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Started by FightTheFuture, August 11, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on August 07, 2015, 04:15:29 PM

Only if you replace those groups with "lawyers, dentists, and politicians judges."
Unfortunately most of the immigrants, especially the illegals, are used to kowtowing to corrupt police, politicians, and judges and likely have never seen a dentist. So they will accept corruption and abuse by our leadership very willingly (as, so far, it is less corrupt or violent when compared to their home countries.)

More good news for Obama (I hope he stays appraised of his mission to "fundamentally transform" the country while on another tax-payer vacation.) The Obama Doctrine's "war on women" is succeeding beyond measure!
"An illegal immigrant from Mexico has admitted to strangling a 30-year-old New Jersey woman he worked with, and setting her body and house on fire to cover up the crime." As Obama might say, she was only a "typical white person" so who cares?

http://www.nj.com/somerset/index.ssf/2015/08/hillsborough_man_pleads_guilty_in_murder_of_co-wor.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jobs-shock-100-of-female-employment-gains-taken-by-foreigners-since-2007/article/2569824

paladin1991

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 07, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Policy level huh?  What committee are you on?  Who's office do you work out of?  What is your phone number there?  I would like to request available copies of your work.
You can PM me the number.


albrecht

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 07, 2015, 09:04:35 PM
You can PM me the number.
He might be on vacation with Obama. Maybe of his new "body-men" even? Who knows. Look to Europe. Heck look to Muslim countries, how they treat dissent, diversity, homosexuals, women, blacks (their "lives matter" not in Muslim areas often.) And ask, is this what we want the USA to become? It is bizarre that in places, very "tolerant" and, yes, even "socialist" and "progressive", like The Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, France, Norway, etc let the immigrants and refugees in, and continue to do so, with dastardly results. Even "meaner" countries like the UK see people beheaded in public and, yet, say "let the immigrants in, lest we offend them." And we ALSO need to deal with our own N.American beheaders, and worse, in Mexico and Central America just across our open-border!
But "it can't happen here" (see previous posts.....)

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on August 07, 2015, 11:37:51 PM
look to Muslim countries, how they treat


How shall I do that--by boat, or by television? And are we talking about large clusters of Muslims, or are we talking about the Islamofascist puppetmasters who are pretty evidently, thoroughly psychotic? You know, exactly like many Western leaders.

When I was a much younger kid, I always wondered why the grownups on television were all in a bother about tensions in the Middle East. Now that I've read a book or two, it's pretty clear now.

paladin1991

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 07, 2015, 09:04:35 PM
You can PM me the number.

Anytime, Claudius.  Anytime at all. 


paladin1991

Quote from: Jackstar on August 08, 2015, 12:41:15 AM

How shall I do that--by boat, or by television? And are we talking about large clusters of Muslims, or are we talking about the Islamofascist puppetmasters who are pretty evidently, thoroughly psychotic? You know, exactly like many Western leaders.

When I was a much younger kid, I always wondered why the grownups on television were all in a bother about tensions in the Middle East. Now that I've read a book or two, it's pretty clear now.

Do you find yourself bothered, brother? 

albrecht

A great article on the situation with illegal and other immigrant criminals. Yes, it is Breitbart so will dismissed by some but the actual data ("it is all in the data") comes from the State and Federal government, even Obama's government and STILL look bad. (Not these figures are mainly having to do with the amazing propensity for illegals to commit murder and doesn't address the more usual crimes they so often commit adequately: DUI accidents, rapes, theft, assaults, drug dealing, etc.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/08/illegal-alien-crime-accounts-for-over-30-of-murders-in-some-states/
Illegal Alien Crime Accounts for over 30% of Murders in Many States


-"Between 2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In New York it was 34% and Arizona 17.8%. During those years, criminal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6% of the total population in those states. That 38% represents 7,085 murders out of the total of 18,643."



Jackstar

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 08, 2015, 10:28:40 AM
Do you find yourself bothered, brother?


