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Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 21, 2018, 08:01:39 PM
Huh?! We both just responded to you. They must’ve recently increaded your meds or something Either that or you’re having a stroke.  ;D

We’ll leave you two to talk.


Donald Noory

It's beginning to look a lot like...tRump won't get the 5 billion for his border wall.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 08:10:58 PM
We’ll leave you two to talk.

We?! Oh, you’re a schizophrenic. ::)

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 07:15:58 PM
Good line there...and not at all untrue. Sadly the endgame of Bernie would make Eddie Lampert weep. ::)

I almost weeped when our local Sears closed. I'm steeling myself for the demise of our local JC Penney's.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 07:18:51 PM
That faith healer in Brazil allegedly zapped some police computers too... ???

Yeah, I saw a headline about "paranormal events" at the police station. I don't know if John is more holy Padre Pio or horny Uri Geller.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: albrecht on December 21, 2018, 07:20:26 PM
Wasn't there such a fellow? RIP. Name escapes me right now, dammit. HVAC repairman and exorcist/demon-hunter who had a show.

There are more annoying ghost shows than annoying pharmaceutical commercials, so you can be forgiven for forgetting. My generation just had "In Search Of" and "Sightings", and we were happy.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: albrecht on December 21, 2018, 07:22:12 PM
Greaseman is up there with Art, Hendrie, and Bruce Williams in my personal radio hall of fame.  A genius with his bits, soundboard, euphemisms for sex acts to avoid sanction, and characters.

You were lucky that you heard them in their prime. Radio shows may soon go the way of radio shows.

albrecht

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 22, 2018, 12:05:57 AM
You were lucky that you heard them in their prime. Radio shows may soon go the way of radio shows.
Good radio never dies though. OTR and those I've mentioned can still be listened too, although admittedly a niche deal. But sometimes, oddly, you realize that nothing has changed when you hear the "old" news and political stuff when the old news breaks or subjects are mentioned in recordings.  Illegals, terrorism, wars, economic woes, political travesties, etc. Some could be replayed today and I doubt listeners would know "old" even, maybe.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: albrecht on December 22, 2018, 12:21:02 AM
Good radio never dies though. OTR and those I've mentioned can still be listened too, although admittedly a niche deal. But sometimes, oddly, you realize that nothing has changed when you hear the "old" news and political stuff when the old news breaks or subjects are mentioned in recordings.  Illegals, terrorism, wars, economic woes, political travesties, etc. Some could be replayed today and I doubt listeners would know "old" even, maybe.

That's very true in that there's nothing new under the sun. Hal Lindsey wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth" before I was born. I'm no kid, either. Still, the End Times and/or the Rapture are here just like they were before Jesus was old enough to shave.

albrecht

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 22, 2018, 12:32:51 AM
That's very true in that there's nothing new under the sun. Hal Lindsey wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth" before I was born. I'm no kid, either. Still, the End Times and/or the Rapture are here just like they were before Jesus was old enough to shave.
Indeed. The "good" or "bad" though, I'm decidedly mixed on the issue, is that in the past only the best, or at least the most powerful, would be preserved. But now there is too much data, shows, information; real, false, good, bad, or otherwise and, because of this there is also, again this could be good or bad, no, real, common or popular, in a good way, standard. It used to be some key works, music, books, religion, channels, or whatever but now? A brave, new world where the past stuff is bad, or not taught, and everyone just "does their own thing." I'm not sure that is good for a society, or the world.

AZZERAE

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:36:43 PM
Stopping idiotic memes is a bipartisan issue. Some conservatives also post idiotic memes so, like adult onset diabetes, political party and political philosophy are irrelevant in the campaign to stop this scourge.

I'm glad Nucky can see that some of us can remain bipartisan in an otherwise volatile thread. My antennae did tingle when I was being urged to play "personal assistant" to one of BellGab's most prominent never Trumpers (some things are just too much to bare).

