President Donald J. Trump

[PB the Deplorable]

... Your moral outrage is selective. Where's all the outrage for all the other despots and injustices going on in the world?! Gotcha! 

Pud was aghast that Neo-Nazis and the KKK are allowed to speak in the US.  He was quite outraged by Trump's comments, as cued by the fake media he adores, although there was noting wrong with the comments.

Any word from him on Marxists, La Raza type hate groups, CAIR and other terrorist supporters operating openly?  No.  Any discouraging words about our America hating rioters?  No.

If it were up to him, Pud wouldn't let the Klan speak, but he can't even show distain for the Marxists.  He wants our president to attack Putin, but he doesn't have a thing to say about that Muslim terrorist supporting mayor in London

[Dr. MD MD]

Pud was aghast that Neo-Nazis and the KKK are allowed to speak in the US.  He was quite outraged by Trump's comments, as cued by the fake media he adores, although there was noting wrong with the comments.

Any word from him on Marxists, La Raza type hate groups, CAIR and other terrorist supporters operating openly?  No.  Any discouraging words about our America hating rioters?  No.

If it were up to him, Pud wouldn't let the Klan speak, but he can't even show distain for the Marxists.  He wants our president to attack Putin, but he doesn't have a thing to say about that Muslim terrorist supporting mayor in London

One order of authoritarianism, heavy on the hypocrisy. 

[Yorkshire pud]

No, they don't.  They don't pay what they've agreed to.

Yes they do.

That has nothing to do with bases, gathering posts, ships mooring, or any of the rest.

Ha ha..Yeah, See how it would go if they weren't there. The US military machine only works with co-operation of NATO allies. Take them out of the frame and the US military would be holed up.

Our presence protects you, and keeps the peace.  Or don't you know your European history. 

Its a mutual thing. See above. Without all of NATO, the US wouldn't have anywhere near the strength they have. Its worth bearing in mind the US spends more on its military than Russia, China and the rest of NATO, combined. It isn't defence, its to keep people in jobs.

We protect you and keep the peace because it's in our national interest.  If we are no longer welcome, please let us know and we'll leave.  But until then Europe needs to pay what they agreed to, or renegotiate.

The grown ups in NATO (minus Trump) know what is involved in NATO. Trump can bluster and bitch all he wants, but when it comes to 'deals' he hasn't a clue unless he's cheating the other one.

What grown ups would those be?  The European leadership is rudderless and weak.  Worst collective bunch in the modern era (post WWII), possibly ever.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[PB the Deplorable]

... It isn't fake news you idiot...

When they criticize every move Trump or the Republicans make, and support every move Obama made, it's fake news.  The opposite of fair, balanced, accurate, let the reader decide news.

When advocacy groups claim to be news reporters, their product is fake news.  It gives a fase sense of what is happening.  It sways the uninformed to predetermined conclusions.  It's something other than just reporting the events of the day, which is what they claim to be doing - they invented the term fake news, it fits, so let's use that.

[Dr. MD MD]

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBzAwro8M90

[Yorkshire pud]

  He wants our president to attack Putin, but he doesn't have a thing to say about that Muslim terrorist supporting mayor in London

This is the Trump thread right?  :


Oh you really need to keep up with the London Mayor. But I guess because he doesn't depend on the KKK and nazis to get votes like Trump does, or ISIS, he's not a winner?

[Dr. MD MD]

This is the Trump thread right?  :


Oh you really need to keep up with the London Mayor. But I guess because he doesn't depend on the KKK and nazis to get votes like Trump does, or ISIS, he's not a winner?

Just call central casting like the Democrats do. 

[Yorkshire pud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBzAwro8M90

Jesus fucking Christ, you're desperate!! Thatcher has been dead over four years. That video is from about fifteen years before that.

[Dr. MD MD]

Jesus fucking Christ, you're desperate!! Thatcher has been dead over four years. That video is from about fifteen years before that.

Yes, pud and she's talking about how weak and spineless European leaders are. They're a weak lot. 