Every morning I get up, read the news, and realize that I've been right for twenty-seven years. It hasn't gotten old yet.

albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on August 08, 2015, 04:47:45 PM

Every morning I get up, read the news, and realize that I've been right for twenty-seven years. It hasn't gotten old yet.
Hint: been reading news for a longer time and you won't find much truth there, except by accident or at a local level (or by a foreign press talking about a situation/story in another country, and even there beware.)
http://www.krgv.com/news/local-news/Increase-of-Illegal-Crossers-in-RGV/34608058
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/08/case_of_illegal_immigrant_faci.html
Obama likely loves this one because it is one less he needs the VA to "take care of." I hope he is still monitoring the "fundamental transformation" while he is away on, yet another, tax-payer funded vacation.
http://natmonitor.com/2015/08/08/illegal-immigrants-rape-and-murder-elderly-air-force-veteran-with-hammer-police/

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on August 08, 2015, 05:15:30 PM
Hint: been reading news for a longer time and you won't find much truth there,


Hint: truth is found within.

albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on August 08, 2015, 05:53:47 PM

Hint: truth is found within.
Sure, I guess. But while you, using a royal generic you, are gazing at your navel or contemplating math or whatever, the Muslims and the illegals will be cutting off your head. But, maybe as philosophers speculate, it is an interesting "brain in a vat question." Or Pozole as the cartels like to do.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/world/americas/25mexico.html?_r=0 

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on August 09, 2015, 12:27:28 AM
the Muslims and the illegals will be cutting off your head.


Just give them the gas, and they'll spare your lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw3QjHt9WUA

paladin1991

Quote from: Jackstar on August 08, 2015, 05:53:47 PM

Hint: truth is found within.
Oooooooooom.   Oooooooooom.  Oooooooom.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 08, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
Anytime, Claudius.  Anytime at all.

  I don't think Clod-Deus, aka "Fraudius" will be forthcoming with any proof of his importance. That motherfucker takes the cake in delusions of grandeur and overblown pomposity. He's in charge of the CFR...when he's not posting on a message board about a radio show.

   Jeeeeeeezzzzzzzussssss.  ::)

albrecht

Obama's "war on women" continues. More good news for Obama:
http://www.wyff4.com/national/chief-blames-immigration-policy-in-vets-murder/34622218
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2015/08/09/feds-failed-to-detain-illegal-immigrant-charged-with-rape-and-murder-n2036685

Frontline had a good episode on El Chapo and the corruption and drug industry in Mexico recently. After watching will anyone still support the Obama Doctrine of the open-border and encourage those types of people to come here?

paladin1991

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 08, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
Anytime, Claudius.  Anytime at all.


A number Claudius.  A phone number so that I can call you and get some of this info that you are balls deep into.  I'll pay for the postage. 
I keep reaching out to you Claudius. 

Or is it Clownius? 


albrecht

"black lives matter," apparently the Obama Doctrine is not just a "war on women" but also hurting/killing blacks, whose "lives matter."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6tL5AW5kU&feature=youtu.be


http://cis.org/Immigrant-Population-Hits-Record-Second-Quarter-2015

Give them Obamacare (or at least let them sign up to make numbers look, somewhat, ok after all the problems...)
http://freebeacon.com/issues/audit-healthcare-gov-did-not-verify-social-security-numbers-citizenship-status/



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/13/illegal-immigrant-pleads-not-guilty-in-rape-fatal-hammer-attack-on-air-force/

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/salvadoran-immigrants-united-states

Now we have an interesting story. This guy might face 20 years for complying with, and participating in, the Obama Doctrine. The illegals who come here don't face that penalty- and often are released per some Court decisions and the Obama Doctrine even if they have previously be convicted of other crimes, even violent, in their own country or here? Oh, wait, he is a "typical white person," as Obama would likely say or was an entrepreneur (evils of capitalism)- so throw the book at him!
http://www.katv.com/story/29778715/trucker-could-get-20-years-for-immigrant-smuggling-in-texas
ps: I hope they do punish him, despite his support of Obama's policies, we should prosecute Americans who assist, hire, give aide or shelter, or smuggle the illegals.


albrecht

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29782028/arrest-made-in-lehigh-triple-homicide#.Vc3FRBNViko
Obama's precious illegal already had been arrested here in the US and for robbing a cell phone store in his Belize. Yet, per the Obama Doctrine, he was released so that he could kill They are Dorla Pitts, 37, her daughter Starlette Pitts, 17, and Michael Kelly, Jr., 19, and the unborn child of Starlette Pitts (Obama might likely just call this an abortion.)

The defendants are Juan Manuel Araujo-Gutierrez, 30, who was arrested in Douglas; Luis Alfredo Ortega-Santiesteban, 28, who was arrested in Rock Springs’ and Hector Flores-Garcia, 41, who was arrested in Edgerton.
http://k2radio.com/federal-judges-sentence-defendants-for-illegal-re-entry-child-porn-drugs-2/
Who are we to judge the illegal's culture? Why shouldn't Obama's precious illegal be allowed to view whatever type of porn they wish? Maybe the porn would satisify his perfectly valid urges (since we shouldn't be judgmental and sexuality is a spectrum) and stop him from raping- like so many other illegals do even?

