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Well, it looks like long suffering Cryptid enthusiasts everywhere will be in ecstasy tonight!

Washington DC

It's been confirmed that CBS, CNBC, NBC, ABC and various other news agencies will be interrupting broadcasts tonight to reveal a shocking story featuring confirmed scientific evidence and even the United States Government admitting finally to the existence of a long thought mythical species, commonly known by several monikers such as Bigfoot, Sasquatch, or Yeti.

The species will be re-named Ketchumpithecus, after Dr Melba S. Ketchum who will now be credited with publicly proving the species existence. Apparently a deal was quickly brokered for the naming with the authorities, in trade for Dr. Ketchum allowing the government to make the initial press release, and attempt to save face.

The National Security Council http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/nsc held a private press conference at The Pentagon earlier today admitting the overwhelming evidence forced their hands. Dr. Ketchum apparently convinced several independent scientific labs to check her findings, and the results were unanimously verified this morning. She used multiple prestigious groups all at once so that in her words, "it would be nearly impossible for misinformation spreaders to attempt to discredit them all en-mass" The tactic worked apparently, and the government coverup fell apart.

Reports filtering in describe a press conference in disarray, with the audience at first thinking it had to be some sort of gag. But after a short while the reporters realized they were indeed witnessing a historic 'game changing' moment in history. The revelation that the species exists, and the government has been cautiously aware of them for some time. They sited several reasons for trying to "keep a lid" on their existence. Public safety and panic were chief among those given. At this same briefing they revealed they had several bodies in their possession. As anyone can imagine the press crowd was reportedly  whipped into a frenzy by the time questions were allowed. An unidentified spokesman stating only that he was in charge, explained that hunters had indeed occasionally shot one which was often sited as anti-evidence as to their existence, that no credible hunter had ever came forward. He offered that when they did, they were put under tremendous pressure not to talk. Amidst the crowds yelling hundreds of questions the questioning was cut short, and the reporters were told that as a matter of National Security they were not to come forward until the designated time, which is approximately 10:00 PM eastern tonight. They were all given lengthy packets of information.

Dr Ketchum said "I am relieved to be vindicated!" also stating near the end she even began to fear for her life, as the government realized the end was nigh on keeping this "under wraps". She told about her website being taken down, and as of this time, the site is still down http://dnadiagnostics.com/ under some presumably false page saying the site is being reconstructed.

The President is preparing a brief speech to try to allay fears and panic, and after that the news agencies will be able to air their coverage.

So why am I revealing this here now ? Well because nobody is going to believe it's true until after tonight anyway. So I thought you guys deserved a heads up.

We haven't had time to get reaction from several Bigfoot researchers, as this all came about right out of the blue. But were able to contact James Fay, commonly known as Bobo of Finding Bigfoot fame. He was ecstatic and proclaimed "victory is so sweet, man!" Obviously somewhat emotional, his voice was at times shaky, and hoarse.

You can listen to his interview here: http://bringvictory.com/

I just got done reading her CV...The Hugh O'brian Award, or HOBY is an award given out to high school sophomores..ummm 9000 of them, yearly..she's listing an award she got in high school some 35 years ago! She's claiming it was for acting, it's kind of like T-ball, you participate, you get a trophy.

http://www.hoby.org/about-alumni

Howard Stern used to love getting airhead hot chicks on his show. He'd let them talk and talk at first, building up an angry audience , and interview them about how all their friends thought everything that came out of their mouth was profound. Then he'd turn tables on them and say "it's because they listen to you with their penises hunny!", "my audience can't see you, so all they hear is your incessant babbling through their ears instead" Those were great episodes of his show. Thanks for the memories George! Cause you definitely found one of those chicks tonight!

Does Noory have any clue whatsoever about how utterly monstrous this woman sounds making disaster predictions and then breaking into fits of giggling?

The beer comments:I suppose one could make the same assumptions about modern current computers. How did they get so advanced, so quickly?

A couple of brainy guys raided a primitive computing corporations dumpsters and found uses for their refuse that the owners didn't.

As others used the new advancements, they added their tweaks, and bells and whistles.

Using his leaps in hypothesis, aliens must have helped Bill Gates and Steve Jobs because there's no way they went from being so primitive to so sophisticated virtually overnight(on the time scale) without otherworldly intervention.

He completely misses the motivational factor..people love getting high!

