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POTUS Makes Good On Threat-U.S. Strike Kills Senior Iranian Commander Soleimani

Started by starrmtn001, January 02, 2020, 11:06:18 PM

Juan

Quote from: paladin1991 on January 04, 2020, 06:43:19 AM
ARE  YOU  FUCKING  WITH  MY  DOPE?
What got me is they don’t know half mast is only aboard a ship, Navy base, or Marine base.



starramus

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The motherfucker should be impeached a second time!

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-illegal-impeachable-act-of-war/


trailer park republicans, the stinker will end your misery with thermonuclear war!

AZZERAE

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 03, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
Hopefully the Ayatollahs and other fanatics realize they could just as easily be taken out if we opted to do so

Bullies.

starramus

"Hopefully the Ayatollahs and other fanatics realize they could just as easily be taken out if we opted to do so"

Will this end the alleged bromance between the McDonald, and Vladimir? trump's puny balls are hanging out in DC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Lm9fass4o

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/missile-proliferation/russia/avangard-hypersonic-glide-vehicle/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: starramus on January 04, 2020, 09:49:42 AM
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The motherfucker should be impeached a second time!

How did that first one work out? :D

Uncle Duke

Quote from: starramus on January 04, 2020, 10:09:18 AM
"Hopefully the Ayatollahs and other fanatics realize they could just as easily be taken out if we opted to do so"

Will this end the alleged bromance between the McDonald, and Vladimir? trump's puny balls are hanging out in DC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Lm9fass4o

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/missile-proliferation/russia/avangard-hypersonic-glide-vehicle/

I think the relationship between Iran and Russia is simply one of current convenience in Syria.  Putin is, at the end of the day, a pragmatist who isn't about to put strategic national interests above Iran in such situations.  Also keep in mind Muslim extremists, mostly Chechnyan, have committed horrific terrorist acts against Russia (Beslan and Dubrovka Theatre probably the best known), so Putin understands the problem of state sponsored terrorism.

Juan

Plus the Russians and Iranians are traditional - centuries - enemies.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 03, 2020, 11:32:41 AM
Surprised I haven't seen/heard a single accusation Trump's "waging the dog" to take away attention from the impeachment process.

What impeachment process?


Quote from: Juan on January 04, 2020, 08:37:01 AM
In 2006-8 I was very worried about the close relationship of Iran with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. Iran had financed building a Portland cement factory and a tractor parts factory there. Both could be covers for missile building. At the time, the missiles Iran had, fired from Caracas, could hit DC, Atlanta, Baltimore,  St. Louis, Dallas and points in between. And Caracas was far from the most northerly point in Venezuela- it’s the point I could easily find air miles for.  It would appear that relationship has soured since the death of Chavez, but I’m still wary.

Very interesting.  Thing is though, what's the difference if Russia and China's proxies have nukes, or if Russia and China have nuclear armed subs off the coast of the US?  Iran has had nukes for decades, but they require Russian technicians to maintain them.  Iran is occupied by Russia and they don't even realize it.  Russia won't allow Iran to use them.  Russia just takes the money to curate a military museum.  North Korea does nothing that China and Russia don't direct them to do, so same goes for them.

The United States is not oblivious to all of this, and has undoubtedly notified Russia and China that if any credible attack against the United States or it's allies is conducted by any of Russia and China's proxies, that Moscow and PeKing are toast.

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 03, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
I'd like to think there is a chance the Iranians will see this as a wake up call, much like Libya/Gaddafi after El Dorado Canyon.  Hopefully the Ayatollahs and other fanatics realize they could just as easily be taken out if we opted to do so and, as a result, start throttling back their provocations, if not their rhetoric. Not counting on it, but.....

I never did notice the case for attacking Libya made to the American people.  For that matter, Syria either.  Libya got busted and Muammar al-Qaddafi, fessed up.  He turned over the hardware, schematics, and nuclear materials, ratting out Pakistan for selling him Chinese designed missiles, same as North Korea's.

Bush II took Libya off the list of rouge nations and declared Libya an ally. So then why did O'bamass' Secretary Of State, Hilarity, kill Qaddafi?  I only recently learned that he had been holding back huge warehouses of Yellowcake.

Quote from: starramus on January 04, 2020, 10:09:18 AM
"Hopefully the Ayatollahs and other fanatics realize they could just as easily be taken out if we opted to do so"

Will this end the alleged bromance between the McDonald, and Vladimir? trump's puny balls are hanging out in DC!

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/missile-proliferation/russia/avangard-hypersonic-glide-vehicle/

Do you really believe that any first strike by any force will prevent successful retaliation?  Mutually Assured Destruction, remains alive and well.  Besides, the US Space Force is now public knowledge.




