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Dr. MD MD

Quote from: GuerrillaUnReal on August 23, 2017, 04:00:19 PM
It really is offensive when liberals say my two grandfathers who fought in World War Two are the same thing as Soros sponsored violent communist retards.

Their tactics are really closer to the Nazis when they burned down their Riechstag, blamed the communists and then had communism outlawed in order to become a one party state.  ;)

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 04:10:46 PM
Their tactics are really closer to the Nazis when they burned down their Riechstag, blamed the communists and then had communism outlawed in order to become a one party state.  ;)

Yeah. I'm confused how the pro-censorship, pro-corporation, pro-violence, pro-socialist, Anti-American, anti-free speech, anti-second amendment, racist fuckheads are the good guys in this.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 23, 2017, 04:09:28 PM

Nope...Nazis are intrinsically evil..(The sentiment is the same) Keep up Barbie.

You just said that the sentiment was the same from both sides.  Maybe you should try keeping up with yourself. ???


Roswells, Art

We are going on 16 years at war with Afghanistan. Trump is going to keep it going. Why? Probably because it's making certain people even richer than they were. I've spoken with different people that work for contractors over their at different times. They all say the same as the most recent one. This particular man was building a railroad there, then it would get bombed, they would rebuild it, it would get bombed, over and over again. He realized we weren't there for rebuilding but to make money from the taxpayers who are paying for it. This guy was making 500k a year over there and decided to quit once the realization sunk in. This war in Afghanistan is a money making scheme for a few people and we are paying for it.

The following video is just Trump talking about continuing the war if you're interested.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/world/asia/afghanistan-troops-trump.html?mcubz=0

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
We are going on 16 years at war with Afghanistan. Trump is going to keep it going. Why? Probably because it's making certain people even richer than they were. I've spoken with different people that work for contractors over their at different times. They all say the same as the most recent one. This particular man was building a railroad there, then it would get bombed, they would rebuild it, it would get bombed, over and over again. He realized we weren't there for rebuilding but to make money from the taxpayers who are paying for it. This guy was making 500k a year over there and decided to quit once the realization sunk in. This war in Afghanistan is a money making scheme and we are paying for it.

The following video is just Trump talking about continuing the war if you're interested.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/world/asia/afghanistan-troops-trump.html?mcubz=0

Simple answer: It's rich in minerals and opium that we don't want other countries like China to get.  ;) ;)

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 04:19:52 PM
Simple answer: It's rich in minerals and opium that we don't want other countries like China to get.  ;) ;)

That too, but also what I said.

I don't disagree the Afghanistan War expansion is a huge blight on the Trump Administration and absolutely pointless.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
That too, but also what I said.

Yeah, for sure and what's not obvious in my statement is that it's not like we the people get those resources. They're divided up among different corporations which these days hold no allegiance to any nation. So, wait...what?!  ???

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
We are going on 16 years at war with Afghanistan. Trump is going to keep it going. Why? Probably because it's making certain people even richer than they were. I've spoken with different people that work for contractors over their at different times. They all say the same as the most recent one. This particular man was building a railroad there, then it would get bombed, they would rebuild it, it would get bombed, over and over again. He realized we weren't there for rebuilding but to make money from the taxpayers who are paying for it. This guy was making 500k a year over there and decided to quit once the realization sunk in. This war in Afghanistan is a money making scheme for a few people and we are paying for it.

The following video is just Trump talking about continuing the war if you're interested.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/world/asia/afghanistan-troops-trump.html?mcubz=0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLR-DgGiZ_Y

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
We are going on 16 years at war with Afghanistan. Trump is going to keep it going. Why? Probably because it's making certain people even richer than they were. I've spoken with different people that work for contractors over their at different times. They all say the same as the most recent one. This particular man was building a railroad there, then it would get bombed, they would rebuild it, it would get bombed, over and over again. He realized we weren't there for rebuilding but to make money from the taxpayers who are paying for it. This guy was making 500k a year over there and decided to quit once the realization sunk in. This war in Afghanistan is a money making scheme for a few people and we are paying for it.

