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Started by bateman, June 12, 2015, 06:46:40 PM

aldousburbank

I'm not sure if this has been previously posted but assholes like this are why this acid dropping, freedom loving hippie is now a registered Republican.

http://youtu.be/USORHBUmN4k

albrecht

Quote from: aldousburbank on May 07, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
I'm not sure if this has been previously posted but assholes like this are why this acid dropping, freedom loving hippie is now a registered Republican.

http://youtu.be/USORHBUmN4k
They are nuts, but young and have been indoctrinated so, maybe, not to blame. I blame, more, the professors, teachers, Hollywood, and the media for promoting such junk as history or truth.

One thing I never understood is, forget 1st Amendment etc, but isn't burning anything, even a flag, against most cities' laws? Sure, if you are on private property, and there is no burn ban or law against burning, SJWs, KKK, anti-war activists, feminists, or whatever nutsos can burn whatever they want. On their property, if legal. But when they do it in the street, park, campus, etc? Why aren't they arrested, or at least cited, for arson or some similar crime or offense? I can't, in most places, just go into the street or campus and start burning stuff- why should a flag, or cross, store, bra, dumpster, draft-card, or whatever, be different? Why aren't the BLMs and SJWs at least ticketed when they do so? Heck, here it is even illegal to burn leaves in your own yard. I'm sure if I took the bags of leaves I raked today to the campus or park and started burning them I would get an even worse ticket. It is weird.

pyewacket

It's fun to watch the leftists when they realize what happens when their demands are met. They demanded a minimum wage hike and are now outraged by the inevitable result- layoffs.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/05/06/first-layoff-at-berkeley-after-minimum-wage-hike-sparks-protest/

NowhereInTime

Quote from: pyewacket on May 08, 2016, 08:41:29 AM
It's fun to watch the leftists when they realize what happens when their demands are met. They demanded a minimum wage hike and are now outraged by the inevitable result- layoffs.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/05/06/first-layoff-at-berkeley-after-minimum-wage-hike-sparks-protest/

It's even more fun to watch rightists gloat over job losses.  Yes, you are a moral people you conservatives.

albrecht

Obama and his henchmen have been talking about this for some years and implementing some policies but it looks like they are going to finalize it. So in addition to shipping unvetted Muslim "refugees" to towns across the land, "catch and releasing" illegals, even if they have criminal records, and ensuring the open-border remains now they are going to force tax-payers to pay for the housing (and even utilities) of poor "urban" people but, not just pay, per the current policy, but demand that they live in our decent neighborhoods. His invasion scheme is called “Small-Area Fair Market Rents” (SAFMR) and encourages "diversity" in neighborhoods. So the people that work so that their family can live in safe, nice areas must pay via Section 8 so those who won't, or can't, work, or at least not finding success at it, can live in their neighborhoods, and, ideally in Obama's mind, bring more crime to those areas and get some more revenge via the drop in property values and increased crime levels on what he called, as he did his own grandmother, "typical white people." (In his warped mind, single-minded as in is with his resentment towards the country and Western Civilization. In reality there people of many races, ethnicity, and religions in the good neighborhoods. The common feature is that they work and/or are wealthy and educated and less inclined to crime- at least violent street crime; Wall Street and white collar crime is another thread.  ;))

http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/

Quote from: pyewacket on May 08, 2016, 08:41:29 AM
It's fun to watch the leftists when they realize what happens when their demands are met. They demanded a minimum wage hike and are now outraged by the inevitable result- layoffs.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/05/06/first-layoff-at-berkeley-after-minimum-wage-hike-sparks-protest/

Exact same thing happened in Seattle. Retarded socialist got on the city council. Forced a $15 minimum wage. Then Seattle's local economy went into a tail spin as a couple thousand jobs went bye bye and local prices raised to meet the inflation. A fucking five year old can figure out the basics economics of what happens when the cost of business goes up. Yet a socialist economics professor from the University of Washington can't.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 08, 2016, 10:05:31 AM
It's even more fun to watch rightists gloat over job losses.  Yes, you are a moral people you conservatives.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels":  I deserve $15!  Living wage!  Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.:  Hold on, you are an unskilled worker who is working in historically transitional job.  Asking for $15 which doubles your current wage will force the company to cut hours and drastically reduce staff.  You most likely will be out of a job

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Naw, I deserve $15 an hour. Living wage! Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  No seriously, you are campaigning to be out of a job.  The biggest cost of any business is labor, and you are wanting to double that cost without understanding the repercussions.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  All they need to do is raise prices by $.30 cents on the big mac bruh.  Don't feed me that economics bullshit.