Once one person got high and really, really enjoyed it, they immediately thought, hey, I'll bet Qrogg over in that cave on the far side of the valley would trade me a few Elks for some of this stuff! Maybe even a couple of his women!

Qrogg did enjoy getting drunk/high, but also decided to watch Tug to see how he was getting this stuff, because Elks and women didn't grow on trees!

In recent weeks the show has suddenly been pleading for money for guests. It's starting to sound exactly like Jimmy Swaggert, or Jim Baker appeals for funding. Give what you can!

But the other night, when they did the Leir plea, and allowed that hack to beg it all the it all the way to $10,000...unconscionable.

The guy was pursuing what he wanted to. If a surgical DR finds himself in financial straights, from losing credibility in a real profession, that's on him. Not on little green men. I seriously doubt he and his family were truly broke. Show us a tax return! Ohh not going to do that, just like he refused to share his "evidence"?

They have turned this show into a Paranormal PTL club.

And the UFO community, their loyal cult members.

As far as selling a Pinball Machine on Ebay goes...

Most of the stuff that size on Ebay sells to people within a few hundred miles who come pick it up, and want to inspect it firsthand themselves anyway. Any type of electronic collectible. There are alternate shipping methods too. Rail, large item shippers. Rail is really cheap, people aren't going to ship a pinball machine UPS. They're handling of anything delicate is awful! They just recently broke a vintage sowing machine I had THEM PACK! It was literally broken in half! It was made out of metal. $890 refund!!

I had a guy drive to my house in New York from way up in Northern Canada to inspect and pay me in cash for a vintage radio once. It was over $4000, and I had a 100% feedback ratio, but rightly so he wanted to inspect it firsthand, anyway. He had, had too many shipping nightmares.

Area51 I wish you'd reply to the board, instead of me specifically.

But anywho...you yourself in your post to me outline where the real money is in the Pinball collecting, Maintenance fees!  It's a hole in the ground you dump money into. $100 an hour to fix them. You didn't mention parts. Hunting down parts, shipping

My family owned 2 arcades! I'm intimately aware of the overhead on maintaining working models...

Just like any collectible, there are winners in even a dead field. Heck there's still Beanie Babies worth $100's of dollars...the other 99% are sitting in free boxes at the end of driveways. But there's a few people still want.

Of course there's hot Pinball Machines. There's also 20 pages of COMPLETED AUCTIONS on Ebay that hardly had any sell. And by hardly I'm talking 1-2%. You know who made a ton of money off those listings? Ebay, themselves in listing fees, that's who!

A $1900.00 doll is also a rarity in the doll market. I just acquired a bunch of dolls cleaning out the estate of OLD doll collectors. By old, I mean these people had gone to doll shows back in the 70's! I knew I was sitting on some good ones but I don't know dolls. I offered the bunch for $1000. Got contacted by several doll "dealers" who browbeat the piss out of the collection...I had a woman offer me $100 for them all, nit picking everything for an hour and getting angry that I wouldn't take her offer. I literally had to throw her out.

I ran them through a local auction...holy cripes! First off, there were 50 "left bids", then entire group sold for over $8000. Several of the dolls went for over $1000 by themselves. The worse part? The woman who offered the $100, was a major player on bidding on several of those dolls.

Why am I telling you this? To illustrate most of the "dealers" in this field are trying to steal everything! Impress you with their BS and tell you you have nothing. It kills them to pay YOU directly any kind of money.

It's the same in many collectible fields. Fishing lure guys, tool guys, doll ladies, Christmas dealers, in their hands it's the lost Ark of the covenant, in your hands it's stinky diapers.

Where as there are people that collect Pinball Machines, it's a pretty specialized field, with specific models being sought after. And even when a person does discover grandpa stuck one of these under a tarp in the back of his garage... http://www.pinballrebel.com/game/pins/kiss/kiss_pinball.html, he'd better get ready for a slew of scumbags trying to browbeat the hell out of him to get it for pennies on the dollar. He'll hear everything from
"it's a really down market", "don't sell like they used to", "So expensive, I might have it for a long time, thus I can only pay.." that last ones my favorite!

You'll meet a bunch of dealers who will suddenly be declaring how dead the field is. It is, but not for a highly desirable one, like the Kiss pinball machine.

  Hardly a hot collectible, like vintage clothing. Which 100,000's of  people can afford to collect.

