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POTUS Makes Good On Threat-U.S. Strike Kills Senior Iranian Commander Soleimani

Started by starrmtn001, January 02, 2020, 11:06:18 PM

Quote from: Stupid Robbings on January 05, 2020, 07:24:18 PM
Privacy would be a convenient contrivance for cover of desirable secrecy.  What are the odds that the American contractor was a permanent resident of Arab descent, working for Acadami?

The American civilian defense contractor whose murder by Iran-backed forces in Iraq sparked American retaliation was Nawres Waleed Hamid, a Muslim-American immigrant from Sacramento, California. He was laid to rest last Saturday.

Hamid was killed in a rocket attack on Americans Dec. 27 at an Iraqi military base near the city of Kirkuk. Several American and Iraqi soldiers were also wounded in the attack, blamed on the Iranian-backed Kata’ib Hizbollah (KH). In response, the U.S. bombed five KH facilities in Iraq and Syria. Iran responded by using KH and another militia, the Popular Mobilization Force (PMF), to attack and damage the U.S. embassy in Baghdad on Dec. 31.

Hamid’s family belongs to a growing community of Iraqi immigrants in Sacramento and across California. Hamid’s widow told the Sacramento Bee that they came to the U.S. in 2011, when she was pregnant with their eldest son.

It was not immediately clear whether Hamid and his wife moved to the U.S. on a special immigrant visa or through another pathway for Iraqis who have helped the American military, such as the P-2 Direct Access Program that allows people to apply for refugee resettlement in the United States through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/10/trump-launched-iran-strikes-to-avenge-murder-of-american-muslim-immigrant/

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 10, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
Everytime she says something it’s just so obviously a shameless lie. These people couldn’t act their way out of a wet paper bag let alone convince the populace they’re legit.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/10/john-kerry-complains-donald-trump-ruined-iran-deal/

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Stupid Robbings on January 10, 2020, 07:04:55 PM
The American civilian defense contractor whose murder by Iran-backed forces in Iraq sparked American retaliation was Nawres Waleed Hamid, a Muslim-American immigrant from Sacramento, California. He was laid to rest last Saturday.

Hamid was killed in a rocket attack on Americans Dec. 27 at an Iraqi military base near the city of Kirkuk. Several American and Iraqi soldiers were also wounded in the attack, blamed on the Iranian-backed Kata’ib Hizbollah (KH). In response, the U.S. bombed five KH facilities in Iraq and Syria. Iran responded by using KH and another militia, the Popular Mobilization Force (PMF), to attack and damage the U.S. embassy in Baghdad on Dec. 31.

Hamid’s family belongs to a growing community of Iraqi immigrants in Sacramento and across California. Hamid’s widow told the Sacramento Bee that they came to the U.S. in 2011, when she was pregnant with their eldest son.

It was not immediately clear whether Hamid and his wife moved to the U.S. on a special immigrant visa or through another pathway for Iraqis who have helped the American military, such as the P-2 Direct Access Program that allows people to apply for refugee resettlement in the United States through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/10/trump-launched-iran-strikes-to-avenge-murder-of-american-muslim-immigrant/

Exactly as I said, the death of this government contractor was not announced by the DoD as it's beyond their authority due to privacy laws.  Would have made no difference if he had been a documented descendant of one of those 102 hearty souls who sailed over on the Mayflower.

RIP Mr Hamid, your adopted nation thanks you for your sacrifice.

Kidnostad3

Homeless Iranian national detained by police had knives, ax, machete and $22K.

https://michaelsavage.com/palm-beach-iranian-national-detained-by-police-had-knives-ax-machete-22k/

Why is there an itinerant Iranian of military age wandering around in my state apparently paying for his expenses in cash only.  Malicious Intentions Suspected? 

Uncle Duke

As predicted, the Iranians have copped a plea with the US able to confirm the shootdown was an accident.

https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 10, 2020, 10:07:39 PM
As predicted, the Iranians have copped a plea with the US able to confirm the shootdown was an accident.

https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e

Damn!  Jack was right about the extent of the Mason's/Illuminati's/Rothchild's/Elks' reach.  Now they even have the mullahs cooperating with them.  What next?

AZZERAE

My best friend and I were chilling the other night, when he began this rant about how Trump has no right to just kill foreign leaders on a whim.

Now, keep in mind, I've been on a total media fast (stroke blackout) for close to a year at this point, and I try steer clear of certain discussions ... But I will say, while I consider myself very much conservative in most respects, this friend of mine has been expressing left wing sentiments more and more frequently of late.

Now, the reason it doesn't concern me, is that I respect other people's views and ideas, regardless of how much they differ from my own.