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  Businesses are already looking to automate most of their operations already.  Also, in order to remain profitable, businesses will only be open at the most profitable hours which will greatly reduce staff and the availability of hours.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Living wage!  I deserve $15 an hour.

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  You do have a living wage.  You aren't starving, you have a home and you are employed.  You want more money than find a better job.  Don't rely on working an unskilled job that requires no education or experience.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Man, fuck you.  Living wage! Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves. Well I tried.  I honestly tried.



**Months later after the minimum wage is passed and the typical liberal is out of job and can't find a job because they are all laying employees off.


Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Fucking conservatives.



Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 08, 2016, 10:05:31 AM
It's even more fun to watch rightists gloat over job losses.  Yes, you are a moral people you conservatives.





albrecht

All of our institutions, even the very storied and prestigious, need to be infected. These women should've been punished, maybe up even get their degree taken away from them for violation of DoDD 1344.10, maybe not that far but certainly some punishment. Maybe take away their commission and bump them down a grade.

Black cadets cause West Point stir with raised fists
AFP
May 7, 2016
https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-cadets-cause-west-point-stir-raised-fists-202536931.html

ItsOver

Quote from: Teh PeNgu1n oF dOOm on May 08, 2016, 10:30:55 AM
Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels":  I deserve $15!  Living wage!  Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.:  Hold on, you are an unskilled worker who is working in historically transitional job.  Asking for $15 which doubles your current wage will force the company to cut hours and drastically reduce staff.  You most likely will be out of a job

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Naw, I deserve $15 an hour. Living wage! Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  No seriously, you are campaigning to be out of a job.  The biggest cost of any business is labor, and you are wanting to double that cost without understanding the repercussions.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  All they need to do is raise prices by $.30 cents on the big mac bruh.  Don't feed me that economics bullshit.

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  Businesses are already looking to automate most of their operations already.  Also, in order to remain profitable, businesses will only be open at the most profitable hours which will greatly reduce staff and the availability of hours.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Living wage!  I deserve $15 an hour.

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  You do have a living wage.  You aren't starving, you have a home and you are employed.  You want more money than find a better job.  Don't rely on working an unskilled job that requires no education or experience.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Man, fuck you.  Living wage! Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves. Well I tried.  I honestly tried.



**Months later after the minimum wage is passed and the typical liberal is out of job and can't find a job because they are all laying employees off.


Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Fucking conservatives.
Chuckle. :))

albrecht

Even Mother's Day needs to be politicized and Obama's fetish, or at least fascination with the whole gender-bending stuff, needs to be mentioned on Mother's Day.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/05/06/presidential-proclamation-mothers-day-2016

albrecht

Pretty funny, if a prank or just a mistake. I imagine she's already got an attorney and this will turn out, actually, to be the best thing to happen to her in her life (like the radical "clock-boy" who got all kinds of accolades, free travel, media time, and- though I'm not sure it has been settled yet- a large settlement for his pain and suffering.) And there was ISIS before the Muslims adopted the moniker but in keeping with the times I expect "Isis" to make some good coin out of the incident.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-high-school-yearbook-misidentifies-muslim-student-as-isis-phillips-20160508-story.html

albrecht

Some SJWs got kicked out of school or suspended for doing the usual fake "hate crime" antics that are so popular over the recent years. Hopefully some criminal charges will also be forthcoming and that they, if they were on any, any public funds or scholarship funds willl have to be paid back by them.
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/UAlbany-women-punished-by-college-for-bus-attack-7396568.php#photo-9934313
http://www.albany.edu/news/69517.php

pyewacket

Here's the presentation that sent poor 'trigglypuff' and her SJW friends into a raging panic. See if these people seem threatening to you.   :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcp36n2cDg

Why White People Don’t Use White Emoji

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/white-people-dont-use-white-emoji/481695/

Apparently this is what the editors at the Atlantic are thinking about now.  Not the numerous world problems but whether it is pc and racist to use white emoji's. Sad, sad, sad.