At 1:43 the cop standing next to Bill is my former roommate, lorne. lol

The only people promoting pinball machines as a hot collectible are people who own them and are trying to sell them. Try selling these guys yours, and it'll suddenly be a dead horse they can only pay you salvage fees for.

Every time those two clowns on American Pickers "find" a warehouse full of them, notice how they buy just one?

If there's money to be made, I'm buying the entire load!

Quote from: EBE123 on February 19, 2014, 09:29:07 AM
How come callers like Jeff in Culver City and Savant in Kansas City always get on air, while so many other callers try for years and never get through?

You're falling under the assumption that they really want to take cold call ins. I'd estimate that at least half of Coasts call ins are shill call ins.

He explained the other day that he doesn't announce who will be on the show. It was really interesting to listen to him dance around with his explanation about this. Who can't figure out that it's because he doesn't want Coast's production team calling the guest up and trying to discourage the guest, by threatening to not book them, if they go on CTM?

Episode 7

"Now I've tried to be diplomatic, and I think maybe you've appreciated that and I will continue to be as diplomatic as I am allowed to be"

I don't know about you, but it reminded me of Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan. "He vexes me"

I smell a full on, on air rant coming in the near future.

Dark Clauses Matter (as I) Coast Somewhere this Time.

Tonight's second half totally bogus talking in circles guest, and Bart Ehrman calls up.

That would be awesome.

I give the guest 2 minutes before he'd hang up.

That how quickly Erhman would nuke him with non disputed facts this guys is getting wrong.

It comes off like somebody trying to make up things as he's doing the interview. Noory keep's trying to lob him softballs, and he keeps say "Wow, that's a difficulty question, I wasn't prepared"

Even Noory, who usually happily acts like he's eating it up is sounding annoyed.

New drinking game, every time he says "before I get to the 666" you take a half sip of a beer. Have a 30 pack on standby.

When I went to check on thiws guy all I could find was HIM, HIMSELF claiming "honorary" credentials.

I firmly believe a radio show exists that disguises itself as an alternative talk radio show, but in reality is really just a QVC for selling stuff.

"we're going to take a call from Margie now"
Hi George, I want you to know I bought Carnivora and it cured my Herpes, gonorrhea, cancer, meth addiction, and removed an alien implant!"
Fascinating, thanks for calling in Margie! You shouldn't miss out on a minute of Coast, have you joined the Coast insider yet? With our fantastic TV show, beeeeeyond belief.

Art Bell is an interesting character.

I listened to every episode of Dark Matter. I have every episode. I even started corresponding with Art. He, to my shock, returned my emails. I have had several discussions on air about a few subjects I knew something about with C2C guests and their topics. On air the guests seemed very interested and asked me to contact them twice private contact info. When I did they never responded back.

I figured out most of these people are appearing on C2C to sell something. Not to find out more, or solve anything. To be honest, if you think about it, solving something will end interest in it. The Mystery continuing is the gold mine, the answer would tap out the mine. Let's take Big foot for example. There is no reality show called Finding Gorillas for a reason! They've been found. There is a woman whose been living with them forever, and she's the one attached to them. No Bobo, or Ranea or Cliff, or Matt Moneymaker are needed. Anytime they do something documentary TV or movie wise with Gorillas, they consult the lone expert. The respected authority. They don't interview a hundred characters, doing their Crocodile Dundee impersonation, they interview her.

Investigating Paranormal, conspiracies is big business. There's a lot of money in this! Look at vast array of websites. Many of them into their tenth book and beyond.

A hot topic right now is Psychopaths. The only problem is, there's already a ton of research into them. Most of these people appearing as guests are simply taking the work of actual researchers and putting a spin on it for their own profit. They aren't interested in actually researching anything but their next book. Which they'll compile by simply reading everything they can issued by real researchers. Picking favorite items, and embellishing them. None of them are going to care to investigate your cousin Ned, no matter how much proof you provide he's killed hundreds. They'll let an actual PHD find you, investigate and then write a book about that persons research, Coast won't be interviewing you, they'll be interviewing the guy YOU tried to contact. He'll most likely act like he tried, but could never get a hold of you. This has happened a ton of times on a myriad of subjects, where a key person actually called Coast having never met the author who wrote about THEIR story.

Without Art Bell starting things off, there's a good chance all these TV shows wouldn't be on the air. But unlike Noory, he presents a problem. He wants facts. He wants proof. He's skeptical. He wants discussion and answers. Noory will have a guest on about how humans poop is actually the body expelling aliens, and Noory will act like he agrees with the person for 2.25 hours, the other 1.75 hours devoted to selling Carnivora.