ItsOver

Welcome to a partial Fed government shutdown and we're still alive.  I thought the world was suppose to end.


WeinerInHand

Quote from: ItsOver on December 22, 2018, 07:10:53 AM
Welcome to a partial Fed government shutdown and we're still alive.  I thought the world was suppose to end.

It. Has. Begun.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 22, 2018, 07:50:14 AM
It. Has. Begun.



The Government shutdown took effect at midnight and the sun came up as usual this morning.  That fucking Shcumer just lies and lies!  It remains to be seen whether the predicted zombie appocolypse will occurr. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 22, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
The Government shutdown took effect at midnight and the sun came up as usual this morning.  That fucking Shcumer just lies and lies!  It remains to be seen whether the predicted zombie appocolypse will occurr.

Really?! He’s working for the same people your hero, George Bush did. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t be down with Chuck. Hey, remember “Read my lips. No new taxes?” That was a good one! :D

No one’s buying it, pops.

Metron2267

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 11:56:54 PM
I almost weeped when our local Sears closed. I'm steeling myself for the demise of our local JC Penney's.
And before all of this retail wreckage we lost the scout knife of big retail - Monkey Wards. Now that stung bad. :(

Metron2267

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 22, 2018, 12:32:51 AM
That's very true in that there's nothing new under the sun. Hal Lindsey wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth" before I was born. I'm no kid, either. Still, the End Times and/or the Rapture are here just like they were before Jesus was old enough to shave.
Ever hear of this one?



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/626085.The_Last_Days_of_the_Late_Great_State_of_California
What would happen to California, and to the rest of the world, if "the Big One" hit? Told from the point of view of a historian writing two years after an earthquake has totally destroyed California. Most of the book is an insider's-eye view of California politics in the 1950s and 1960s.

Katrina
Mar 07, 2010 Katrina rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2010
This book is interesting in an odd way. Written in 1968, it purports to have been written in 1972, approximately three years after the Great Quake that Wrecked California. The first three chapters in the book, California North, Central Valley, and California South, actually cover the history of the 1966 gubernatorial election between Pat Brown and Ronald Reagan as well as other tidbits of the "California Experience". I found some things I didn't know about the history of that election as well as the history of my state.

The fourth chapter, entitled Paradise Lost, covers the day of the Great Quake that tore California asunder and forced the part of the state west of the San Andreas Fault to fall into the Pacific (a nice touch, I thought, acknowledging that most of California is actually firmly attached to the North American Plate), and the last bit, Epilogue, covers the impact of the loss of a large chunk of the state on the United States as a whole.

In places, this book is obviously dated, in other places, oddly accurate, and it lends well to its premise that California is a strange place. I liked the book a lot, but it will not be everybody's cup of tea. The device of using fiction to show us just how odd the Golden State is fascinated me, but it means that the actual history of this book might be left just as sadly in the fantastic.

There are probably other, more current books, that talk about the craziness of the Golden State, but this one was interesting for its place in a particular time period.

Metron2267

Quote from: albrecht on December 22, 2018, 12:49:00 AM
Indeed. The "good" or "bad" though, I'm decidedly mixed on the issue, is that in the past only the best, or at least the most powerful, would be preserved. But now there is too much data, shows, information; real, false, good, bad, or otherwise and, because of this there is also, again this could be good or bad, no, real, common or popular, in a good way, standard. It used to be some key works, music, books, religion, channels, or whatever but now? A brave, new world where the past stuff is bad, or not taught, and everyone just "does their own thing." I'm not sure that is good for a society, or the world.

The pseudo-egalitarianism of information belies the very real and now far more toxic bias load it carries. There was once upon a 'time' a time when "Time Magazine" was  a more centric journalistic mainstay and those who sorted left preferred "Newsweek" and the right went to "US News & World Report" or even "Kiplingers". But the polarization of everything was not as evident, not actually celebrated by overtly "fake news" as it is now. Yes it's true that Cronkite and a young reporter named Rather confounded LBJ and made the "Tet Offensive" out to be a disaster and not the win we'd later forensically dissect long after the fact.