MV/Liberace!

Quote from: starramus on January 04, 2020, 10:09:18 AM
Will this end the alleged bromance between the McDonald, and Vladimir?

Will this nudge you toward considering the possibility there never was one?

Uncle Duke

Quote from: paladin1991 on January 04, 2020, 06:53:15 AM
Traitorous cunt.

Never underestimate the lengths to which faded, has-been entertainment personalities will go to get their names back in front of the public.  I'm surprised the Dixie Chicks haven't slithered out from under their rocks.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Stupid Robbings on January 04, 2020, 01:38:10 PM
I never did notice the case for attacking Libya made to the American people.  For that matter, Syria either.  Libya got busted and Muammar al-Qaddafi, fessed up.  He turned over the hardware, schematics, and nuclear materials, ratting out Pakistan for selling him Chinese designed missiles, same as North Korea's.

Bush II took Libya off the list of rouge nations and declared Libya an ally. So then why did O'bamass' Secretary Of State, Hilarity, kill Qaddafi?  I only recently learned that he had been holding back huge warehouses of Yellowcake.

That was the same bullshit they sold the Iraq war on. Your proof of this?

albrecht

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 04, 2020, 10:48:23 AM
I think the relationship between Iran and Russia is simply one of current convenience in Syria.  Putin is, at the end of the day, a pragmatist who isn't about to put strategic national interests above Iran in such situations.  Also keep in mind Muslim extremists, mostly Chechnyan, have committed horrific terrorist acts against Russia (Beslan and Dubrovka Theatre probably the best known), so Putin understands the problem of state sponsored terrorism.
Yes but the Iranian version of Islam is, for the most part, traditional terrorism- that is terrorism in furtherance of political or nation-state goals. Not as crazy or nihilistic as the terrorism on the Sunni side that is wide and desperate and sometimes seems terrorism just for terrorism's sake or to simply to export it so it doesn't happen at "home" (for example Saudi Arabia.) Iran also has a culture longer than Islam versus the Sand Arab countries and fake royals that only recently became rich and influential due to Anglo-American foreign policy and energy needs. Not saying Iran is good, of course.



Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 04, 2020, 02:28:25 PM
That was the same bullshit they sold the Iraq war on. Your proof of this?

Since you ask so politely:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8787721/Dumped-in-the-desert-...-Gaddafis-yellowcake-stockpile.html

Dumped in the desert ... Gaddafi’s yellowcake stockpile
Sitting in row after row, each 15 long by four high, the blue barrels are as frightening as any remnant of the Gaddafi regime.
Radioactive material found in a Gadaffi military base near Sabah
A rebel fighter among the yellowcake drums in the warehouse near the city of Sabha. The stockpile was abandoned and unguarded Photo: DAVID ROSE
Richard SpencerBy Richard Spencer, Sabha9:00PM BST 25 Sep 2011
Some are marked radioactive, as were the open plastic bags alongside.

The powder they contain appears to be yellowcake uranium from neighbouring Niger. Yet when they were discovered by advancing rebel forces last week, they were abandoned, in tumbledown warehouses protected only by a low wall.

Niger mines yellowcake under a strict security regime designed to ensure none of it falls into the hands of illicit networks. But post-Gaddafi Libya affords little or no protection to this vast haul of material, which if refined to high levels of purity is the essential element of a nuclear bomb.

The Daily Telegraph reported last week that Iran, which is pursuing underground nuclear programmes, had joined in the looting of Libyan weaponry.

Despite the dangers, international atomic agencies and Libya’s rebels say it will take weeks to put safeguards in place.

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There are at least 10,000 drums with a total capacity of two million litres, though most have not been opened and checked for their contents. They are being stored not far from the southern desert city of Sabha.

The International Atomic Energy Agency says it knew that Col Muammar Gaddafi had stockpiled yellowcake uranium near Sabha â€" a relic of the years when he tried to develop nuclear weapons after obtaining blueprints from the Pakistani scientist, AQ Khan.

“We can confirm that there is yellowcake stored in drums at a site near Sabha in central Libya,” a spokesman said. “The IAEA has tentatively scheduled safeguard activities at this location once the situation in the country stabilises.”

After agreeing to dismantle the programme in 2003, Gaddafi was supposed to have given up all his nuclear technology. He was also supposed to have given up chemical weapons, but it is known he still had mustard gas awaiting disposal.

A WikiLeaks cable disclosed that two years ago he was trying to sell 1,000 metric tons of yellowcake on the world market. No one expected such a valuable commodity to have been left dumped in the desert.