::)


MV, you are on notice.  Yellow emoji's are racist as well.  You better put up some black ones.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 12, 2016, 03:27:22 PM
Why White People Don’t Use White Emoji

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/white-people-dont-use-white-emoji/481695/

Apparently this is what the editors at the Atlantic are thinking about now.  Not the numerous world problems but whether it is pc and racist to use white emoji's. Sad, sad, sad.

::)

MV, you are on notice.  Yellow emoji's are racist as well.  You better put up some black ones.
We are doomed. 

popple

Quote from: pyewacket on May 08, 2016, 08:41:29 AM
It's fun to watch the leftists when they realize what happens when their demands are met. They demanded a minimum wage hike and are now outraged by the inevitable result- layoffs.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/05/06/first-layoff-at-berkeley-after-minimum-wage-hike-sparks-protest/

Raise the minimum wage & you're gonna know hard times! YOU'RE GONNA GET A KICK IN THE BUTT AND GET TOLD "HEY A COMPUTER TOOK YOUR PLACE, DADDY!"



NowhereInTime

Quote from: Teh PeNgu1n oF dOOm on May 08, 2016, 10:30:55 AM
Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels":  I deserve $15!  Living wage!  Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.:  Hold on, you are an unskilled worker who is working in historically transitional job.  Asking for $15 which doubles your current wage will force the company to cut hours and drastically reduce staff.  You most likely will be out of a job

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Naw, I deserve $15 an hour. Living wage! Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  No seriously, you are campaigning to be out of a job.  The biggest cost of any business is labor, and you are wanting to double that cost without understanding the repercussions.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  All they need to do is raise prices by $.30 cents on the big mac bruh.  Don't feed me that economics bullshit.

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  Businesses are already looking to automate most of their operations already.  Also, in order to remain profitable, businesses will only be open at the most profitable hours which will greatly reduce staff and the availability of hours.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Living wage!  I deserve $15 an hour.

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves.  You do have a living wage.  You aren't starving, you have a home and you are employed.  You want more money than find a better job.  Don't rely on working an unskilled job that requires no education or experience.

Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Man, fuck you.  Living wage! Living wage!

Glorious Conservative who takes time out in an attempt to save a liberal from themselves. Well I tried.  I honestly tried.



**Months later after the minimum wage is passed and the typical liberal is out of job and can't find a job because they are all laying employees off.


Typical Liberal who operates on "muh feels"  Fucking conservatives.

First off, "muh feels"?  Clown shoes.

"Historically transitional"?  I'm sorry, is that in the Constitution, too?

"You aren't starving. You have a home a home and you are employed"?  Well, thankee, massuh!  You sho' is right!
Condescending bullshit.

You cons really think you have people figured out to the point where you turn everyone into caricatures that are always in some inferior position to yourselves.  And yet you wonder why more and more people are saying, precisely,  "Fucking conservatives"?

Secondly, got news for you "muh feels" but the automation of working service jobs long predated this recent spate on minimum wage increases:

http://www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-group/

So, Wendy's conveniently has tech designed, scoped, field tested, ordered, and manufactured to go?  Really?  As a response to the minimum wage bills just signed into law?

You've never been to Home Depot or any chain grocery store that have deployed self serve checkout?  Like for the past ten years?  You really think the argument for the living wage caused all of this?  "The biggest cost is labor"?  Where?!? In what fucking industry, especially minimum wage service businesses, is the biggest cost labor?? Another conservative who has no idea how businesses work!  Aside from product/labor entities, like professional athletics, labor is NEVER the highest cost!  Product, marketing, and executive compensation outweigh "labor" in so many of these businesses as a percent of the budget!

It's amazing how pathetic cons are that they are latching on to this as their triumphant validation.  You and your seven figured salary ilk have been furiously trying to excise minimum wage working people out of your budgets for the last 40 years; you really think this is proof of "proles gone wild"?

Even conservatives can't be that dense, "muh feels".

