's pretty clear what he's saying. Do you two share Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust?
And although nuking Japan was a terrible thing to do, it saved more lives than continuing the war would have. It was a terrible choice to have been faced with, but most people agree it was justified.
And finally, yes, let's stick to the point which is not Israel vs. Iran, it is a thread about Egypt. Which, by the way, I am suspicious that Iran may somehow be behind this revolution in Egypt. This did not happen over night, someone is behind it.
from a neutral stand point and without being biased, Iran's nuclear aspirations are justified even if they are military focused, an IDF officer lately declared that "if Iranians are not seeking nuclear weapons, then they are crazy.", we just invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Israel invaded Libanon 5 times in the latest decades, we have a major base in SA to whom we sell high tech military gadgets almost daily, note that SA and Iran are sworn enemies, Israel just deployed German made nuclear submarines under the whole area, Israel never agreed to any Nuclear weapon non proliferation agreement, and never showed any interest in a nuke free Middle east, not to mention the harsh language with which we talk to Iran and which sounds more like if we actually want them to keep doing what they are doing.
so why would Iranian's or Najad not seek nuclear power? in their shoes, even Alice in wonderland would have looked for Nukes.
in the middle east region, again, only one country has Nukes and its not Iran, if we are sincere in asking Iran not to seek Nukes (no matter how arrogant this sounds considering we do have Nukes), we should start with that country first, otherwise we wouldn't make sense.
Nejad's world were mysteriously twisted on our news to become "death to Israel!", the guy also never declared that he "Admired" Hitler nor that he was Holocaust denier, he plainly declared to CNN that claims about the Holocaust could be inflated and that he was calling for an international investigation to make things clear once and for all, that does not make him Bin laden nor Hitler nor does it make him public enemy number one.
Egyptian protests didn't come overnight, people protested against Mubarak's tyranny for two decades, (we were just tuned away) but Mubarak, with our blessing and our shielding from international scrutiny and our cash, killed any opposition and silenced any resistance either by cash or by force, the MB members that you are suggesting is a terrorist organisation, were wrongly charged, imprisoned massively and tortured just for asking for social reform and justice, in the same prisons where Omar Suleiman, the guy who was just promoted from secret service director to VP, used to torture detainees that we couldn't torture on our land in the rendition program that occurred in the last several years.
Arabs know that, they also know because of all the above and more that we only care about Israel and that we dont give a rats arse about them, their nations or their democracy, their media happened to be more liberal and less biased than ours, it seems that they took our words and slogans that we don't follow seriously and become objective and independent, so if they don't trust us very much we should spare the world preposterous comments like: "oh its because they hate our freedom".