But we at least had the slower pace and leisure to examine and analyze and even discuss sans the incessant cicada-like drone of information and opinions colliding with our consciousness 24/7/365.

Maybe less was actually more. Maybe print in and of itself fostered reflection and not reaction.

Ah well...I prolly just miss a time when a William Cooper or Tom Valentine could crackle across the ether transmitting dangerous truths to an audience not fingerprinted by IP and MAC address.

http://www.libertylobby.org/news_archive.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spotlight

(plenty of lib bias detected in this stub)

The Spotlight has been described in media reports as promoting an America First position and giving positive coverage to the political campaigns of Pat Buchanan and David Duke.[3] The Spotlight gave frequent coverage to complementary and alternative medicine, including advertisements for the purported anti-cancer supplement Laetrile.[4] Kevin J. Flynn's book The Silent Brotherhood described The Spotlight as regularly featuring "articles on such topics as Bible analysis, taxes and fighting the IRS, bankers and how they bleed the middle class, and how the nation is manipulated by the dreaded Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations", adding "the paper attracted a huge diversity of readers".[5] NameBase described the newspaper as "anti-elitist, opposed the Gulf War, wanted the JFK assassination reinvestigated, and felt that corruption and conspiracies can be found in high places"

Gd5150

Quote from: ItsOver on December 22, 2018, 07:10:53 AM
Welcome to a partial Fed government shutdown and we're still alive.  I thought the world was suppose to end.

Sources are reporting that people inside are hearing from boots on the ground that it’s devastating. The country is more unneutralized than when The President of the United States, Donald J Millhouse Trump ended net neutrality and closed the internets.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
Nice of you to context CFR toadie Max Boot for me, I really have no further doubts as to your adherence to globalism. And frankly how is that YOU have some special insight into which kind of immigrants he's speaking of? Put it this way, America doesn't have a legal immigrant crisis - so any discussion of said would be a moot point. Capisce?

How do you know this, are you two close correspondents?

Ah the famed Wikipedia graffiti scholar is back with his appeal to perceived authority.

How many socialist nations with pseudo-democracy do you endorse - mainly the Scandinavian ones, or do stretch the idiom of democracy to all liberal democracies with figurehead "royal" families?

Do you even think for yourself?

That's a Goddamned fucking LIE you asshole! I posted a citation from the Conservapedia and buttressed it with an unambiguous dictionary definition. Do you think that because I posted them yesterday they somehow no longer exist?

Again with the self-serving appeal to perceived authority. We really have nothing to say to each other on this subject. After all your reply to my citations was a rather close-minded "rejected" so I suggest you wiki yourself into a lather of community edited political "correctness" if that's what cleanses your soul of fronting for a movement that diminishes actual American sovereignty.

Enjoy your corrupted UN, for they are the living, breathing nexus of globalism. >:( >:( >:(

I post on BG because I enjoy the lively commentary and discussion on topics of interest to me that goes on continuously so that one can jump in at one’s convenience 24/7.   It provides an outlet for expression of support or opposition to positions taken on the issues of the day that is far superior to yelling at a TV screen.  Equally important, it’s a place one can go to just shoot the shit.

As is true with most things in life,  there is also a downside to BellGab.  One of them is having to put up with the histrionics of a few posters who can in no way entertain ideas and opinions that conflict with their often extreme, often fantastical views or respond in an adult manner.  They take their arguments way beyond the usual smack talk and elbow throwing that can emerge in heated discussions and when their arguments at last sputter and fail they  lash out hysterically with nonsensical vitriol that gives one concern for their mental stability and the very real fear that a mass shooting may be about to take place somewhere.  Such is the case with the above post.

