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US Surveillance Drone Shot Down by Iran

Started by Uncle Duke, June 20, 2019, 10:12:05 AM

Uncle Duke

BBC News - Strait of Hormuz: US confirms drone shot down by Iran
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48700965

A USN drone?  Could have been gathering target intel for a strike on Revolutionary Guard fast boat units involved in planting limpet mines on tankers.

As a minimum, cruise missile strike in the next few days?



Kidnostad3

Quote from: Uncle Duke on June 20, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
BBC News - Strait of Hormuz: US confirms drone shot down by Iran
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48700965

A USN drone?  Could have been gathering target intel for a strike on Revolutionary Guard fast boat units involved in planting limpet mines on tankers.

As a minimum, cruise missile strike in the next few days?

Agree.  Trump expressed the belief that a local commander may have been responsible and it may not have been done with the approval of the Ayatollahs; however, the higher-ups are responsible for creating the circumstances under which an unprovoked shootdown could occurr.  There will be a kinetic response but I don't think it will be anything crippling. 

Jackstar

Quote from: Uncle Duke on June 20, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Revolutionary Guard fast boat units involved in planting limpet mines on tankers




Quote from: Uncle Duke on June 20, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
cruise missile strike in the next few days?


Juan

So, Nervous Nancy is attending a briefing on the drone shoot down and possible responses, but she leaves before it’s over to go to an event to promote gun grabbing. Despicable.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: username on June 20, 2019, 03:40:13 PM
This is the new cold war.

Really? How do you figure? Cold usually implies no military action.

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on June 20, 2019, 12:12:50 PM
Agree.  Trump expressed the belief that a local commander may have been responsible and it may not have been done with the approval of the Ayatollahs; however, the higher-ups are responsible for creating the circumstances under which an unprovoked shootdown could occurr.  There will be a kinetic response but I don't think it will be anything crippling.

BBC News - US-Iran: Trump says military was 'cocked and loaded' to retaliate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48714414

Sounds like cruise missiles strikes against three sites were in the offing, but cancelled ten minutes before being launched. Will be interesting to see how that's read in Tehran, as a sign of good faith or as weakness.

ItsOver

Interesting that a strike was supposedly first on and then cancelled by the President after he asked about an expected death toll and was supposedly told about 150.

"...On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone...."

I would have thought it would have been SOP for the military to provide that upfront as part of an expected damage projection. Why did the President have to pointedly ask a General about the expected death toll?  I can understand trying to get closer to a "tit-for-tat" response, since it was a drone that was brought down, and not a manned aircraft.


Juan

There are other things that can be done. Trump meets Xi soon. Maybe make it more difficult for China to get Iranian oil, thus strangling two birds at once?


starramus

amerikkka's fake president presiding over a multitude of fake news outlets has lied about the whereabouts of the shot down drone. It was in Iranian air space. You stooges of the evil empire will have to look beyond your borders if you want something other than fake news. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201906251076042588-russian-military-info-downed-us-drone-iranian-airspace/
https://www.rt.com/news/462936-iran-complaint-un-airspace-drone/   RT for the real news from Moscow! www.rt.com/live

Asuka Langley

Quote from: starramus on July 15, 2019, 08:11:00 PM
amerikkka's fake president presiding over a multitude of fake news outlets has lied about the whereabouts of the shot down drone. It was in Iranian air space. You stooges of the evil empire will have to look beyond your borders if you want something other than fake news. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201906251076042588-russian-military-info-downed-us-drone-iranian-airspace/
https://www.rt.com/news/462936-iran-complaint-un-airspace-drone/   RT for the real news from Moscow! www.rt.com/live

Cheeki Breeki


Kidnostad3

Quote from: starramus on July 15, 2019, 08:11:00 PM
amerikkka's fake president presiding over a multitude of fake news outlets has lied about the whereabouts of the shot down drone. It was in Iranian air space. You stooges of the evil empire will have to look beyond your borders if you want something other than fake news. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201906251076042588-russian-military-info-downed-us-drone-iranian-airspace/
https://www.rt.com/news/462936-iran-complaint-un-airspace-drone/   RT for the rea from Moscow! www.rt.com/live

Seriously?  Are you really citing horse shit churned out by Kremlin sponsored propaganda mills?  Suspicion confirmed--you are either a paid Russian troll or a useful idiot working for nothing. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Russian_Federation

"Shortly after the Beslan school hostage crisis in September 2004, Putin enhanced a Kremlin-sponsored program aimed at "improving Russia's image" abroad.[5] One of the major projects of the program was the creation in 2005 of Russia Today (now known as RT) an English language TV news channel providing 24-hour news coverage. Towards its start-up budget, $30 million of public funds were allocated.[6][7] A CBS News story on the launch of Russia Today quoted Boris Kagarlitsky as saying it was "very much a continuation of the old Soviet propaganda services".[8]"

WOTR

Quote from: Kizuna Ai on July 15, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
Cheeki Breeki



Thanks. You win "most disturbing picture" of the day.

The revulsion is in the details.


Uncle Duke

Quote from: albrecht on July 18, 2019, 03:30:53 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-seizes-foreign-tanker-it-accuses-of-smuggling-fuel-11563449352

Strange story.  How did a drone get to within a 1000 yds of a Gator, and why did the Boxer shoot it down as opposed to one of the escorts?  Will be interesting to hear how it was shot down.  MANPAD, maybe a Phalanx?

albrecht

Quote from: Uncle Duke on July 18, 2019, 03:48:21 PM
Strange story.  How did a drone get to within a 1000 yds of a Gator, and why did the Boxer shoot it down as opposed to one of the escorts?  Will be interesting to hear how it was shot down.  MANPAD, maybe a Phalanx?
According to article (that will disappear behind a paywall if not a subscriber after viewing once,) emphasis mine:   

"Officials would not specify the action taken, but one official said it was an electronic measure." 

Not sure what system or what that entails. It also seems incongruous with the term "shot down," (if electronic hacking/laser/scrambling/EMP like CHAMP etc I would say "brought down.")   

example: 

http://mil-embedded.com/news/raytheon-emp-missile-tested-by-boeing-usaf-research-lab/



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