So I literally didn't want to get into a debate with this guy, as I avoid that nowadays, being that I barely even know what's going on out there. But y'know, you can't avoid all media ... Eventually certain things will wash ashore, regardless of you wanting to hear it or not.

Suffice it to say, my buddy went on to say (and angrily I might add), that "any country that was opposed to the assassination of foreign leaders should be able to ban Trump from visiting their country." Being that this friend of mine is usually an even tempered felow, I was quite surprised at how animated he became. I tried to tell him I didn't want to get into any of it, but he kept getting louder.

Eventually I said that I thought banning a duly elected President from ones country is nonsensical. Not in those words, of course. I believe in diplomacy, no matter what perceived wrongs any given figurehead has perpetrated on a foreign people.

But maybe I'm all wet.


starrmtn001

Quote from: AZZERAE on January 11, 2020, 03:49:03 AM
My best friend and I were chilling the other night, when he began this rant about how Trump has no right to just kill foreign leaders on a whim.

It was not a whim.  Intelligence had data that Soleimani had plans to blow up 3 US Embassies in Iran.
He was prevented from doing so.


ItsOver

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 10, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
Everytime she says something it’s just so obviously a shameless lie. These people couldn’t act their way out of a wet paper bag let alone convince the populace they’re legit.
Just like the Iranian jackasses.

"Iran’s Foreign Minister Javad Zarif blamed the U.S. for Iran’s mistaken decision to shoot down the plane, tweeting: “Human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster.”

Here's to hoping further "US adventurism" leads to Zarif's and compatriots being "mistakenly" terminated.


'The Ukrainian prosecutor general's office said on Saturday it is investigating possible willful killing and aircraft destruction in its probe of the crash.'

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iranian-protesters-demand-Khamenei-quits-over-plane-downing-613857

Quote from: AZZERAE on January 11, 2020, 03:49:03 AM
My best friend and I were chilling the other night, when he began this rant about how Trump has no right to just kill foreign leaders on a whim...

Executive Order #11905, prohibits assassination of heads of state.  Soleimani was not head of state, and he wasn't in Iran.  He was in Iraq.  Iraq remains theater of, The International War On Terror.



Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 10, 2020, 08:06:40 PM
Exactly as I said, the death of this government contractor was not announced by the DoD as it's beyond their authority due to privacy laws.  Would have made no difference if he had been a documented descendant of one of those 102 hearty souls who sailed over on the Mayflower.

RIP Mr Hamid, your adopted nation thanks you for your sacrifice.

Again, you attempt to steer everyone away from the point. 

Who was the private contractor working for, and what was he doing?  My bet is that he was employed by Acadami.  Do you recall why Blackwater changed it's name to Acadami?

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Academi is an American private military company founded in 1997 by former Navy SEAL officer Erik Prince[2][3] as Blackwater,[4] renamed as Xe Services in 2009 and known as Academi since 2011 after the company was acquired by a group of private investors.[5] The company received widespread notoriety in 2007, when a group of its employees killed 14 Iraqi civilians and injured 20 in Nisour Square, Baghdad for which four guards were convicted in a U.S. court.[6][7]

Academi provides security services to the United States federal government on a contractual basis. Since 2003, the group has provided services to the Central Intelligence Agency. In 2013, Academi subsidiary International Development Solutions received an approximately $92 million contract for State Department security guards.[8]

In 2014, Academi became a division of Constellis Group along with Triple Canopy and other security companies that were part of the Constellis Group as the result of an acquisition.[9][10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi


The Nisour Square Massacre occurred on September 16, 2007 where employees of Blackwater Security Consulting (now Academi), a private military company contracted by the US government to provide security services in Iraq, shot at Iraqi civilians, killing 17 and injuring 20 in Nisour Square, Baghdad, while escorting a U.S. embassy convoy.[1][2][3] The killings outraged Iraqis and strained relations between Iraq and the United States.[4] In 2014, four Blackwater employees were tried[5] and convicted in U.S. federal court; one of murder, and the other three of manslaughter and firearms charges.[6]

Blackwater guards claimed that the convoy was ambushed and that they fired at the attackers in defense of the convoy. The Iraqi government and Iraqi police investigator Faris Saadi Abdul stated that the killings were unprovoked.[7][8] The next day, Blackwater Worldwide's license to operate in Iraq was temporarily revoked.[9] The U.S. State Department has said that "innocent life was lost",[10] and according to the Washington Post, a military report appeared to corroborate "the Iraqi government's contention that Blackwater was at fault".[11] The Iraqi government vowed to punish Blackwater.[12] The incident sparked at least five investigations, including one from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.[13] The FBI investigation found that, of the 17 Iraqis killed by the guards, at least 14 were shot without cause.[14]