More good news for Obama! Now when they hit you in one of their DUIs they will have a license, probably not insurance though so still get that uninsured motorist rider on your policy.
http://www.allgov.com/usa/ca/news/unusual-news/most-new-drivers-licenses-in-california-go-to-undocumented-immigrants-150814?news=857197

albrecht

Judge is surprised that an illegal, with an "extensive criminal record," charged with nearly beating a 2 year old child to death wouldn't show up back to court?  :o Why the hell was he released to the public considering his crime, past crimes, and illegal status?
http://calcoastnews.com/2015/08/illegal-immigrant-a-no-show-in-court/
The article does not mention if Obama has granted him Dreamer status yet but clearly he is a good candidate: "Chavez is a Mexican national with an extensive criminal history that includes convictions for drug trafficking and assault with a deadly weapon. He was deported from the United States last year following a drunk driving conviction in San Luis Obispo County."

In an interesting turn-around a non-European, or as Obama might call it a "non-Whitey" country, is being criticized by the administration for not wanting illegal immigration into their country. This is a first.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-department-dominican-deportations_55d2225ae4b0ab468d9deef6

Bad news for Obama:
http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=1243651
Luckily for Obama he will likely be released back into our society (or quickly cross the open-border if actually deported.) No word in the article if Obama has granted him Dreamer status.

albrecht

Those evil police in my areas that just want to shoot blacks and Latinos, or so the media, the agitators, the pressure groups, and the Obama administration would have you believe, rescued a passel of illegals from a train (disrupting train schedules and business) and the tax-payers paid for their medical care. They were heading towards Austin, a sanctuary city, and no doubt will be released into the community once they take advantage of our free healthcare system.
http://kxan.com/2015/08/18/police-undocumented-immigrants-rescued-from-train-in-new-braunfels/
I don't even know why they bother? Obama is not only not going to listen to the pleas of victims or local LEO but will likely release MORE criminals to your communities in retribution for being against his Obama Doctrine of open-borders, Dreamers, and catch-and-release.
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/arizona-news/9343481-story

Innovative idea though I think there would be cheaper and potentially more humane ways to stop the similar invasion here especially considering our border is much larger and often remote.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hungary-unleashes-border-hunters-to-keep-illegal-immigrants-out-1439916449

albrecht

What is weird is that the people who support illegal immigrants and praise them don't seem to understand that many illegals are also hurt, or killed, by other illegals. I can understand someone like Obama, for example, championing illegals if they only hurt white people or US citizens but they frequently hurt each other: human trafficking, rape, drug addiction, torture, forced prostitution, etc.
Here is just one example where they happened to get busted:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/08/21/criminal-aliens-kidnapped-and-tortured-illegal-immigrants-for-ransom/

The famous illegal who is agitating on their behalf and made a MTV show to criticize white people doesn't pay his taxes according to this report. He frequently claims that illegals pay taxes.
http://redalertpolitics.com/2015/08/19/federal-tax-lien-illegal-alien-jose-antonio-vargas-challenges-argument-immigration-reform/

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/dhs-kept-secret-the-release-of-violent-criminal-illegal-immigrants/

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/21444-most-minor-illegal-aliens-are-resettled-in-the-u-s-and-not-deported


Meanwhile over the ocean:
http://www.commdiginews.com/featured/illegal-immigration-and-european-disintegration-47017/

paladin1991

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2015, 02:24:57 PM




Meanwhile over the ocean:
http://www.commdiginews.com/featured/illegal-immigration-and-european-disintegration-47017/

The wife and I were talking about this last night.  She had Skyped her parents in Germany.  This seems to be a hotter discussion there than we have here.  The German populace seems to be having this discussion everywhere.  Coffee shops, churches, markets, dr's office.....   
We,  the wife and I, are thinking things will *pop* over there first.  As you know, there are areas in her hometown and many other cities where German is not spoken and Germans are at risk, even in daylight. Her brother is a cop in her hometown.  Yep, there are no patrol zones. 
The enemy has landed and seems to have the situation well in hand. 