Bell's Dark Matter was different. He had Richard C Hoagland on and laughed at a bunch of his pictures and said they showed nothing. He only accepted one as interesting. Noory would SAY he thought every picture was profound, and interesting.

A striking contrast was during near the end of Dark matter where Bell actually kicked a guest off early, because he wasn't giving any information other than "it's in my book", at the same time Coast had a guest on who did nothing but say "You'll have to buy my book" and the guest was on all night.

Dark Matter went off the air for several reasons.

Technical problems : 90 minute time outs. Problems getting the show. People calling in on cell phones. The cell phone problem wasn't going to go away, as few people keep a land line anymore
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Concern: Bell didn't like the idea in the last few weeks most of his listeners were listening and calling in while driving. His last few shows he'd ask what they were doing, and the most common answer was driving truck over the road.

Pressure from Coast on appearances: The Ghost Buster Gals actually admitted they were told us or them, not both. Other guests told of this, too.

Bells obsession with sound quality: Constant

Bell signing another non compete: He actually did, and now has found Sirius considers internet streaming competing with them, since they half ass offer the same.

IMO Bell is the far better interviewer. The best product doesn't always win. Bets vrs VHS, Harley vrs Excellsior. In America the cheaper, more profitable version often wins out.

Bigfoot Files S01 E02 American Sasquatch 720p HDTV

The first thing you'll notice is he's changed his shooting story so that now his feet are on the ground, on the show, he's fully in the vehicle. I assume the legalities of that were pointed out to him, thus him NOW making a point of stating he put his foot on the ground.

Second thing I want to point out, Notice how this Darkness Dave almost plagiarizes the interviewer of Big Foot Files? Coincidence? George himself says there aren't any. Yet Darkness Dave acted like he vaguely heard of some other documentary from the UK....LIAR! Probably had it queued up on a monitor.

There's no mention of him thinking it was a guy in a suit. It goes from Bear to monster. Now he's spending 15 minutes in the beginning shocking listeners by suggesting he thought it could be a guy in a suit and shooting anyway. In the old interview he makes no mention of his buddy not wanting him to shoot.

"Looking back I would have gone for my camera" Not a cell phone, he's suggesting they actually have a camera with them! What's he say now, about a year later?

Justin gives them hair and his boots, the hair is black bear. The boots don't have any blood on them. They were thoroughly examined by the National Fish and Wildlife Forensics Laboratory in Oregon. 

Which should end this, right?

So why a new documentary?  Why are they still talking about the boots? Why are they on Coast? Justin claims there's nothing to gain by a hoax. Really Justin? No regular spot on the new show? No new documentary?

They almost act like they believe people will never see the Bigfoot files show...this one...


Bigfoot Files S01 E02 American Sasquatch 720p HDTV

These guys aren't just a debunker show, either. Watch all three episodes and you'll be shocked at what strange unforseen conclusion they come up with for Yeti's!

The incredible hard hitting questions guests get on C2C!

"Every day there's less people alive who were alive when Kennedy's was assassinated, right?"

That just blew my mind!

Quote from: onan on September 11, 2012, 05:47:54 AM
I was gonna let this go being a late night argument, the day before I head to the beach.

I apologize for the misquote from the woman... it was late and i misread. I didn't mean to lie... I don't wear a halo.
Ohhh you ain't no angel!


I didn't try to change the argument. You posted you counseled... you posted about Ritalin and you were wrong. You still are wrong. But do what you want.


I'll tell you, I posted an entire websites devotion to  the problems with that drug. You quoted from another website, that also mentioned problems, but you altered the quote to make it look pro! And you admit it! It's utterly amazing. YOU validated my points and still called me wrong. 
Impulsivity..check
Inability to admit wrong..check.
Here's a compliment, you're very smart and well read. Which makes it all the more chilling, that somebody this smart is all about playing this little game. You know what I'm implying?
BTW are you aware you use a term to imply low intelligence on somebody in over 1000 of your posts?
Feelings of Superiority..check
Callousness..check

I am however tired of your insults. So to set the record straight, I am a psychiatric nurse. I have treated and observed thousands of patients some of them prescribed Ritalin, I have yet to see a psychotic break from Ritalin.

Pathological lying..check!!!!!!