In December 2008, the U.S. charged five Blackwater guards with 14 counts of manslaughter, 20 counts of attempted manslaughter and a weapons violation but on December 31, 2009, a U.S. district judge dismissed all charges on the grounds that the case against the Blackwater guards had been improperly built on testimony given in exchange for immunity.[15] Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki harshly criticized the dismissal.[16] In April 2011, a U.S. federal appeals court reinstated the manslaughter charges against Paul A. Slough, Evan S. Liberty, Dustin L. Heard and Donald W. Ball after closed-door testimony. The court said "We find that the district court's findings depend on an erroneous view of the law,"[17] A fifth guard had his charges dismissed, and a sixth guard (Jeremy Ridgeway) pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and attempted manslaughter.[3] On January 6, 2012, Blackwater settled a lawsuit filed on behalf of six of the victims for an undisclosed sum.[18] On October 22, 2014, a Federal District Court jury convicted Nick Slatten of first-degree murder, and three other guards (Slough, Liberty and Heard) guilty of all three counts of voluntary manslaughter and using a machine gun to commit a violent crime.[6][19] On April 13, 2015, Slatten was sentenced to life in prison, while the other three guards were sentenced to 30 years in prison.[20]

On August 4, 2017, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit tossed Slatten's murder conviction and ordered the other defendants to be re-sentenced.[21] A new trial was also recommended for Slatten, on the grounds that it was unjustifiable to try him with his co-defendants, and that he should have been tried separately.[21] In December 2018, Slatten was once again convicted by a jury of murder.[22] On August 14 2019, Slatten was once again sentenced to life in prison.[23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_Square_massacre
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You along with professional reporters are remiss.

Jackstar

Quote from: Stupid Robbings on January 11, 2020, 02:04:11 PM
Again, you attempt to steer everyone away from the point. [...] You along with professional reporters are remiss.

oh snap, someone finally made Duke. Heads are going to roll.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: AZZERAE on January 11, 2020, 03:49:03 AM
My best friend and I were chilling the other night, when he began this rant about how Trump has no right to just kill foreign leaders on a whim.

Now, keep in mind, I've been on a total media fast (stroke blackout) for close to a year at this point, and I try steer clear of certain discussions ... But I will say, while I consider myself very much conservative in most respects, this friend of mine has been expressing left wing sentiments more and more frequently of late.

Now, the reason it doesn't concern me, is that I respect other people's views and ideas, regardless of how much they differ from my own.

So I literally didn't want to get into a debate with this guy, as I avoid that nowadays, being that I barely even know what's going on out there. But y'know, you can't avoid all media ... Eventually certain things will wash ashore, regardless of you wanting to hear it or not.

Suffice it to say, my buddy went on to say (and angrily I might add), that "any country that was opposed to the assassination of foreign leaders should be able to ban Trump from visiting their country." Being that this friend of mine is usually an even tempered felow, I was quite surprised at how animated he became. I tried to tell him I didn't want to get into any of it, but he kept getting louder.

Eventually I said that I thought banning a duly elected President from ones country is nonsensical. Not in those words, of course. I believe in diplomacy, no matter what perceived wrongs any given figurehead has perpetrated on a foreign people.

But maybe I'm all wet.

You might want to tell your friend that anyone of any rank or station who facilitates or participates in the killing of Americans shouldn't buy any green bananas.  That would include the Pope, the Dali Lama and the Archbishop of Canterbury were their involvement to be proven as it was in the case of Soleimani. 


Juan

Now there’s speculation that the reason the Iranians are bulldozing the plane crash site is to cover up evidence they intentionally shot down the plane. The speculators think there were several high level supporters of Soleimani aboard who were the objects of the attack.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Juan on January 11, 2020, 02:50:16 PM
Now there’s speculation that the reason the Iranians are bulldozing the plane crash site is to cover up evidence they intentionally shot down the plane. The speculators think there were several high level supporters of Soleimani aboard who were the objects of the attack.

That would be nice. 






Taaroa

This twitter thread is an interesting read through:

https://twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1216433588318679041

QuoteSoleimani also understood something unique: Though Shia are the minority, Iran's huge asymmetric advantage over Sunni rivals (like Saudi Arabia) is that all Shia extremists will fight for Iran, while most Sunni extremists-like ISIS and al Qaeda-want to overthrow Saudi Arabia


paladin1991

Quote from: starrmtn001 on January 11, 2020, 06:56:28 AM
It was not a whim.  Intelligence had data that Soleimani had plans to blow up 3 US Embassies in Iran.
He was prevented from doing so.
What?  Iran has 3 US embassies?

ItsOver

Quote from: paladin1991 on January 15, 2020, 08:07:21 AM
What?  Iran has 3 US embassies?
They like to keep a few extra, for terrorist exercises.  Practice makes perfect.



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