[PB the Deplorable]

... Actually Obama was heavily criticised...

Not by the folks calling themselves the mainstream media.  He was heavily criticized by commentators - people who state they are providing opinions.  The commentators also happen to present a considerable amount of news that the Fake News Media fails to report - and in that sense they are also reporters.  They then offer commentary on that.  Their listeners should be intelligent enough to tell the difference between news and commentary.

If the Fake News Media simply admitted to being advocates, instead of pretending to be simple journalists simply presenting the events of the day, that would be fine.  But then more people would question what they hear from them.

[PB the Deplorable]

Jesus fucking Christ, you're desperate!! Thatcher has been dead over four years. That video is from about fifteen years before that.

The only thing that's changed is now Britain has a weak leader too

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVRcT9lsSoI

[PB the Deplorable]

This is the Trump thread right?  :


Oh you really need to keep up with the London Mayor. But I guess because he doesn't depend on the KKK and nazis to get votes like Trump does, or ISIS, he's not a winner?

Oh, right, Mayor Khan ''apologized'' and said his comments about those Moslems not supporting terrorists being ''Uncle Toms'' were meant for the people of Iran only.  That covers the current occupant of London's mayor's office.  He's still allowed to speak.

On to CAIR, La Raza, and the Marxists.  Would you ban them from speaking along with the Klan?

[Yorkshire pud]

On to CAIR, La Raza, and the Marxists.  Would you ban them from speaking along with the Klan?

Of the above, how many have lynched someone because of the colour of their skin?

[PB the Deplorable]

Of the above, how many have lynched someone because of the colour of their skin?

Is that where the line is drawn?  You also questioned why the Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists, as well as the Klan, weren't banned from speaking. 

Since those others aren't really known for lynching, I wondered where you stood on some of the other known hate groups, and on other groups whose philosophies were responsible for genocide and mass murder. 

I'm asking whether CAIR, La Raza, and the Marxists fit into the above categories for you and thus should be banned from speaking, and if not, why not.

[PB the Deplorable]

PS, isn't speech that is threatening and advocates violence already illegal?  I think it is. 

Let's treat that as the crime it is, and arrest and prosecute those engaging in it in public settings such as ''protests'', ''demonstrations'', and rallies.  Regardless of what ideas they are advocating or opposing.  Let's police actions, including threatening speech and the advocation of violence, instead of thoughts and ideas.

Of course that would mean the arrest and prosecution of far more Acorn / Solidarity / Occupy / BLM / Antifa types than anyone else.  Which is why it hasn't been done all these years.

[Gd5150]

Pud was aghast that Neo-Nazis and the KKK are allowed to speak in the US.  He was quite outraged by Trump's comments, as cued by the fake media he adores, although there was noting wrong with the comments.

Here's the transcript of Trump 1st addressing the matter in Charlottesville that Saturday afternoon. I've underlined parts that were inflammatory and pro white supremacist.

we’re closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It’s been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama, this has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America. What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives. No citizen should ever fear for their safety and security in our society. And no child should ever be afraid to go outside and play or be with their parents and have a good time.
I just got off the phone with the governor of Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, and we agree that the hate and the division must stop, and must stop right now. We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation and true affectionâ€" really, I say this so strongly, true affection for each other.

Notice in bold, in the interest of peace and racial harmony Trump even went as far as to specifically not blame Obama, or Democrats, despite the fact we all know Obama set race relations back 50 years with his race baiting and ignorant commentary on inflammatory racial incidents before the evidence had even been collected.

Isn't it interesting, before Trump even made his 1st comments on Charllottesville, he spoke with the former head of the Demokkkrat party gov Terry Mccauliffe. The man who ordered the police to stand down. Funny how the media coordinated fake outrage in response to the above Trump statement came minutes after Mccaullife got off the phone with Trump. Wonder who Mccauliffe called next? All part of the DNC/Media coordinated fake outrage. The entire matter is a total sham. Such a shame the Demokkkrats didn't get the gun violence and martyrs they were praying for.