Yes let's! You are subtly lying again. You are a FPN, not a PNHN. There's a world of difference. The reason you are trying to make the subtle distinction here is it sounds better in this case. A PNHN works with mental patients constantly, in a mental health environment. A FPN triage's people incarcerated in domestic disputes, usually the assailant, in the jail. They have similar backgrounds, but an FPN would not be as familiar with mental illness as a PNHN thus the reason you are trying to sneak this one past. It makes you sound more authoritative on mental health knowledge .

FPN's are a fairly recent addition into this system. Before the creation of this nursing classification the duties were split between a regular triage nurse, and deputies. Which worked fairly well except for one thing. The nurse usually visited the person and quickly triaged them, and the deputy did all the observing. DA's figured out a suspect was much more likely to speak openly to a nurse. While not realizing a nurse can testify against them. So you create a position in the prison where a nurse spends more time with the person, maybe they'll get more information out of the suspect to aid persecution. This nurse, not technically involved in law enforcement, can testify to anything they hear, see. So what am I saying? It has little to do with nursing other than first aid, and lot more to do with evidence gathering...in other words...a snitch! You observe, you make your determinations, you write notes and hand them into the DA. A perfect job for somebody who loves to manipulate!
Of course you'll respond it's just a harmless little semantics. It's literally asking somebody what do they do for a living folks,and them saying Bus driver, and then you find out they're a cab driver...why did you say Bus..."well it's close, they're both yellow"..but a bus is forty foot long? "ummmm they both have engines?"
See what I'm saying..has to lie, even a little, and then deny it...it trips them up constantly, thank god!
Manipulative..check

I am quite aware of side effects. I have to know them for every medicine I administer.


Again a little bit of the ol fudgery and I'll explain why typically they would want this person as straight as possible during this evaluation process, and this persons job of FPN does not call for them to come back and administer Meds later. So they hardly ever administer anything above aspirin or Tylenol.
If you're quite aware of the side effects then why did you make a fake quote post saying there weren't any? Because you're used to lying all the time and getting away with it.

I have been a psychiatric nurse for over a decade.


Interesting, not only are you not a PNHN, but your time frame would make you practically the Neil Armstrong of your true profession. You gotta tone down the bragging in every aspect about yourself.
Grandios self worth...check.

I have cared for over well over 10,000 patients in that time. How many have you cared for? As to you would not "let my fuckin kid have that... are you aware of the side effects of nitrous oxide? Would you let your child have that?


Tries to turn anything back around on people..passing back the blame..guilting...check

Again, the profession calls for a bunch of court time. The evaluation process of a single patient/prisoner after cleaning them up, having that supportive friendly conversation with them trying to get them to open up, and the observation period tends to run 3-4 hours.
You said you were done with me yet you continued.


Yeah, I consider blatantly offering false information on the net by a person in the medical field kinda bad, that needs to be fought.This isn't arguments like feeling and such,this is fucking facts vrs bullshit.

And you did so with a bunch of name calling. To that... fuck you and the bl
owhole you call a mouth.

The blame game..check
I read a bunch of your posts after getting very concerned at your alpha C2C poster attitude wherein it seemed you could be confronted with the gun, the bloody shirt, the finger print evidence, the video surveillance, and you'd still swear you were right. I only know of one human social animal that takes it this far without retreating Their ego just will not allow them to.  They try any manipulation possible. Like accusing you of bad language, when they have regularly used it many times in posts, themselves.
Love to hit, and say don't you hit me...check

Just because an argument is better argued does not make the debate the final say. I know from practical experience... you, I believe, do not.

Yup, any blade of grass they can grab. Like this one. I prefer "just cause you're wearing that badge, don't make you right"

It is simple though don't have your child use Ritalin... that is your choice.


This is the real chiller! This person would just love to turn little bobby into a zombie. Basically this animal is loose out there somewhere, and we're all it's prey.
If you guys get anything out of this little tete a teet ta it's that anybody who wants to just load your kid up on Ritalin without exhausting every alternate possibility first,  is a fucking monster. A real one, not one of Noori's. This one really exists!  They're more common than you think high estimates put it at 1 out of every 20 people.
This is definitely one of them, not even a regular everyday one, this one is actively in the higher stage of looking to harm people. With misinformation, manipulation , anyway possible.
I think I've pretty body slammed here. this isn't opinions, this Facts Vrs Bullshit

Bob take your exact same IP as Onun and shove it in the ass 2 feet from you

Quote from: onan on September 11, 2012, 04:00:18 AM
Well, you got me there. Diet is all you need. good luck with that.