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 13, 2016, 01:29:48 PM

http://www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-group/

So, Wendy's conveniently has tech designed, scoped, field tested, ordered, and manufactured to go?  Really?  As a response to the minimum wage bills just signed into law?

Automats have been around for many decades, still somewhat popular in Holland in some places. Oddly enough the cheap "fast food" worker displaced them in most cities. So it is about time that the idea comes back. No what will really be interesting is when the automation can make good stuff and replace real restaurant staff (cooks, sommeliers, waiters/esses, even busboys and dishwashers.) Except for suggestions, upselling, or personal touch I'm not sure why more jobs haven't been automated. There is no reason mundane stores, like gas stations, convenience stores, liquor stores, etc need much staff, if at all. Even seal off the store and have the transaction done via a kiosk at the street (less robberies or shop-lifting also.) Places where the purchase is usually one or two items so the picking, selling, could be done quickly by automation. (A grocery store or a store with many items a person (at least the customer) would still, for now, be needed to pick out the items because too much variety of goods.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on May 13, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Automats have been around for many decades, still somewhat popular in Holland in some places. Oddly enough the cheap "fast food" worker displaced them in most cities. So it is about time that the idea comes back.

Yeah!  People Unfair to Machines! Boy, you conservatives sure are smart!

QuoteNo what will really be interesting is when the automation can make good stuff and replace real restaurant staff (cooks, sommeliers, waiters/esses, even busboys and dishwashers.)

Skynet will kill us long before this could ever happen.  They still can't even get self driving cars working!

http://www.geek.com/news/google-will-pay-people-80000-to-not-drive-their-self-driving-cars-1655060/

As an aside, though, it is hilarious that Google will pay people $40,000 to figure out ways to not have to tip a cabbie.  That's American Exceptionalism!

QuoteExcept for suggestions, upselling, or personal touch I'm not sure why more jobs haven't been automated.

Because it is really expensive.  Sure, you install cold, impersonal machines but who ensures they function properly?  A really expensive team of specialists.  And repair and replacement costs?  Good luck getting timely service; parts are rarely kept in inventory because of cost so they have to be sourced, then you have to have a specialist (or ten) show up to reinstate your system.  Good luck having techs show any sense of urgency; they're getting paid whether your customers are satisfied or not.  As to those customers?  How many times do you think people will interact with your impersonal interface before they say "fuck this" and move one.  Yeah, automation will wait.

QuoteThere is no reason mundane stores, like gas stations, convenience stores, liquor stores, etc need much staff, if at all.

As if any of the businesses ever had "much staff"?!?  And please don't tell me about how five guys would jump out to service your car at a gas station!  This isn't 1955! I don't know how you arrive at your wildly askew perception, but having been in the liquor business I've never had as much staff for coverage as I would have liked!

QuoteEven seal off the store and have the transaction done via a kiosk at the street (less robberies or shop-lifting also.)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 

Yeah, because that's how it works.  Any idea why Barnes & Noble was up last quarter?  People are starting to realize that book buying through Amazon isn't worth the discount due to shipping cost, time, delivery hassle, and the never ending "Amazon Prime" hustles.  People still enjoy browsing and in the right format, (ie: personal touch interaction) will buy on the spot rather than poking into their phones and waiting two weeks for "free shipping".

QuotePlaces where the purchase is usually one or two items so the picking, selling, could be done quickly by automation. (A grocery store or a store with many items a person (at least the customer) would still, for now, be needed to pick out the items because too much variety of goods.

Um, aren't those called "vending machines"?  I know! Taking over the economy, aren't they!

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 13, 2016, 01:58:21 PM
Yeah!  People Unfair to Machines! Boy, you conservatives sure are smart!

Skynet will kill us long before this could ever happen.  They still can't even get self driving cars working!

http://www.geek.com/news/google-will-pay-people-80000-to-not-drive-their-self-driving-cars-1655060/

As an aside, though, it is hilarious that Google will pay people $40,000 to figure out ways to not have to tip a cabbie.  That's American Exceptionalism!