[albrecht]

Here's the transcript of Trump 1st addressing the matter in Charlottesville that Saturday afternoon. I've underlined parts that were inflammatory and pro white supremacist.

Notice in bold, in the interest of peace and racial harmony Trump even went as far as to specifically not blame Obama, or Democrats, despite the fact we all know Obama set race relations back 50 years with his race baiting and ignorant commentary on inflammatory racial incidents before the evidence had even been collected.

Isn't it interesting, before Trump even made his 1st comments on Charllottesville, he spoke with the former head of the Demokkkrat party gov Terry Mccauliffe. The man who ordered the police to stand down. Funny how the media coordinated fake outrage in response to the above Trump statement came minutes after Mccaullife got off the phone with Trump. Wonder who Mccauliffe called next? All part of the DNC/Media coordinated fake outrage. The entire matter is a total sham. Such a shame the Demokkkrats didn't get the gun violence and martyrs they were praying for.

Mccauliffe claimed 80% of the people in Charlottesville protest had semi-automatic weapons. He claimed that the USA loses 93 million A DAY to guns. He is a known Clintonista from the old days and he, and his wife, had some funny campaign and donation issues. He also allowed ex-cons to vote to help Democrats in recent elections. Nobody should even pay attention to him.
http://www.businessinsider.com/virginia-gov-mcauliffe-defends-charlottesville-police-better-semiautomatic-guns-white-nationalists-2017-8

http://youtu.be/LZzjGYyI3Dg

[paladin1991]

Seig Heil, your Majesty!

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMNcX44dsfQ

[paladin1991]

They do, but even if they didn't you know that isn't how NATO works, right? It can work both ways. The rest of NATO could evict US airbases, intel bases, disband intel gathering that goes to the US directly, forbid US ships mooring up in their harbours, close Faslane to US subs, cancel exercises, cancel any training that advantages US personel, etc etc....

Oh please, pud.  We've been through this.  PLEASE, have Europe tell us to go home.  But don't expect us to expend our fortunes, our lives and our very honor to save you again.  If it's in our national interest, maybe we'll just nuke our next euro enemy.  "Too bad we had to nuke Birmingham to save it. Maybe if the Brits and Euros had had the balls to stand up for themselves we wouldn't have had to take out Birmingham, and Calais and Oslo and Stuttgart and Vienna and.... "   

[paladin1991]

Yes they do.

Ha ha..Yeah, See how it would go if they weren't there. The US military machine only works with co-operation of NATO allies. Take them out of the frame and the US military would be holed up.

Its a mutual thing. See above. Without all of NATO, the US wouldn't have anywhere near the strength they have. Its worth bearing in mind the US spends more on its military than Russia, China and the rest of NATO, combined. It isn't defence, its to keep people in jobs.

The grown ups in NATO (minus Trump) know what is involved in NATO. Trump can bluster and bitch all he wants, but when it comes to 'deals' he hasn't a clue unless he's cheating the other one.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about

Nato has been sucking US cock for 6 decades without any feeling or emotion on their part.  And charging us to do it.

Euro cucks whine self importantly about how the US needs them.  The American people have invested themselves, mostly unknowingly, into guaranteeing that Europe continues to exist as is classically defined by the maps of the world.  WE could give a fuck if you are independent states or a E.U. We really don't care if you speak, English, Spanish, German or Russian.  I know I'm bouncing around a bit here, but I think you are getting the drift.  Increasingly, Joe Sixpack American could give a fuck about you. 

We don't need a huge military.  You need us to have a huge military so you can play at being something more than a neighborhood police force. 

Europe does not pay its fair share towards its own existence.  If it weren't for our expenditures on your behalf, you wouldn't have your universal healthcare, such as it is.  You wouldn't be able to afford it.  Your socialist British world would collapse without the US.  Shit, we need China more than we need Britain.  It's just damn hard to turn your back on family no matter how distant they've become.