I never said it was, but nice attempt to change the argument...very practiced Onun . You back peddle a lot, I can tell.

Now go get your fucking quote about how better shoes help broken legs and I won't start psycho analyzing and hypothesizing why some little bitch kid would feel the need to try act like he's a world renowned expert on anything.

Quote from: BobGrau on September 11, 2012, 03:52:57 AM
Optiflex, with respect, you're arguing with the wrong guy. Onan knows his shit.

We have a phrase here that describes guys like Onan "Educated beyond their intelligence"

Anybody can sit there all day long Googling and cut and pasting..finding websites that support whatever wacked out stance they take..you want a website that says eating donkey shit cures impotence..you can find it, it doesn't make it right, but you can find one.

But in this case he didn't, he actually quoted Harvard and The Mayo clinic supporting the post he attacked, but not 100 percent, so he rationalized not getting a 100 on my part meant I lost...that's an idiot...look it up..there's a picture of Gonan!


You want me fill these boards for 4 days with cut and pastes about the harmful side effects of Ritalin? I can, there's thousands! like this...

Harmful Effects of Ritalin
Sep 28, 2010 | By Aironius French
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Ritalin is a brand-name prescription drug that was brought to market by the pharmaceutical company, Novartis. The active ingredient in Ritalin is methylphenidate, which is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to treat hyperactivity, narcolepsy and attention deficit disorder, according to Drugs.com. RxList.com notes that methlphenidate is a central nervous system stimulant prescribed to millions of U.S. school-age children that carries the potential for harmful effects.
Addiction and Dependency

Ritalin is an amphetamine-like stimulant classified as a schedule II substance. Ritalin is similar in chemical structure, metabolization and clinical effect to amphetamines and cocaine. A 2001 study published in the journal "Experimental and Clinical Psychopharmacology" concluded that physiological effects of oral cocaine and methylphenidate in Ritalin were similar. Consequently, Ritalin is considered addictive and often produces effects similar to that of "speed" in some users, despite the fact that it is intended to calm children down.

Now get this Onun quoted some female from a college saying drug treatments for ADHD were non addictive, when I read that I said who would say that? So I went searching for it...he cropped the quote, it wasn't talking about Ritalin..so yeah he knows how TO LIE

In fact, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency issued a warning for all methylphenidate products, and stated Ritalin has a high potential for abuse and may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence (Reference 4). For these reasons, Ritalin has become a commonly abused street drug by both children and adults, who usually snort or inject it. Tolerance to methylphenidate can be built up over time, which means the user needs to take larger doses to achieve the same effect and might depend on methylphenidate just to function normally.
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Insomnia

Ritalin is also marketed to those who suffer from extreme day-time sleepiness and have sudden episodes of dozing off, which is called narcolepsy. Not surprisingly, when given to children for hyperactivity or attention deficit issues who do not have narcolepsy, a common harmful effect is insomnia and disrupted sleep patterns, as noted by RxList. Part of the "zombie-like" behavior of children on Ritalin is from chronic insomnia.
Nervousness

Another common harmful effect of Ritalin is feelings of nervousness. Drugs.com adds that similar feelings might also occur and be described as agitation, anxiety, irritability, depression, restlessness and even irrational aggression.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/249375-harmful-effects-of-ritalin/#ixzz269fB7XmJ

I'll try to dumb my post down to your quotation levels

USING one of your own cut and pastes!

from John E. Huxsahl, M.D.

"some studies show that certain food colorings and preservatives may increase hyperactive behavior in some children."

Harvard says...

"But several studies have renewed interest in whether certain foods and additives might affect particular symptoms in a subset of children with ADHD."


I'm thinking..maybe limiting exposure to food colorings and preservatives might help?  But that's very suspect. According to the head Janitor here!

Now go find your fucking quote about better shoes helping broken legs, why dontcha you?

You gotta love a guy who throws up supportive posts to the other sides contention , but then somehow continues arguing on some sort of " I don't feel you were 100 percent right, so that makes you 100 percent wrong..nahhhha nhaaa

What an airhead.

I'm done with you, you showed me in 2 seconds flat what you're about...now of course you work at a hospitol..

It's the old..as a NASA employee I...

Anybody, anybody at all involved in ADHD treatment has heard about the studies in diet to treat ADHD...but a janitor wouldn't.