The following video is just Trump talking about continuing the war if you're interested.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/world/asia/afghanistan-troops-trump.html?mcubz=0

I should add that these people I spoke to were flesh and blood humans (I think) and not people on the internet.

Dr. MD MD

I was listening to a pentagon general earlier today trying to sell us on war with NK. He originally framed Kim as certifiably insane. When the interviewer rightly questioned whether we could therefore even take his threats as credible the general said that even though he was certifiably insane he had streaks of rationality.  :D

albrecht

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
I should add that these people I spoke to were flesh and blood humans (I think) and not people on the internet.
Lots of money being made and often you don't even need to actual go over (and so possibly be in danger) you can see this in the real estate values and salaries inside-the-beltway and now increasing larger areas of Virginia and Maryland. I have a family friend who just retired and he was head of consul for what became a huge contractor, has a nice horse farm and huge house and is, literally, 'fat and happy' traveling all over the place etc. Even just minions at places like DOS, US AID, etc make decent change and this is the reason why the constant war policies must continue. I also have another friend who is over there somewhere and making $$, he can't talk about what he is doing and only gets to skpe his family occasionally but he was non-military so I doubt actual fighting.)

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
the general said that even though he was certifiably insane he had streaks of rationality.  :D

I've lost my eyeballs. I think I eye-rolled too hard.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:37:46 PM
I've lost my eyeballs. I think I eye-rolled too hard.

Yeah, this is why I tend to think that NK has been a deep state plant all along. Whenever they need to divert our attention from something they don't want us to focus on there's always NK. Why else would we have given them the tech to make this possible?!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GuerrillaUnReal on August 23, 2017, 04:13:11 PM
Yeah. I'm confused how the pro-censorship, pro-corporation, pro-violence, pro-socialist, Anti-American, anti-free speech, anti-second amendment, racist fuckheads are the good guys in this.


Trump is pro censorship...He asked Bill Gates to get onto it... And pro corporation (Note how Karl Icahn has had to resign? Look into his little bit of insider dealing!  Oh, and he's very anti free speech; He wants to shut down anyone who disagrees with him... And he's racist...He point blank refused to employ black people a few years ago...Oh and his relentless pursuit of Obama (which he later retracted). He's pro violence. He said he'd pay the legal fees of anyone 'beating the crap' (Quote) of demonstrators at one of his rallies. And he's definitely anti 2nd amendment...he only sucks up to the NRA because they pay the politicians.


Your turn Karl. ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 23, 2017, 04:45:45 PM
Trump is pro censorship...He asked Bill Gates to get onto it... And pro corporation (Note how Karl Icahn has had to resign? Look into his little bit of insider dealing!  Oh, and he's very anti free speech; He wants to shut down anyone who disagrees with him... And he's racist...He point blank refused to employ black people a few years ago...Oh and his relentless pursuit of Obama (which he later retracted). He's pro violence. He said he'd pay the legal fees of anyone 'beating the crap' (Quote) of demonstrators at one of his rallies. And he's definitely anti 2nd amendment...he only sucks up to the NRA because they pay the politicians.


Your turn Karl. ;)


Roswells, Art

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
Yeah, this is why I tend to think that NK has been a deep state plant all along. Whenever they need to divert our attention from something they don't want us to focus on there's always NK. Why else would we have given them the tech to make this possible?!

I can't disagree.

P.S. I found one eyeball and put it back in its socket. I just used an old ping-pong ball for the other one.


Gd5150

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
Yeah, this is why I tend to think that NK has been a deep state plant all along. Whenever they need to divert our attention from something they don't want us to focus on there's always NK. Why else would we have given them the tech to make this possible?!