Because it is really expensive.  Sure, you install cold, impersonal machines but who ensures they function properly?  A really expensive team of specialists.  And repair and replacement costs?  Good luck getting timely service; parts are rarely kept in inventory because of cost so they have to be sourced, then you have to have a specialist (or ten) show up to reinstate your system.  Good luck having techs show any sense of urgency; they're getting paid whether your customers are satisfied or not.  As to those customers?  How many times do you think people will interact with your impersonal interface before they say "fuck this" and move one.  Yeah, automation will wait.
   

As if any of the businesses ever had "much staff"?!?  And please don't tell me about how five guys would jump out to service your car at a gas station!  This isn't 1955! I don't know how you arrive at your wildly askew perception, but having been in the liquor business I've never had as much staff for coverage as I would have liked!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 

Yeah, because that's how it works.  Any idea why Barnes & Noble was up last quarter?  People are starting to realize that book buying through Amazon isn't worth the discount due to shipping cost, time, delivery hassle, and the never ending "Amazon Prime" hustles.  People still enjoy browsing and in the right format, (ie: personal touch interaction) will buy on the spot rather than poking into their phones and waiting two weeks for "free shipping".

Um, aren't those called "vending machines"?  I know! Taking over the economy, aren't they!
I agree that the human touch is a good thing (and can increase sales) though I'm not sure B&N is a good example. Large footprint and too many outlets (at least was, they closed most of them here.) I like smaller book stores or used book stores or those with a unique bent. My favorite ever is this one:
http://www.dauntbooks.co.uk/ The main thing I like is that they have a section by country so, say you are going somewhere, besides the travel guide (though I guess most people now use the internet) or maps you can buy books by authors from the country. They also have author lectures etc.

But besides wine selection or expertise (and maybe increased sales there) something mundane like a liquor store might not need to have any employees (at least full time.) Some guy wants a quart of Jim Beam he puts in his card, or cash, and the picker grabs it and delivers it to the slot. Just as many warehouses are automated in the electronics industry. No human interaction, no threat of robbery, less breakage, no (or less) employees, likely less insurance (for same reasons,) etc. I don't know. The liquor chain stores here are so big and vast I'm amazed they make money. And so much "wasted" space (housed in former big box stores but shelf space still ends around 5 foot.)

Same with "fast food" like FEBO in Amsterdam or the old automats in the US of the past. Simple food, even hot, can be done automatically. Now a real meal? Not sure we are there yet.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on May 13, 2016, 02:09:22 PM
I agree that the human touch is a good thing (and can increase sales) though I'm not sure B&N is a good example. Large footprint and too many outlets (at least was, they closed most of them here.) I like smaller book stores or used book stores or those with a unique bent. My favorite ever is this one:
http://www.dauntbooks.co.uk/ The main thing I like is that they have a section by country so, say you are going somewhere, besides the travel guide (though I guess most people now use the internet) or maps you can buy books by authors from the country. They also have author lectures etc.

Right, because this is happening, too:

http://registerguard.com/rg/business/34353819-63/independent-bookstores-continue-upward-trend.html.csp

Automation?  Not so much.

QuoteBut besides wine selection or expertise (and maybe increased sales there) something mundane like a liquor store might not need to have any employees (at least full time.) Some guy wants a quart of Jim Beam he puts in his card, or cash, and the picker grabs it and delivers it to the slot.

Right, because no one needs to select the wines for the store.  No one needs to buy the wines for the store.  No one has to decide new product for the store.  No one has to stock the store. Fill the beer coolers.  Clean the store.  Pack away monthly, quarterly, or semi-annual buys.  Check ID's.  Carry out to the car.  Answer the never ending damn phone. (Actually I'd like to automate that last part...)

QuoteJust as many warehouses are automated in the electronics industry. No human interaction, no threat of robbery, less breakage, no (or less) employees, likely less insurance (for same reasons,) etc. I don't know. The liquor chain stores here are so big and vast I'm amazed they make money. And so much "wasted" space (housed in former big box stores but shelf space still ends around 5 foot.)

In my store we have about 7000 square feet and we are cramped.  We get mobbed by the kids from the local university.  They are actually great kids but some try to sneak in underage.  We do about $5 million a year and growing, so there are constant shipments in and deliveries out.  We have a strong wine consumer from affluent towns who REQUIRE personal shopping assistance (this is why Wine.com and others, including Amazon Wine sputter).  I don't get the perception.