You Google ADHD DIET you get a bunch.

ANYBODY involved in ADHD knows Ritalin is considered a stone age treatment, a very harmful treatment, an avoid at all cost treatment. It says right on the side of the fucking bottle prolonged treatment can turn your child into a psychological dependence with abnormal behavior. Yeah..give my fucking kid that, please!

Yup parents are just lining up to turn their kid into Dexter!

You proudly declare you're working at a hospitol that's writing Ritalin scripts all day long, huh? A...you're fucking liar, B you're so toked up and self confident you don't realize how stupid this sounds.

Go back to arguing about how bigfoot date raped you or something.

TAKE A FEW MORE TOKES..

LOLOLOLOLOLOL One of those every drug is perfectly ok and here i pulled a sentance out of the air to prove my point guys, huh?

Sigh i'm arguing with an idiot but here goes...lets look at what the FDA, not some stoner bitch says, but what the MOTHER FUCKIN FDA  puts on every box of Ritalin,,,

• Give cautiously to patients with history of drug dependence or alcoholism. Chronic abuse can cause marked tolerance and psychological dependence with abnormal behavior. Frank psychotic episodes may occur, especially with parenteral abuse. Supervise carefully during withdrawal from abusive use, as severe depression may occur. Withdrawal after prolonged therapeutic use may unmask symptoms of underlying disorder, possibly requiring follow-up.

http://youtu.be/CRm1yqSmsGY

Quote from: analog kid on September 10, 2012, 07:25:11 PM
Do you disagree that there's a significant difference between shwag and hydroponic grown strain? BTW, I'm by no means a heavy smoker, or a connoisseur, and only have some a few times a year, so I'm no pot activist.

The best way to describe what higher levels of THC do to somebody susceptible to a bad reaction is to compare it to Ritalin.

In most people, you give them Ritalin they're up for three days straight! But a person with hyperactivity it actually overloads they're system,  not really calming them down, but actually exhausting the hyper part of their brain, almost making them..zombie, half awake. It's the craziest use of a drug ever, its long term damages the brain and kidneys. They've discovered a better diet will help these people immensely.

Same thing here, THC normally calms people "mellows them out" but in some people it increase anxiety, and paranoia...in varying doses. This is why some people smoke for years perfectly fine and all of a sudden boom paranoia! They've hit that dosage that messes them up. The high doses seem to overload the panic reaction. So yes, a lot less people have that initial panic attack..but tons of people are experiencing the paranoid reaction...and in longer stretches. The stuff stays in your system.

I have to go to work...but remember I'm not here to condemn pot, just to stop the idea it will make lepricans fly out of your butt granting your every wish.

Ohhh yes the new age "I only smoke high quality organic weed from a very reputable dealer. I knew that one was coming 5 seconds after I hit post.

BTW I smoked pot with Jesse Ventura and Jim The Anvil in a cab once. I also took them to a bar that the group bought out for the night. I got to listen to Bobby Heenan discuss with Vince Mcmahon  his wish to go out as a good guy because as he was walking through the audience that night, some little old lady had stabbed him with a fork as he walked by...lol. True Story!

Quote from: M. Knight on September 10, 2012, 05:32:12 PM

A little objectivity goes a long way.  I think you've helped a lot of people.  Thanks.

Nah..you can't change anybodies mind. Even though the news stories about how bat shit crazy people get on Bath Salts are all over the place, 1000's of new people will try it this week. They'll do that because their friends told them it's all hoeey, and they and their friends know everything. It won't happen to them.

And then a guy will have a horrible reaction, get better and think he's going to save the world...ignoring the fact that he'd never listen to anybody before, either.

In the world of drugs I personally believe there is no bad PR. You can go into school after school, bring in Michael Jordan, Barrack Obama, Derrick Jeter and some kids will say "thanks, I'll never..." and 2 years later you're admitting them to a rehab.

I remember when this absolutely gorgeous girl was run down out jogging by a drunk driver and the whole town went ballistic. Ohh they were totally MADD! Bumper stickers, campaigns. That was 35 years ago. That was a town of about 1000 people. They did a little study about those kids in that school district at that time. We're talking 300 kids total grades 9-12. 45 DWI's! Those kids that were so hell bent against that single stupid kid, 45 of them grew up to get DWI's themselves....including the girls...brother!

It's all about people finding fault with others, and not themselves.  I can handle it. I'm impervious. YOU need to follow the rules.