Sabha was an important stronghold for Gaddafi, who spent part of his youth here, and many of the locals are from the Gaddafi tribe. Abdullah Senussi, his security chief, right-hand man and brother-in-law, is from a town 50 miles to the north.

But the city was only lightly defended. A total of 12 rebels died in the fighting, with just one or two parts of the town resisting at all.

Having driven out the remnants of the Gaddafi forces towards the Algerian border, the rebel troops said they were ordered to secure former military bases â€" a standard practice adopted belatedly to stop weapons stockpiles going missing.

They found the storage facility containing the radioactive drums totally unguarded. “I don’t think it’s ever been guarded,” said Musbah al-Mangoush, an agricultural engineer from the town who escaped Gaddafi’s grip three months ago and returned at the head of a brigade of troops from Benghazi.

“This was a military base until the 1990s, but then it was abandoned. There was no one here.”

In neighbouring sheds are rusting trucks, old fuel tanks, and surface-to-air missiles covered in pigeon droppings.

It is not clear how long the material has been there. Mohammed Othman, whose family owns a farm five miles further up the track away from Sabha, says soldiers were seen unloading trucks in the area a year ago. Mr Mangoush, on the other hand, links the find to what he claims is a high level of miscarriage and deformity in babies in the area, suggesting a longer term presence.

Mustafa Abdul Jalil, the president of the provisional government, the National Transitional Council, said at a press conference on Sunday that a second find of illegal material had been made near the town of Waddan â€" believed to be mustard gas. “There are weapons believed to be internationally forbidden, and they are under our control,” he said.

The United States previously said that Gaddafi’s yellowcake stocks were held at the town of Tajoura east of Tripoli and were “secure”.

The real site is now guarded by half a dozen rebel troops.

Fighting has moved on to the border town of Ghat, leaving virtually all the south of Libya, with its important oilfields, in the hands of the rebels.

Of Gaddafi himself, there is now no sign.

“Tell us if you find him,” is the commonest response to questions concerning his whereabouts.


http://web.archive.org/web/20111110075802/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8787721/Dumped-in-the-desert-...-Gaddafis-yellowcake-stockpile.html

Ryan Mauro interviewed by Jamie Glazov for Front Page Magazine reported evidence of Russia moving Saddam's WMDs to Bekaa Valley of Syrian occupied Lebanon.  I'm searching for the article.
https://ryanmauro.com


starramus

Quote from: Liberace! on January 04, 2020, 02:06:58 PM
Will this nudge you toward considering the possibility there never was one?

Vladimir plays chess. The McDonald fails at checkers. Utterly incompatible!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: starramus on January 04, 2020, 03:23:58 PM
Vladimir plays chess. The McDonald fails at checkers. Utterly incompatible!

So you’re a fan of Putin. Bromance detected.

starramus

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 04, 2020, 10:48:23 AM
I think the relationship between Iran and Russia is simply one of current convenience in Syria.  Putin is, at the end of the day, a pragmatist who isn't about to put strategic national interests above Iran in such situations.  Also keep in mind Muslim extremists, mostly Chechnyan, have committed horrific terrorist acts against Russia (Beslan and Dubrovka Theatre probably the best known), so Putin understands the problem of state sponsored terrorism.

Putin is a pragmatist especially about the NATO bases surrounding his country. The "buck" has to stop somewhere. amerikkka's number one export is death, and the country is inarguably  a threat to peace, and any kind of stability. "State sponsored terrorism", you make me laugh!

albrecht


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Ex-CIA (is there such a thing) and Vanderbilt (family not school they founded) Cooper compares dead Soleimani to Charles DeGaulle! 

https://youtu.be/JjyytnMnkJQ



starramus

After Mossad Targeted Soleimani trump only Pulled the Trigger 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/after-mossad-targeted-soleimani-trump-pulled-the-trigger/


After Mossad Targeted Soleimani, Trump Pulled the Trigger
by Jefferson Morley
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Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini and Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani, right (Credit: Wikimedia Commons).

Last October Yossi Cohen, head of Israel’s Mossad, spoke openly about assassinating Iranian general Qassem Soleimani, the head of the elite Quds Force in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

“He knows very well that his assassination is not impossible,” Cohen said in an interview. Soleimani had boasted that the Israel’s tried to assassinate him in 2006 and failed.

“With all due respect to his bluster,” Cohen said, “he hasn’t necessarily committed the mistake yet that would place him on the prestigious list of Mossad’s assassination targets.”

“Is Israel Targeting Iran’s Top General for Assassination?” I asked on October 24. On Thursday, Soleimani was killed in an air strike ordered by President Trump.