albrecht

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 21, 2015, 05:02:18 PM
The wife and I were talking about this last night.  She had Skyped her parents in Germany.  This seems to be a hotter discussion there than we have here.  The German populace seems to be having this discussion everywhere.  Coffee shops, churches, markets, dr's office.....   
We,  the wife and I, are thinking things will *pop* over there first.  As you know, there are areas in her hometown and many other cities where German is not spoken and Germans are at risk, even in daylight. Her brother is a cop in her hometown.  Yep, there are no patrol zones. 
The enemy has landed and seems to have the situation well in hand.
It really is like a war and invasion in many places, especially right now in Southern Europe. But countries like The Netherlands, France, Sweden, have "no go" areas that are controlled and inhabited by foreign immigrants, especially Muslim. They deal with riots, crime, etc in formerly peaceful societies. Sweden now has the highest rate of rape in Europe and higher than much of the world. Granted they report rapes very liberally but the increase can be directly tied to immigration and refugees and a huge amount of the rape convictions were committed (like +70%) by the immigrants! The crazy thing is that groups that "leftists" claim to support (women, homosexuals, Jews, etc) are frequent targets of the invaders they allow in! :o But people are waking up. Which is good but I fear could turn violent as when the politicians abandon the people, the people need to defend themselves. I think it could be only football hooligan-type and direct action can save some of the countries there. Just today a Moroccan shot people on the train in France (luckily he was stopped by some US Marines who happened to be on the train.) And tomorrow there will likely be vigil or some speech and hand-wringing by a politician pleading for acceptance and understanding of Islam and the need for "more inclusiveness" for immigrants. People aren't buying it anymore.

paladin1991

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2015, 05:15:50 PM
It really is like a war and invasion in many places, especially right now in Southern Europe. But countries like The Netherlands, France, Sweden, have "no go" areas that are controlled and inhabited by foreign immigrants, especially Muslim. They deal with riots, crime, etc in formerly peaceful societies. Sweden now has the highest rate of rape in Europe and higher than much of the world. Granted they report rapes very liberally but the increase can be directly tied to immigration and refugees and a huge amount of the rape convictions were committed (like +70%) by the immigrants! The crazy thing is that groups that "leftists" claim to support (women, homosexuals, Jews, etc) are frequent targets of the invaders they allow in! :o But people are waking up. Which is good but I fear could turn violent as when the politicians abandon the people, the people need to defend themselves. I think it could be only football hooligan-type and direct action can save some of the countries there. Just today a Moroccan shot people on the train in France (luckily he was stopped by some US Marines who happened to be on the train.) And tomorrow there will likely be vigil or some speech and hand-wringing by a politician pleading for acceptance and understanding of Islam and the need for "more inclusiveness" for immigrants. People aren't buying it anymore.

a french train  Presumably with french 'men' aboard.  And it took 2 American Marines, or as is being reported by the Pentagon, service members, to put down terrorists.  The only thing I know I can count on fm the french is bad hygiene, bad service and mayo on my fucking Freedom Fries.

albrecht

Quote from: paladin1991 on August 21, 2015, 05:42:47 PM
a french train  Presumably with french 'men' aboard.  And it took 2 American Marines, or as is being reported by the Pentagon, service members, to put down terrorists.  The only thing I know I can count on fm the french is bad hygiene, bad service and mayo on my fucking Freedom Fries.
Although we focus more on Obama's Doctrine the problem of illegals is worldwide.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2015/8/20/56157/Dominican-authorities-shiel-Haitians-after-death-reported-rape
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/599837/German-riots-migrants-rip-Koran-torn-pages-asylum-seekers
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32407-las-patronas-make-mexico-s-train-of-death-a-more-humane-place (if Mexico secured their borders this wouldn't be an issue, instead of giving the illegal beans and rice and allowing them to ride your trains to come here simply keep them out.)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11814241/How-migrants-are-being-raped-left-for-dead-and-buried-like-dogs-by-people-smugglers.html (the captains and staff of these vessels should be criminally charged and their vessels should be seized or sunk and the migrants returned to the port in which they left or country of origin, which ever is easier/cheaper. Sanctions and no more foreign aide to the countries sending them.)




onan

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 22, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
With all due respect to the Holy Father, he's way, way out of line on this one.

http://cdn.rollcall.com/news/immigration_could_get_push_from_pope_francis-243331-1.html?popular=true&pos=hatxt&cdn_load=true&zkPrintable=1&nopagination=1

I wonder how the pope feels about 100,000 "permanent" visitors setting up camp in Vatican City?

paladin1991

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 22, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
With all due respect to the Holy Father, he's way, way out of line on this one.

http://cdn.rollcall.com/news/immigration_could_get_push_from_pope_francis-243331-1.html?popular=true&pos=hatxt&cdn_load=true&zkPrintable=1&nopagination=1

Oh yes.  Way off.  The Catholic church owns, controls, reportedly or has heavy interests in, 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds wealth.  They start selling off property and holdings, building soup kitchens and homes for the poor....then I'll take them seriously as players in this 'emergency'.   

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