In truth, there are too many people running service companies like retailers who have never touched a sales floor and think like you do.  They send out "programs" and "best practices" (contrived, at best, under laboratory conditions and, usually, in a drunken stupor) to what they call "the field" (you know where we, the service employee meet and assist you, the customer) and assume they've got it all covered as they head home 4:00 Friday afternoon.

QuoteSame with "fast food" like FEBO in Amsterdam or the old automats in the US of the past. Simple food, even hot, can be done automatically. Now a real meal? Not sure we are there yet.

Fast food has been "streamlining" since Ray Kroc stole the Golden Arches.  Nothing to do with minimum wage laws and everything to do with not paying the "unskilled".

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 13, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Right, because this is happening, too:

http://registerguard.com/rg/business/34353819-63/independent-bookstores-continue-upward-trend.html.csp

Automation?  Not so much.

Right, because no one needs to select the wines for the store.  No one needs to buy the wines for the store.  No one has to decide new product for the store.  No one has to stock the store. Fill the beer coolers.  Clean the store.  Pack away monthly, quarterly, or semi-annual buys.  Check ID's.  Carry out to the car.  Answer the never ending damn phone. (Actually I'd like to automate that last part...)


In my store we have about 7000 square feet and we are cramped.  We get mobbed by the kids from the local university.  They are actually great kids but some try to sneak in underage.  We do about $5 million a year and growing, so there are constant shipments in and deliveries out.  We have a strong wine consumer from affluent towns who REQUIRE personal shopping assistance (this is why Wine.com and others, including Amazon Wine sputter).  I don't get the perception.

In truth, there are too many people running service companies like retailers who have never touched a sales floor and think like you do.  They send out "programs" and "best practices" (contrived, at best, under laboratory conditions and, usually, in a drunken stupor) to what they call "the field" (you know where we, the service employee meet and assist you, the customer) and assume they've got it all covered as they head home 4:00 Friday afternoon.

Fast food has been "streamlining" since Ray Kroc stole the Golden Arches.  Nothing to do with minimum wage laws and everything to do with not paying the "unskilled".
I think the alcohol industry is one of the most corrupt, legally corrupt, businesses there is. So many archaic rules that benefit the existing institutions (and folks like McCain etc.) The separation between retailers, wholesalers, distributor, brewer/distiller, protected markets, the huge corporate distilling/brewing facilities (a lot of brands are all distilled at same place but branded different. This doesn't mean it is bad (they distill based on your recipe and instructions but the marketing like there is some good old boy in Kentucky brewing your bourbon- not so much,) the taxation, and the state agencies that regulate and all of the local and state laws about where/when/if one can buy etc. I know this is mainly due to the 21st Amendment etc and I'm for local control but it is still interesting. Some big players (Costco, Walmart) here are threatening/suing and could shake up the system.

But, as you mention, my small (even smaller than yours) liquor store still exists despite two big players that built the booze and wine "box store" in the old Best Buy and in another purposely built building moved in nearby. I asked the owner and he said, like you, the convenience (in the neighborhood versus driving a mile) and personal attention (knows the customers, gets smaller less volume wines, recommends wines, etc.) He evens says on some items he can compete on price but admits for "generic" stuff (like I mentioned a quart of Jim Beam or something) that the "box store" beats him.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on May 13, 2016, 04:09:09 PM
I think the alcohol industry is one of the most corrupt, legally corrupt, businesses there is.

Yep.  Was corrupt before prohibition, got even more so during, and now is as lascivious as Big Tobacco.  Having said that, people have a right to this garbage if they want and I make a living selling it so be it.  (Oh, it's not all bad.  Truth be told a Carneros Pinot Noir with filet mignon can be divine, as can an Alto Adige pinot grigio with shrimp scampi.)

QuoteSo many archaic rules that benefit the existing institutions (and folks like McCain etc.) The separation between retailers, wholesalers, distributor, brewer/distiller, protected markets, the huge corporate distilling/brewing facilities (a lot of brands are all distilled at same place but branded different. This doesn't mean it is bad (they distill based on your recipe and instructions but the marketing like there is some good old boy in Kentucky brewing your bourbon- not so much,) the taxation, and the state agencies that regulate and all of the local and state laws about where/when/if one can buy etc. I know this is mainly due to the 21st Amendment etc and I'm for local control but it is still interesting. Some big players (Costco, Walmart) here are threatening/suing and could shake up the system.