Agreed. In June the word on the street was, and had been for 2 decades, NK could have a nukYOUler warhead in the next decade. In July they had a missile that could possibly reach japan. In August they suddenly had 30-60 warheads and missiles that could reach Chicago. And this based on info that was 4 years old.

We haven't seen BS shoveled like that since bubba declared a 3 trillion surplus in June 2000, a 4 trillion surplus in July 2000, and a 5.5 trillion dollar surplus in August 2000.



Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 23, 2017, 04:45:45 PM
Trump is pro censorship...He asked Bill Gates to get onto it... And pro corporation (Note how Karl Icahn has had to resign? Look into his little bit of insider dealing!  Oh, and he's very anti free speech; He wants to shut down anyone who disagrees with him... And he's racist...He point blank refused to employ black people a few years ago...Oh and his relentless pursuit of Obama (which he later retracted). He's pro violence. He said he'd pay the legal fees of anyone 'beating the crap' (Quote) of demonstrators at one of his rallies. And he's definitely anti 2nd amendment...he only sucks up to the NRA because they pay the politicians.


Your turn Karl. ;)


Roswells, Art

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 04:26:17 PM
Yeah, for sure and what's not obvious in my statement is that it's not like we the people get those resources. They're divided up among different corporations which these days hold no allegiance to any nation. So, wait...what?!  ???

Yep, Citizens United, eh?

For those that should know but don't:

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission 558 U.S. 310 (2010) is a landmark U.S. constitutional law and corporate law case dealing with regulation of campaign spending by organizations. The United States Supreme Court held (5â€"4) on January 21, 2010 that freedom of speech prohibits government from restricting independent political expenditures by nonprofit corporations, for-profit corporations, labor unions and other associations.

Basically American politics can be bought by anyone in the world with enough money. Free speech, yo,

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 05:07:57 PM
Yep, Citizens United, eh?

For those that should know but don't:

The United States Supreme Court held (5â€"4) on January 21, 2010 that freedom of speech prohibits government from restricting independent political expenditures by nonprofit corporations, for-profit corporations, labor unions and other associations.

Real war has never been between nations but between classes. More specifically it's the rich declaring war on everyone else in order to get richer.  ;)

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 05:12:06 PM
Real war has never been between nations but between classes. More specifically it's the rich declaring war on everyone else in order to get richer.  ;)

Yes.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 05:07:57 PM
Yep, Citizens United, eh?

For those that should know but don't:

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission 558 U.S. 310 (2010) is a landmark U.S. constitutional law and corporate law case dealing with regulation of campaign spending by organizations. The United States Supreme Court held (5â€"4) on January 21, 2010 that freedom of speech prohibits government from restricting independent political expenditures by nonprofit corporations, for-profit corporations, labor unions and other associations.

Basically American politics can be bought by anyone in the world with enough money. Free speech, yo,

Except in 2016, if your supposition was to hold up, Hillary Clinton would have beaten Jeb Bush on election day.

Roswells, Art

Quote from: GravitySucks on August 23, 2017, 05:15:09 PM
Except in 2016, if your supposition was to hold up, Hillary Clinton would have beaten Jeb Bush on election day.

Both of them can be bought off.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 23, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
That too, but also what I said.

What do you suppose would happen if we just up and pulled out of Afghanistan?  Did you not hear Trump say we are not there to nation build? Ergo no more railroad building.  What is your point exactly? 

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 23, 2017, 05:39:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6051zg_y8K0

This guy likes Arpaio?! They were just busting him on stuff that they could, he did a lot more that they didn't bust him on. He should rot in prison in the worst way possible. Mainly for not giving a shit about American/Mexicans that were victimized.

Roswells, Art

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 23, 2017, 05:44:27 PM
What do you suppose would happen if we just up and pulled out of Afghanistan?  Did you not hear Trump say we are not there to nation build? Ergo no more railroad building.  What is your point exactly?

Sorry, I didn't hear that part. He isn't giving us many details though so I guess we will have to wait and pay...I mean, see.

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