The US and Britain have fought each other and fought together.  Kinda like that divorced couple that is on generally good terms with each other.  But America is the man and Britain is the woman.  So go get me a fucking Gin martini and take off your clothes.  I'm ready for you now.

[starrmtn001]

LIVE: Rex Tillerson holds URGENT State Department Press Briefing Regarding Trump Military Strategy.  8.22.17.


https://youtu.be/lCWTJslkcGc

[paladin1991]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBzAwro8M90

Britain needs another Maggie Thatcher.  She understood that Britain is separated fm Europe by more than the channel.  She recognized that Britain is/was the natural partner to the US. 

That must really be a bitter pill to swallow, pud.  That the US and Britain should stand side by side.  You leftist mongering dentally challenged miscreant.   

[paladin1991]

This is the Trump thread right?  :


Oh you really need to keep up with the London Mayor. But I guess because he doesn't depend on the KKK and nazis to get votes like Trump does, or ISIS, he's not a winner?

Guess not.  How are his teeth, btw?

[paladin1991]

Jesus fucking Christ, you're desperate!! Thatcher has been dead over four years. That video is from about fifteen years before that.

She still gives me a hard on.

[paladin1991]

Is that where the line is drawn?  You also questioned why the Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists, as well as the Klan, weren't banned from speaking. 

Since those others aren't really known for lynching, I wondered where you stood on some of the other known hate groups, and on other groups whose philosophies were responsible for genocide and mass murder. 

I'm asking whether CAIR, La Raza, and the Marxists fit into the above categories for you and thus should be banned from speaking, and if not, why not.

Pud cannot answer that question.  Not honestly. 

[paladin1991]

Here's the transcript of Trump 1st addressing the matter in Charlottesville that Saturday afternoon. I've underlined parts that were inflammatory and pro white supremacist.

Notice in bold, in the interest of peace and racial harmony Trump even went as far as to specifically not blame Obama, or Democrats, despite the fact we all know Obama set race relations back 50 years with his race baiting and ignorant commentary on inflammatory racial incidents before the evidence had even been collected.

Isn't it interesting, before Trump even made his 1st comments on Charllottesville, he spoke with the former head of the Demokkkrat party gov Terry Mccauliffe. The man who ordered the police to stand down. Funny how the media coordinated fake outrage in response to the above Trump statement came minutes after Mccaullife got off the phone with Trump. Wonder who Mccauliffe called next? All part of the DNC/Media coordinated fake outrage. The entire matter is a total sham. Such a shame the Demokkkrats didn't get the gun violence and martyrs they were praying for.

Come on man.  You're trying to hard.  The only thing the Left and Logic have in common is the letter L.

[Up All Night]

When McCain and Graham are all of a sudden backing the president with praise you know he's been successfully co-opted by the deep state. Bush NWO agenda back on track. 

Well, I don't know.... but maybe Trump is playing Chess while the others are playing checkers...

Maybe Trump can now get McCain and Graham votes on something else.

The Generals will be running the Afgan Offensive.

Trump is not LBJ, the fucker LBJ and Vietnam, when it comes to prosecuting the war on the Taliban in Afganistan.

[Up All Night]

Actually Obama was heavily criticized.

Obama was not assailed by the MSM as Trump is.

ANY public figure is going to be criticized.

With Obama, they sometimes criticized his statements or actions, for example, with regard to the launch of Obamacare.

But, with Trump, the fucking MSM, assail Trump's person. The other night, Colbert, made a point to say this about President Trump: "He's a Liar."

With all of the broken promises about the Affordable Healthcare Act, I never once recall, any late night talk show host, or the MSM, directly assailing President Obama, just flat out calling him a liar.

The difference is noted.

So, it's not a question of "Can you criticize a President?"

But, it is a question of "how" you criticize a President.

And, joyfully, we have a President that will take the gloves off and fight the fucking MSM hand-to-hand combat, when he feels it's necessary.

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