They already have been. Costco's famous challenge of the infamous "three tier system" adopted by most states has rattled the business for about the last decade...

http://www.seattlepi.com/business/article/A-legal-win-for-Costco-It-can-challenge-rules-on-1161000.php

...and Total Wine & More has been going after states (they are owned by two very smart, well educated brothers David and Robert Trone; David recently lost the Democratic primary for Maryland's 8th Congressional district)...

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/print-edition/2014/12/05/the-brothers-behind-washingtons-booze.html

...has really reshaped this business.  Too much consolidation too fast by major brands has done in what was, only a few years ago, and exciting, competitive business.

QuoteBut, as you mention, my small (even smaller than yours) liquor store still exists despite two big players that built the booze and wine "box store" in the old Best Buy and in another purposely built building moved in nearby. I asked the owner and he said, like you, the convenience (in the neighborhood versus driving a mile) and personal attention (knows the customers, gets smaller less volume wines, recommends wines, etc.) He evens says on some items he can compete on price but admits for "generic" stuff (like I mentioned a quart of Jim Beam or something) that the "box store" beats him.

When it comes to spirits, smaller retailers are going to have to earn margin on "newness" or selection.  Aside from Total,  nationwide retailers are limiting SKU's so they can concentrate buying power on wineries, distilleries, and breweries directly for best pricing.  Otherwise they will have to really develop clientele with a good wine portfolio.

Roswells, Art

Quote from: aldousburbank on May 07, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
I'm not sure if this has been previously posted but assholes like this are why this acid dropping, freedom loving hippie is now a registered Republican.

http://youtu.be/USORHBUmN4k

I didn't watch the video because it looks depressing but I have a theory where there is a limit to the amount of acid you can do before you start to lose some faculties. I base this on some dude I used to work with whom told me he did acid every day for about three years. He claimed to be an ultra-conservative. Later I found out he was also a coke dealer. He got fired for calling one of our lovely co-workers some racist slur.

Quote from: Roswells, Art on May 14, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
I didn't watch the video because it looks depressing but I have a theory where there is a limit to the amount of acid you can do before you start to lose some faculties. I base this on some dude I used to work with whom told me he did acid every day for about three years. He claimed to be an ultra-conservative. Later I found out he was also a coke dealer and racist.

I wonder about that. I wonder why this generation is so weak. You think of the typical social justice male. A small white balding pussy of a thing who's offended by everything and can't critically think. Where did these things come from? It's difficult to find a comparison to them in American society through the 20th century. Are these things the result of the offspring of drug people? Or since there's no immediate threat of world war anymore certain demographics of men became pussies over night?

GravitySucks

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 14, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
I wonder about that. I wonder why this generation is so weak. You think of the typical social justice male. A small white balding pussy of a thing who's offended by everything and can't critically think. Where did these things come from? It's difficult to find a comparison to them in American society through the 20th century. Are these things the result of the offspring of drug people or since there's no immediate threat of world war anymore, certain demographics of men became pussies over night?

Teletubbies.

cweb

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 14, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
I wonder about that. I wonder why this generation is so weak. You think of the typical social justice male. A small white balding pussy of a thing who's offended by everything and can't critically think. Where did these things come from? It's difficult to find a comparison to them in American society through the 20th century. Are these things the result of the offspring of drug people or since there's no immediate threat of world war anymore, certain demographics of men became pussies over night?
Kids aren't forced to face adversity any more. Some of it is parents remembering the tough times they faced and not wanting their kids to go through the same. Which is a nice thought, but these folks are forgetting that difficult situations can build character and work ethic. The other part of it is that the establishment (school, authority figures) are catering to the whining of kids instead of taking an even hand between order and anarchy. Kids have always whined. But they're more coddled than ever.

They're not failing, they're not thinking for themselves, and instead of getting a high from accomplishing something they are trying to get it from browbeating others over the minutiae of conduct.

It's absolutely ridiculous.

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