Most of us enjoy a good conspiracy theory and find some of them credible in whole or in part.   However, there are those who are prone to accepting conspiracy theories on their face and instead of examining them objectively by doing research that includes opposing views, seek out and consider only that which tends to reenforce what they already have chosen to believe.   It doesn’t  matter how impossibly labyrinthian and elaborate the story line gets to be over time or how many contradictions to earlier versions there are in the latest iteration,  these dedicated believers remain convinced of its veracity in depth and detail.  Are there certain truths or half truths in these stories?  Absolutely, but there is usually much more that comes under the heading of gross speculation, superstition and folklore.   It is one thing to believe these stories but it is quite another to make them the center of ones belief system that one defends with the raging religious fervor of a rabid jihadi.  I believe that those who go to this extreme are escapists that can’t deal with the mundane realities of life and must have a boogey man on which to base either their sense of moral superiority or victimhood.

This all started when in a post I took exception to M.D.s gleeful celebration of the death of George H. W. Bush and his claims that assigned the man blame for virtually all the evil that exists in the world today.  Metron then came out in M.D’s defense with guns blazing and in a shitstorm of lengthy, painfully verbose and meme laden posts, screeched that the Bush family are not only advocates of a one world government but are practicing pedophiles who worship Satan and sacrifice baby’s to him.  (I shorten and paraphrase to a degree here for the sake of brevity but this is most certainly the gist of his screes.)   The  conspiracy theory-based character assassination that these two indulge in on a regular basis on these boards is bad enough, but their repeated retching and puking up of unprovable accusations against Bush on the occasion of his death are beneath the lowest standard of decency and in my view set them apart as moral leper’s.

I have already wasted way too much time with these squirrels and refuse to involve myself further in their silly-ass circular arguments and attention seeking quips.    Anyone reading this who thinks I’m  being too hard on said squirrels or that their comments about Bush and his family are fully fair and justified can join them in kissing my white Anglo-Saxon ass.

SEASONS GREETINGS TO ALL






 





Kidnostad3

Quote from: Gd5150 on December 22, 2018, 02:53:26 PM
Sources are reporting that people inside are hearing from boots on the ground that it’s devastating. The country is more unneutralized than when The President of the United States, Donald J Millhouse Trump ended net neutrality and closed the internets.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 22, 2018, 12:32:51 AM
That's very true in that there's nothing new under the sun. Hal Lindsey wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth" before I was born. I'm no kid, either. Still, the End Times and/or the Rapture are here just like they were before Jesus was old enough to shave.

Shit, I read The Late Great Planet Earth when the ink was still wet.

Metron2267

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 22, 2018, 03:29:26 PM

Wow.  This post says it all.  No need for comment. 


That was yesterday's tantrum, but you seem to have more forum grief than Heather...

QuoteI post on BG because I enjoy the lively commentary and discussion on topics of interest to me that goes on continuously so that one can jump in at one’s convenience 24/7.   It provides an outlet for expression of support or opposition to positions taken on the issues of the day that is far superior to yelling at a TV screen.  Equally important, it’s a place one can go to just shoot the shit.

As is true with most things in life,  there is also a downside to BellGab.  One of them is having to put up with the histrionics of a few posters who can in no way entertain ideas and opinions that conflict with their often extreme, often fantastical views or respond in an adult manner.  They take their arguments way beyond the usual smack talk and elbow throwing that can emerge in heated discussions and when their arguments at last sputter and fail they  lash out hysterically with nonsensical vitriol that gives one concern for their mental stability and the very real fear that a mass shooting may be about to take place somewhere.  Such is the case with the above post.

Huh???

"Mass shooting"???

