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Grenfell Tower Fire

Started by albrecht, June 15, 2017, 11:01:15 AM

albrecht

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40272168
What a horrible event and I'm sure lots of investigations will be done. It seemed to have gone up so quick. I heard one theory that a retro-fitting of some "green" environmental panelling to help retain heat in winter was a major source of the quick spread. Also residents, many of whom are "refugees" and Muslim, allegedly previously complained about lack of safety features, hard to get emergency vehicles to the area, lack of inspection of fire doors and extinquishers, no (or inadequate) sprinkler systems, and etc.
Also, instructions were to "stay in your flat" if a fire occured which due to the rapid spread seems, in hindsight, not the best advice.  As bad as it was from the videos of the fire it is amazing that more people weren't killed.

So far I've heard no information on the original source of the fire and, oddly, but I guess the GOP baseball team shooting has taken over news, I haven't heard any "conspiracy theories" about the fire from the usual folks.

akwilly

The last I heard the fire was started on the 4th floor due to faulty wiring in a refrigerator

Taaroa

I've seen people trying to blame rich people for the cladding because 'it was done to improve the aesthetics for rich neighbours'.

In London there is a law which requires a certain amount of housing in each suburb to be public housing (often they're these types of tower), even for the wealthy/posh ones. People keep bringing up Kensington specifically because it is a very wealthy area with a lot of oligarchs and rich arabs living in it, while North Kensington (where the fire was) isn't. Any wealth divide between the two shouldn't be relevant at all in this situation because the areas are relatively far apart from each other, and the public housing law applies everywhere in the city.

Just seems like good ol' fashioned 'blame the rich for everything' scapegoating.

https://www.gizmodo.com/2017/06/how-rich-neighbours-may-have-factored-into-londons-deadly-tower-fire/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grenfell-tower-tale-two-kensingtons-borough-extreme-rich-poor_uk_594269e9e4b003d5948d5116

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/06/14/what-the-grenfell-tower-fire-tells-us-about-londons-housing-crisis/


starrmtn001

LIVE: Protests Erupt in Kessington Section of London over Grenfeld Tower.  6.16.17.

https://youtu.be/OSAoD-8lMNk

paladin1991

Quote from: BobGrau on June 16, 2017, 10:28:56 AM
Yeah, fuck em.

Standard Marine Corps response.

"Chow hall is gonna be closed when we get back."    Yeah, fuck em.

"Helos can't make it in due to heavy fire."                 Yeah, fuck em.

"Haji is on fire fm the Willy Pete."                            Yeah, fuck em.

"Lt. says he can't find our position."                          Yeah, fuck em.


I could go on but I'm going to watch the movie, "Goon."

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