Soleimani’s convoy was struck by U.S. missiles as he left a meeting at Baghdad’s airport amid anti-Iranian and anti-American demonstrations in Iraq. Supporters of an Iranian-backed militia had agreed to withdraw from the U.S. diplomatic compound in return for a promise that the government would allow a parliamentary vote on expelling 5,000 U.S. troops from the country.

The Pentagon confirmed the military operation, which came “at the direction of the president” and was “aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans.” The Pentagon claimed in a statement that Gen. Soleimani was “actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.”

Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, under indictment for criminal charges, was the first and only national leader to support Trump’s action, while claiming that that Trump acted entirely on his own.

“Just as Israel has the right to self-defense, the United States has exactly the same right,” Netanyahu told reporters in Greece. “Qassem Soleimani is responsible for the deaths of American citizens and other innocents, and he was planning more attacks.”

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani vowed retaliation for the general’s death,  tweeting that “Iran will take revenge for this heinous crime.”

Capable Foe

Soleimani was the most capable foe of the United States and Israel in the region. As chief of the Al-Quds force, Soleimani was a master of Iran’s asymmetric warfare strategy, using proxy forces to bleed Iran’s enemies, while preserving the government’s ability to plausibly deny involvement.

After the U.S. invasions of Iraq, he funded and trained anti-American militias that launched low-level attacks on U.S. occupation forces, killing upward of 600 U.S. servicemen and generating pressure for U.S. withdrawal.

In recent years, Soleimani led two successful Iranian military operations: the campaign to drive ISIS out of western Iraq in 2015 and the campaign to crush the jihadist forces opposed to Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. The United States and Israel denounced Iran’s role in both operations but could not prevent Iran from claiming victory.

Soleimani had assumed a leading role in Iraqi politics in the past year. The anti-ISIS campaign relied on Iraqi militias, which the Iranians supported with money, weapons, and training. After ISIS was defeated, these militia maintained a prominent role in Iraq that many resented, leading to demonstrations and rioting. Soleimani was seeking to stabilize the government and channel the protests against the United States when he was killed.

In the same period, Israel pursued its program of targeted assassination. In the past decade Mossad assassinated at least five Iranian nuclear scientists, according to Israeli journalist Ronen Bergman, in an effort to thwart Iran’s nuclear program. Yossi Melman, another Israeli journalist, says that Mossad has assassinated 60-70 enemies outside of its borders since its founding in 1947, though none as prominent as Soleimani.

Israel also began striking at the Iranian-backed militias in Iraq last year. The United States did the same on December 29, killing 19 fighters and prompting anti-American demonstrations as big as the anti-Iranian demonstrations of a month ago.

Now the killing of Soleimani promises more unrest, if not open war. The idea that it will deter Iranian attacks is foolish.

“This doesn’t mean war,” wrote former Defense Department official Andrew Exum, “It will not lead to war, and it doesn’t risk war. None of that. It is war.“​

The Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida reported a year ago that Washington had given Israel the green light to assassinate Soleimani. Al-Jarida, which in recent years has broken exclusive stories from Israel, quoted a source in Jerusalem as saying that “there is an American-Israeli agreement” that Soleimani is a “threat to the two countries’ interests in the region.” It is generally assumed in the Arab world that the paper is used as an Israeli platform for conveying messages to other countries in the Middle East.

Trump has now fulfilled the wishes of Mossad. After proclaiming his intention to end America’s “stupid endless wars,” the president has effectively declared war on the largest country in the region in solidarity with Israel, the most unpopular country in the Middle East.

This article first appeared on Jefferson Morley’s TheDeepStateBlog.
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Quote from: starramus on January 04, 2020, 04:31:00 PM
After Mossad Targeted Soleimani trump only Pulled the Trigger 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/after-mossad-targeted-soleimani-trump-pulled-the-trigger/

If this is true, then HOORAY for both, Trump and Bibi!!!

'He who blesses Israel shall be blessed, and he who curses Israel shall be cursed'
--Genesis

Asuka Langley

Quote from: Stupid Robbings on January 04, 2020, 05:01:52 PM

'He who blesses Israel shall be blessed, and he who curses Israel shall be cursed'
--Genesis

"Fuck Israel, nuke it off the map"
-- Asuka Langley





albrecht

Quote from: Asuka Langley on January 04, 2020, 05:19:21 PM
"Fuck Israel, nuke it off the map"
-- Asuka Langley


Is that Reese Witherspoon? Setting a trashcan fire inside the garage is a risky move. As is burning that particular flag if one wants to continue a Hollywood career.



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