I think you're either losing your marbles or the projector is running again... :-\



QuoteMost of us enjoy a good conspiracy theory and find some of them credible in whole or in part.   However, there are those who are prone to accepting conspiracy theories on their face and instead of examining them objectively by doing research that includes opposing views, seek out and consider only that which tends to reenforce what they already have chosen to believe.   It doesn’t  matter how impossibly labyrinthian and elaborate the story line gets to be over time or how many contradictions to earlier versions there are in the latest iteration,  these dedicated believers remain convinced of its veracity in depth and detail.  Are there certain truths or half truths in these stories?  Absolutely, but there is usually much more that comes under the heading of gross speculation, superstition and folklore.   It is one thing to believe these stories but it is quite another to make them the center of ones belief system that one defends with the raging religious fervor of a rabid jihadi.  I believe that those who go to this extreme are escapists that can’t deal with the mundane realities of life and must have a boogey man on which to base either their sense of moral superiority or victimhood.

Perhaps your largest strawman yet.



QuoteThis all started when in a post I took exception to M.D.s gleeful celebration of the death of George H. W. Bush and his claims that assigned the man blame for virtually all the evil that exists in the world today.  Metron then came out in M.D’s defense with guns blazing and in a shitstorm of lengthy, painfully verbose and meme laden posts, screeched that the Bush family are not only advocates of a one world government but are practicing pedophiles who worship Satan and sacrifice baby’s to him.  (I shorten and paraphrase to a degree here for the sake of brevity but this is most certainly the gist of his screes.)   The  conspiracy theory-based character assassination that these two indulge in on a regular basis on these boards is bad enough, but their repeated retching and puking up of unprovable accusations against Bush on the occasion of his death are beneath the lowest standard of decency and in my view set them apart as moral leper’s.



So let's take the lies one by one...for the umpteenth fucking useless time...

1.) Yes, the Bushes are indeed globalists.
2.) I never said any Bush is a "practicing pedophile".
3.) The Skull & Bones rituals and attendant oaths are Satanic in origin, this is a fact.
4.) No claim was ever made that the Bush's "sacrifice babys[sic]" to Satan.

Do you have any clue how utterly mental you're making yourself look here with these wild strawman fictions?

I'm serious, you have literally lampooned yourself right into a corner and can't get out.



QuoteI have already wasted way too much time with these squirrels and refuse to involve myself further in their silly-ass circular arguments and attention seeking quips.    Anyone reading this who thinks I’m am being too hard on said squirrels or that their comments about Bush and his family are fully fair and justified can join them in kissing my white Anglo-Saxon ass.

SEASONS GREETINGS TO ALL

;D ;D ;D









Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 22, 2018, 03:31:20 PM


So gay! You water down everything with your mediocrity. Merry Christmas, douchebag!

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: albrecht on December 22, 2018, 12:49:00 AM
Indeed. The "good" or "bad" though, I'm decidedly mixed on the issue, is that in the past only the best, or at least the most powerful, would be preserved. But now there is too much data, shows, information; real, false, good, bad, or otherwise and, because of this there is also, again this could be good or bad, no, real, common or popular, in a good way, standard. It used to be some key works, music, books, religion, channels, or whatever but now? A brave, new world where the past stuff is bad, or not taught, and everyone just "does their own thing." I'm not sure that is good for a society, or the world.

I'm not sure what you mean, but things likely seem worse now because we have more access to world events because of new technology, access that would seem like an omnipresent god in the past. I'm sure that we would feel like we were living in the last days if we could witness all of the horrors of the world during the Dark Ages.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 22, 2018, 07:47:55 AM


I wasn't talking about you. Tell George to stick his finger back up his....nose.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 22, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
So gay! You water down everything with your mediocrity. Merry Christmas, douchebag!

Keep making like you're straight, cupcake.  That's all ya got.

Metron2267

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 22, 2018, 06:05:53 PM
I'm not sure what you mean, but things likely seem worse now because we have more access to world events because of new technology, access that would seem like an omnipresent god in the past. I'm sure that we would feel like we were living in the last days if we could witness all of the horrors of the world during the Dark Ages.

That's a really fair take Nucky - and it's been a good long while since we've had a nice global superflu or plague hasn't it? Technology just makes us feel as if everything is converging on us at once. That said there has been a regular, ongoing, accelerating coarsening of society in genera which appears to be a genie unlikely to go back in the bottle.  :-\

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